My first FTV i got 4th place with this deck...does anyone have any thoughts on elspeth?? THE REASON..is because i got her in one of the booster packs i got as a prize for the 4th place... Its an interesting choice, but idk tbh if its worth it...any thoughts???
I'll see if I need to fit in the unflinching courage, but to me it seems the elves accelerate enough so you don't need a lot of life gain. Against what would you side the paladin?
No need to accelarate, your curve is mostly 2 droppers then 3 droppers, its better to run just enough mana, and have no mana dorks, no need for them on this build. Get exp ones or dryad militants instead for early damage, also fiendslayer paladin is AWESOME vs black and red, theres a lot of decks out there that run that build...it makes it so hard for them to get rid of it, and u gain life...awesome card.
Personally, this build has gotten me great results. First time at a FTV tournament i got 4th place. You need some of the cards i run in my sideboard to win important matches. Just my 2 cents, deck runs smoothly vs all decks with the right SB movements.
Just a quick update of last weeks FNM, i took 4th PLACE on FTV (From the Vault)
1st match - Me VS GW AGGRO (mirror match) lost 0-2
2nd match - Me VS Red Devotion 1-1-1 Draw (fiendslayer SB :thumbsup:)
3rd match - Me VS Mono Green (god's willing top decking!) 2-0 win
4th match - Me VS RDW 2-0 win
Top 8
-Me VS Blue Devotion (Mistcutter Hydra did the trick) 2-0
Top 4
-Me vs RW dega? deck.. idk Spark trooper deck... lost 0-2
If you're considering Wasteland Viper, I would add Polukranos as well. The synergy there is amazing .
I also think the Bow of Nylea would fit here . You have a lot of small quick creatures. Make your opponent hesitant to block if they land something bigger, allowing you to keep board presence.
I considered the option of running wasteland viper but it just wasnt very efficient, so i decided not to run it. Polukranos is amazing dont get me wrong, but i decided to run advent of the wurm instead to spead up the game. I ran Nylea in the past in this deck, for me to activate it, i would have to switch call of the conclave for kalonian tusker. Not a bad move, i just didnt find it very efficient and decided to run ajani caller of the pride instead for its -3 ability dealing lots of damage...sometimes 10 total with advent in the air, or any creature with unflinching courage. Thanks for input!
*****Updated List***** Got rid of 4 Elvish Mystic as they werent really helping, and added 4 Experiment One due to the curve, it evolves quick and deals quick damage early game. Great change, thanks to suggestions.
Why no Experiment One? Your entire deck is pretty much above curve (higher power/toughness than cmc). He will evolve pretty much each turn if you land one on turn 1. With 23 land and with Advent at the top of your curve at 4 cmc, you really don't need Elvish Mystic (I know the turn two Smiter is awesome, but I think Ex. One is better).
Just my $0.02.
Yes i have deeply considered experiment one as it would evolve quick if dropped early. The only reason i chose elvish mystic was the ease of a turn 2 smiter, or flash in opponents turn 2 a boon satyr. and possibly a turn 3 advent of the wurm just to speed up the deck for the bigger stuff..experiment one would definitely speed up the deck as well with early damage, it really is more about how do you want the deck to act. Both viable options, still considering it over elvish. Thanks for the input!
Wasteland viper cannot combo with a green blocker to kill blood baron.
Right now, your two answers are boon satyr and advent of the wurm.
Post sideboard, just board in celestial flare, making them just block with baron and proceed to flare it.
I think you meant viper cant combo with a white blocker to kill baron, which is true and is the reason i decided not to go with it anymore, celestial flare is a good answer, not sure if i should SB 1 more aside from my green blockers.
Definitely SB at least 3, if not 4 mistcutters. Soldier of the Pantheon is amazing too as he can block blood baron, reckoner, etc. Also up your Ajani to 2, his -3 lets you get in for crazy damage. Lastly, I know he's a bit tougher on the mana but kalonian tusker would probably be a better replacement for call of the conclave as he'll survive getting bounced by rift or away.
I have considered soldier, i still dont see a use for dryad militant as many do, maybe because of the easy of mana and dropping it, for baron i am currently working on an answer, i have thought of wasteland viperand use a green blocker to kill it. Also satyr could come in and kill it. It is one of the biggest threats for this deck, def need a SB answer for it. Tusker is cool i have ordered some, gonna play test with it vs conclave. We will see. Ya trying to fit another ajani in the deck, not sure what to take out =/
Seems like a Abundant amount of 2 drops.....I would consider dropping the Tuskers for stronger creatures later in the curve or increasing other cards such as Selesnya charm. Also might want to consider upping your lands to atleast 22, I know you have a low curve but you want to make sure your dropping your 4th land on turn 4 for Advent. So even then it wouldnt be a bad idea to go up to 24 lands
GW has a really hard time against Mono Blue, Maybe have some sideboards of Skylasher & Mistcutter Hydra
Thanks for the input! , I have updated the deck list, with a couple changes.
I can't find Domri Rade anywhere here, noone has to trade or sell, and none of the stores have them. I could go via the online method, but today is Thursday and the cards is on the weekend.
Well here is the thing, to make it competitive, you have to run voice of resurgence, boros reckoner and domri. They all serve a very important role in NAYA, if it is only a deck to have fun with, not expecting it to win an FNM then sure enough that will work. 1 Polukranos, 3 or 4 Advent of the Wurm, last breath is useless in main, you got bigger creatures on early game...if you want to go cheap, use maybe centaur healers or call of the conclave, drop boon stayrs, or run less...Might not need lightning strike, if you can get a hold of domri go for it. Even Xenangos could work, its cheaper. If you cant get your hands on some voices try scavenging ooze. All in all i recommend 3 call of the conclave on ur empty slot., could keep boon satyr, add 4 centaur healers instead of 2 last breath and 2 lightning strikes. Youll need the creatures. Drop a boon satyr and the 2 mortars on main, and add 3 advent of the wurm if u can get them. My thoughts...hope it helps.
Updated list ^^ good ideas "NightyNightSpector" madcap skills would be nice, but i am choosing unflinching courage over it for now., will test play with madcap skills. Not a fan of clan defiance on this deck, perhaps 1sb. Im still trying to get scavenging ooze in the deck somwhere.
Also correct me if I'm wrong but Aren't you short 4 slots in your mainboard?
If so, what of you slipped in the 2 mizzium mortars? And also maybe MB your boros charm? Or you COULD MB 2 madcap skills? And then replace those in the sideboard with 2 clan defiance and then in the sideboard madcap or the boros charm, whichever you dont use?
4 Experiment One
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Boon Satyr
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Enchantments
3 Unflinching Courage
Sorcery
3 Call of the Conclave
4 Advent of the Wurm
2 Rootborn Defenses
3 Selesnya Charm
Land
4 Temple Garden
4 Selesnya Guildgate
7 Forest
7 Plains
1 Rogue's Passage
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Celestial Flare
2 Pithing Needle
2 Brave the Elements
1 Rootborn Defenses
3 Fiendslayer Paladin
3 Mistcutter Hydra
My first FTV i got 4th place with this deck...does anyone have any thoughts on elspeth?? THE REASON..is because i got her in one of the booster packs i got as a prize for the 4th place... Its an interesting choice, but idk tbh if its worth it...any thoughts???
No need to accelarate, your curve is mostly 2 droppers then 3 droppers, its better to run just enough mana, and have no mana dorks, no need for them on this build. Get exp ones or dryad militants instead for early damage, also fiendslayer paladin is AWESOME vs black and red, theres a lot of decks out there that run that build...it makes it so hard for them to get rid of it, and u gain life...awesome card.
4 Experiment One
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Boon Satyr
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Enchantments
3 Unflinching Courage
Sorcery
3 Call of the Conclave
4 Advent of the Wurm
2 Rootborn Defenses
3 Selesnya Charm
Land
4 Temple Garden
3 Selesnya Guildgate
8 Forest
7 Plains
1 Rogue's Passage
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Celestial Flare
2 Centaur Healer
1 Rootborn Defenses
2 Gods Willing
3 Fiendslayer Paladin
3 Mistcutter Hydra
Personally, this build has gotten me great results. First time at a FTV tournament i got 4th place. You need some of the cards i run in my sideboard to win important matches. Just my 2 cents, deck runs smoothly vs all decks with the right SB movements.
4 Experiment One
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Boon Satyr
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Enchantments
3 Unflinching Courage
Sorcery
3 Call of the Conclave
4 Advent of the Wurm
2 Rootborn Defenses
3 Selesnya Charm
Land
4 Temple Garden
4 Selesnya Guildgate
7 Forest
7 Plains
1 Rogue's Passage
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Celestial Flare
2 Pithing Needle
2 Gods Willing
1 Rootborn Defenses
3 Fiendslayer Paladin
3 Mistcutter Hydra
Just a quick update of last weeks FNM, i took 4th PLACE on FTV (From the Vault)
1st match - Me VS GW AGGRO (mirror match) lost 0-2
2nd match - Me VS Red Devotion 1-1-1 Draw (fiendslayer SB :thumbsup:)
3rd match - Me VS Mono Green (god's willing top decking!) 2-0 win
4th match - Me VS RDW 2-0 win
Top 8
-Me VS Blue Devotion (Mistcutter Hydra did the trick) 2-0
Top 4
-Me vs RW dega? deck.. idk Spark trooper deck... lost 0-2
Got 4th place, got 9 booster packs, pulled 1 Elspeth.
Overall, fun FTV, some good competition, good practice, GW aggro still has it!
BTW, all this considering i didnt get my experiment ones on time, so i used 1 Dryad Militant
and 3 Elvish Mystic
I considered the option of running wasteland viper but it just wasnt very efficient, so i decided not to run it. Polukranos is amazing dont get me wrong, but i decided to run advent of the wurm instead to spead up the game. I ran Nylea in the past in this deck, for me to activate it, i would have to switch call of the conclave for kalonian tusker. Not a bad move, i just didnt find it very efficient and decided to run ajani caller of the pride instead for its -3 ability dealing lots of damage...sometimes 10 total with advent in the air, or any creature with unflinching courage. Thanks for input!
Yes i have deeply considered experiment one as it would evolve quick if dropped early. The only reason i chose elvish mystic was the ease of a turn 2 smiter, or flash in opponents turn 2 a boon satyr. and possibly a turn 3 advent of the wurm just to speed up the deck for the bigger stuff..experiment one would definitely speed up the deck as well with early damage, it really is more about how do you want the deck to act. Both viable options, still considering it over elvish. Thanks for the input!
I think you meant viper cant combo with a white blocker to kill baron, which is true and is the reason i decided not to go with it anymore, celestial flare is a good answer, not sure if i should SB 1 more aside from my green blockers.
I have considered soldier, i still dont see a use for dryad militant as many do, maybe because of the easy of mana and dropping it, for baron i am currently working on an answer, i have thought of wasteland viperand use a green blocker to kill it. Also satyr could come in and kill it. It is one of the biggest threats for this deck, def need a SB answer for it. Tusker is cool i have ordered some, gonna play test with it vs conclave. We will see. Ya trying to fit another ajani in the deck, not sure what to take out =/
Thanks for the input! , I have updated the deck list, with a couple changes.
4 Experiment One
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Boon Satyr
Planeswalker
2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Enchantments
3 Unflinching Courage
Sorcery
3 Call of the Conclave
4 Advent of the Wurm
2 Rootborn Defenses
3 Selesnya Charm
Land
4 Temple Garden
4 Selesnya Guildgate
7 Forest
7 Plains
1 Rogue's Passage
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Celestial Flare
2 Pithing Needle
2 Brave the Elements
1 Rootborn Defenses
3 Fiendslayer Paladin
3 Mistcutter Hydra
Well here is the thing, to make it competitive, you have to run voice of resurgence, boros reckoner and domri. They all serve a very important role in NAYA, if it is only a deck to have fun with, not expecting it to win an FNM then sure enough that will work. 1 Polukranos, 3 or 4 Advent of the Wurm, last breath is useless in main, you got bigger creatures on early game...if you want to go cheap, use maybe centaur healers or call of the conclave, drop boon stayrs, or run less...Might not need lightning strike, if you can get a hold of domri go for it. Even Xenangos could work, its cheaper. If you cant get your hands on some voices try scavenging ooze. All in all i recommend 3 call of the conclave on ur empty slot., could keep boon satyr, add 4 centaur healers instead of 2 last breath and 2 lightning strikes. Youll need the creatures. Drop a boon satyr and the 2 mortars on main, and add 3 advent of the wurm if u can get them. My thoughts...hope it helps.
3 Ghor-Clan Rampager
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Boros Reckoner
3 Stormbreath Dragon
3 Advent of the Wurm
2 Selesny Charm
3 Domri Rade
2 Mistcutter Hydra
2 Chained to the Rocks
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Boros Charm
3 Unflinching Courage
1 Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
4 Stomping Ground
4 Temple Garden
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Temple of Abandon
2 Plains
2 Temple of Triumph
2 Forest
2 Mountain