I am aware that we aren't allowed to discuss printing here, so please avoid talking about it specifically here. However if you have any resources on printing scans of cards onto the erased foils please post your contact information or PM it etc. Thanks
I am referring to dipping the corner in acetone and taking the foil layer off completely to just get a blank white card. using it for tokens and I keep getting this left over material on the white card. I know I have read there are specific sets to do this with.
I know this information is already posted somewhere but I can't find the specifics on it. There are a couple sets where the holos peel flawlessly without the shiny ick stuff that most sets have. I am looking for which sets those are. Thanks
Fake magic cards are as good as fake 100€/$ bills. It's hurting the game economy, the game itself, unaware players and collectors, in short it's bad. There's a reason why counterfeiting is a criminal offense.
well, it's just a trading card. you can't really prosecute someone for something like this. magic cards can trade hands more than 1 dollar bills, so if a guy walks in wanting to sell a dual land you can't be sure he knows it's fake.
people have walked into stores with fake lotuses and walked out with 2-3 grand, that is the issue. the store either takes the loss which is an entire month's profit for these places, or passes it on to someone else.
what amazes me is they have transitioned from the standard ABU fakes which are as common as sliced bread, into 3rd and 4th edition, worldwake, etc. stuff that while it is a $250 card, gets no scrutiny.
This and Jace are some of the most commonly counterfeited newish cards out there. I would just use the HQ proxies instead of forking out the money. It's a great card but at the end of the day you aren't even attending tournaments.
It's a problem that affects almost all of us. A store near me which apparently naming means you get an infraction, sells fake cards printed from a professional printing press. Identical to the eye, their only flaw is they show more light under the light test.
At least a fifth of black lotuses on ebay are fake, and sometimes you can tell from the pictures, but other times you can't.
In the Socal region we had an outbreak of "Mark Pedin" Unlimited Timetwisters, I saw at least 30 of them but that was just in the sacremento region and when I went to frank and sons. Don't believe me? http://oi40.tinypic.com/1zxs5e9.jpg
The ink is messed up because I poured acetone on the card so it wouldn't circulate anymore. Normal water however, did nothing to it. The back of this card looks genuine, I literally see no difference between this and an authentic one.
Unlimited timetwisters are just a small piece of the pie. People in the operation passing these are probably peasants. Is there a lotus on display at your fnm? It's 70% a fake.
This discussion can only go so far without talking about the actual way these cards are made, however that is prohibited on this forum so I cannot express to you how easy these are to truly make.
Currently, I do not know of a way to tell some of these counterfeit cards as forgeries. If the Timetwister had Tedin instead of Pedin, the only thing I can say is that it looks just barely a little less settle then an authentic one. It of course fails the light test but such a test is almost never used.
Reported...? What am I supposed to call the police because a guy printed Magic the Gathering cards off his printer? Nobody cared. I don't think you understand that probably 1/3 of every tournament you attend has a fake card in it.
I've seen binders full of Black Lotuses, all fake but still sold for $20-30 as novelties. I even got a few myself because they're fun to play with.
WOTC has demonstrated they don't care if people counterfeit cards, certainly no way to catch people or do any real damage to them either.
Counterfeit cards are extremely common, usually it's just beta stuff but occasionally dual lands and unlimited. This is only the 3rd instance I've seen where modern cards were being faked.
Have you guys seen the fake modern cards going around? We had a guy show up to FNM with 2,000 copies of Angel of Serenity and was selling them for $2 each. They didn't pass the bend test, but you wouldn't of known they were fake unless you bent it. I was just wondering if these were circulating anywhere else.
In reality no two ABU cards look exactly the same, and that is part of the issue when it comes to counterfeiting them. A difference in what the fake looks like is often regarded as a normal print difference. If you have ever dealt with a lot of power or ran a store you have definitely held fake cards you didn't know were fake though.
I would just stick to buying graded ABU, even then though I've made plenty of rebacked cards that would pass grading for sure.
well, it's just a trading card. you can't really prosecute someone for something like this. magic cards can trade hands more than 1 dollar bills, so if a guy walks in wanting to sell a dual land you can't be sure he knows it's fake.
people have walked into stores with fake lotuses and walked out with 2-3 grand, that is the issue. the store either takes the loss which is an entire month's profit for these places, or passes it on to someone else.
what amazes me is they have transitioned from the standard ABU fakes which are as common as sliced bread, into 3rd and 4th edition, worldwake, etc. stuff that while it is a $250 card, gets no scrutiny.
At least a fifth of black lotuses on ebay are fake, and sometimes you can tell from the pictures, but other times you can't.
In the Socal region we had an outbreak of "Mark Pedin" Unlimited Timetwisters, I saw at least 30 of them but that was just in the sacremento region and when I went to frank and sons. Don't believe me?
http://oi40.tinypic.com/1zxs5e9.jpg
The ink is messed up because I poured acetone on the card so it wouldn't circulate anymore. Normal water however, did nothing to it. The back of this card looks genuine, I literally see no difference between this and an authentic one.
Unlimited timetwisters are just a small piece of the pie. People in the operation passing these are probably peasants. Is there a lotus on display at your fnm? It's 70% a fake.
This discussion can only go so far without talking about the actual way these cards are made, however that is prohibited on this forum so I cannot express to you how easy these are to truly make.
Currently, I do not know of a way to tell some of these counterfeit cards as forgeries. If the Timetwister had Tedin instead of Pedin, the only thing I can say is that it looks just barely a little less settle then an authentic one. It of course fails the light test but such a test is almost never used.
I was there, people evidently didn't notice half my deck was fake.
Reported...? What am I supposed to call the police because a guy printed Magic the Gathering cards off his printer? Nobody cared. I don't think you understand that probably 1/3 of every tournament you attend has a fake card in it.
I've seen binders full of Black Lotuses, all fake but still sold for $20-30 as novelties. I even got a few myself because they're fun to play with.
WOTC has demonstrated they don't care if people counterfeit cards, certainly no way to catch people or do any real damage to them either.
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I would just stick to buying graded ABU, even then though I've made plenty of rebacked cards that would pass grading for sure.