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    posted a message on Blue White Deck - Noob needs help :)
    Quote from Narloxon »
    Ok based on your review i modified the deck and made some changes. Especially to get out creatures earlier, have more live on turn 4 and changed some weaker cards for stronger ones (Like Pull from Tomorrow for Open into Wonder):

    ...
    - I also added 4 x Renewed Faith because i think this card is good in every stage of the game (Not with an huge impact but versatile): Whats your opinion about this?

    - Due to this change i lost some control imho but i will follow hoser2s advice and try to get some creatures out earlier.
    - Also added 3x Vizier of Many Faces. Im exited about the anointed Procession combo with the embalmed Vizier of Many Faces Smile

    - What do you think about 2xOketra the True instead of 2x Avian wind guide?


    OT: Can you recommend some books (preferably ebooks) or online content about general strategy?


    Edit: Please find attached the mana curve of the deck


    The mana base seems much better for casting Temmet on turn 2 (>80 chance), but worse for your chance of casting WW cards. UU should also be unreliable. I use the tables (skipping past the math) in this article to figure out my mana requirements. The BFZ or SOI duals will obviously help, but if you don't want to invest in cards that will rotate, then I recommend Evolving Wilds. Meandering River would be better against Thalia. On the other hand, if you are building up a collection for modern, lands are among the most versatile choices.

    I am not a fan of Renewed Faith in this deck as it lacks synergy and the impact of limited pure lifegain tends to be dwarfed by the repeatable damage of creatures.

    Thanks for bringing the deck here. Decktags are super-easy and technically required (described here). xaltair did most of the work for you above. You can just quote his post in an alternate browser tab, cut, paste and edit. Separating land, spells and creatures will help us help you.

    Resources: Reid Duke did a fantastic series called Level One (start here, scroll down to the search section, set the dates to include 2014-2015, choose filter by author and by "Reid Duke", then search ) on the mothership. Locally, I found this helpful.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on BG/x Constrictor
    Quote from SC1987 »
    But then aren't you worried about Censor? I know U/R tends to board out Negates against Constrictor decks but they don't board out Censor, which makes tapping out for Nissa on Turn 3 risky. Nonetheless I think I'll replace a Mountain with a Forest and give that a try.

    Censor? It's complicated. Maybe they are not playing U at all. Maybe I played my worst 2 drop into it and they didn't bite (people don't save their Censors, in my experience). Maybe I have two Nissas and I don't mind losing one to clear the coast. Playing against control is like playing against Marvel. Sometimes they just have it, but I just need to make them have it and make the "it" as unlikely as possible.

    Quote from SC1987 »
    Speaking of aggro, what has your match up against Zombies been like? I would imagine we're pretty good against Zombies since both decks look to build board presence but our creatures will generally be bigger. Is that what what's been happening with you?
    In my meta, Zombies hardly exists. In nine post-Marvel sanctioned matches, I haven't seen it. I did lose a test match against it, but it was close. It doesn't make sense to target it heavily in my sideboard. After the Pro Tour, people played it but Flamecaller was so good against it that they quit. I don't think they particularly enjoyed the play pattern, because I don't see them picking it up again. Late in a format like this, people tend to shift to control, but maybe not your meta.

    I am just an avid hobbyist. I make suggestions for you to consider and experiment with. There are grinders who know things and can tell you things. That is not me. I do fine against the grinders in my meta because the best of them are all down at Card Kingdom or Mox Boarding House and I run unconventional twists. But when I play a real grinder, they have the game figured out on turn two and I am still figuring it out as I play. The point is that what I have to say is worth considering and maybe experimented with, but not taken as gospel.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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    posted a message on BG/x Constrictor
    Quote from SC1987 »
    Thanks hoser2. Some follow-up questions:

    Good tip on the Green sources, but what would recommend cutting for two more green sources? I'm thinking of cutting 1 Mountain for another forest and the Smoldering Marsh for another Hissing Quagmire. Is that what would you recommend? I also don't want the deck to slow down too much and I probably wouldn't mind not being able to cast Nissa on Turn 3 if it means I can cast other stuff. In my playing, I've actually chosen to wait off on Nissa until I have more creatures out and then casting her later and immediately -2 her. Of course I could just be playing it wrong then but let me know if I am.

    Does Tracker have to be 4x or is 3x okay? I've found Tracker to be clunky at times since it's treated as a 4-drop than a 3-drop.

    And what is your opinion between Heart of Kiran and Bone Picker? Which do you think is the better choice here? Or would you take out something else entirely?

    I like Ob Nixilis too but would you play that over Distended Mindbender? Ob Can be easily countered whereas Distended Mindbender will always wreck their hand unless they Disallow the trigger AND counter the creature.
    It's your deck, and only you know the best play patterns, but faced with a near empty board, I like playing Nissa on turn 3. It seems to me that you can cut down to 2 Swamps and 1 Mountain. Hissing Quagmire, Evolving Wilds, Traverse, Attune could all help.

    I like Distended Mindbender for the control matchup, you could just pick the three worst cards in the sideboard to put in the remaining Trackers and Ob Nix. Worst card could be Radiant Flames if you don't see many aggressive decks that it will hose or that you can win without it.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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    posted a message on Blue White Deck - Noob needs help :)
    Quote from Narloxon »
    Thanks for your input!

    You're welcome!
    Quote from Narloxon »
    Quote from hoser2 »

    • With only 11 U sources, Temmet and Censor will often not be castable on turn 2. Open into Wonder may also have casting issues.
    • I don't think Cartouche of Knowledge is very impactful, and removal in response blows it out hard.
    • Your curve may be too high
    I hope this helps!


    There are not many creature enchantments in amonkhet at the moment and i also have so many white cards in my deck. Thats why i wanted to put Cartouche of Knowledge in the deck. Do you think cartouche of solidarity is better in this case? Or maybe another card?
    Is there some special value to creature enchantments? In blue cards? It doesn't look like you are interested in Delirium. I was imagining that you wanted to beat people's face in with tokens. Enchantments seem peripheral to the goal. If you want to win, you need to play cards that pull their weight. Creature enchantments rarely make the cut in good constructed decks. This one doesn't seem that great, as removal wrecks it hard and it's unplayable unless you have a creature on board. You have Anointed Procession and Oketra's Monument in your deck. That's 6 cards that probably don't do anything the turn you cast them. You can't afford cards that don't synergize with either or both or otherwise pull their weight.

    Quote from Narloxon »
    What do you mean with "curve is too high"? Do you recommend to put more 2 and 3 mana creatures in the deck?
    ...
    I said "may be", not "is." 2 and 3 mana plays, not necessarily creatures. If you don't have a 2 or 3 mana play and play Anointed Procession on turn 4, chump-blocking with a Sacred Cat may not be enough to keep you alive. It looked like you have a lot of things to do on turn 5, but you need to get there with a reasonable life total and board state or you'll just be chump-blocking with tokens, I think.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on BG/x Constrictor
    I don't always beat UR Control, but I don't always lose either. If you want to improve the matchup, I would recommend 4 Tireless Tracker in the 75 and at least one Lifecrafter's Bestiary in the sideboard. I've tried Serpopard a little, but it has just died. Bristling Hydra is fun if you can get it down, particularly in conjunction with Rhonas, but that's not really what you are doing. I bring in Gonti and Ob Nixilis in the matchup.

    For a 90% chance of Nissa on Turn 3, you want 19 G sources, and I count only 17, so that might be a concern.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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    posted a message on Blue White Deck - Noob needs help :)
    Welcome! That is an interesting and creative deck concept. There are a few mechanical issues that I fear may trip you up.
    • With only 11 U sources, Temmet and Censor will often not be castable on turn 2. Open into Wonder may also have casting issues.
    • I don't think Cartouche of Knowledge is very impactful, and removal in response blows it out hard.
    • Your curve may be too high
    I hope this helps!
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on WG aggro w/humans subtheme...needs help!
    Nice to see another Humans player. We have a thread in Established that I'd like to invite you to contribute to. According to this, you would want more W sources for a turn 3 Always Watching or a turn 4 Gisela. Canopy Vista rotates soon, but might be worth considering. Otherwise you could look at some of lajube's posts, as they have run GW Humans extensively.

    If you wanted to go more Human, you could go back to the Gossipmongers in place of the Prowlers and try Heron's Grace Champion in place of the Giselas. Heron's Grace Champion is really fun to play with and can give some real blowouts.

    Selfless Spirit may deserve consideration for the sideboard.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on Humans
    @lajube - I like it! Either way.

    Meanwhile I am past the competitive part of my season, so it is time to get back to my favorite Naya Humans. I need to make some updates, of course. How could I not run Samut? So many keywords!

    Spikes, look no further. FNM fun fans, feast your eyes and favor me with feedback.
    Posted in: Established (Standard)
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    posted a message on Advice for aggro deck
    Quote from bearwolf6 »
    Again thank you so much. Taking notes and keeping everything in mind. I just appreciate finding someone to give me advice.
    You're welcome!

    I remembered another Madness enabler in Tormenting Voice.

    I don't want to overwhelm you, but you may want to consider this.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on Advice for aggro deck
    That's a lot! I want to help so much, but this is your journey.

    Madness: I love having more cards, so I have trouble with this concept, but I'll do my best. If the opponent is at 0, who cares how many more cards they have in hand. Certainly it seems unfair when my opponent wipes out two of my creatures with Lightning Axe and Fiery Temper, but having to discard a good card to play Lightning Axe is a two for one against myself and seems bad. A madness payoff like Fiery Temper for one mana is a good deal, but without a madness enabler at three mana, not so much. If you see 14 cards in a game, can you get a good combination of madness payoffs and enablers? At 4 of each in your current deck, I don't see it. I want to just list some more enablers and payoffs so you can see whether the payoffs seem worthwhile to you.
    Enablers: Bloodrage Brawler, Key to the City, Bomat Courier, Lightning Axe, Hazoret the Fervent, Battlefield Scavenger
    Payoffs: Honored Hydra, Stromkirk Occultist, Hazoret the Fervent

    Nostalgia aside, I don't really get Noose Constrictor. Losing cards to make it do what Voltaic Brawler does naturally doesn't make sense to me. In your shoes I would go with GR Energy aggro and work with the people in this budget thread to exchange ideas. I would make a point of going to FNM today and next week to try to get promo Aether Hubs.

    On value: trading old cards in to a shop to get new cards is a losing game. The economics of a shop is that they can only give you half what a card is worth. You get much better value putting together a trade box or a trade binder and trading cards with other players. I love buying sealed product and cracking packs, but it is a money losing lottery. Buying the singles you need from places like tcgplayer.com is a much more efficient way to get exactly the cards you need.

    I do like Chandra, Rhonas and Glorybringer, but you would need more 4 power creatures and better fixing to make them work consistently. A shell including the following is where I would maybe work toward.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on Advice for aggro deck
    Advice, huh. I am not very experienced with this style of deck, so I'll give you what I have, but be aware that there are people who can give you better advice. I have lost games to Ahn-Crop Crasher, Insult//Injury and Glorybringer recently, so I like them. You don't seem to be skimping on your land count, which is common with less experienced players

    My first question concerns budget. Obviously Chandra is a valuable card and Rhonas likewise, but are you generally looking for the best options independent of price? Or are you looking to keep costs down for the deck? If the latter, then you might want to post in the Budget section. Similarly, do you want to avoid cards that will be rotating this fall?

    Per this article (which I use to determine my mana requirements), you need 18 R sources to have a 90% chance to cast Chandra on turn 4 and 16 R sources to cast Glorybringer on turn 5, so you probably want more R sources.

    I see some Madness cards (Fiery Temper and Noose Constrictor), but not really that many. Likewise, I see some exert cards. I see Rhonas without many 4 power creatures that would let him attack and block. There is more support for madness in RB, but I did see someone discarding Honored Hydra to play Bloodrage Brawler on turn 2, then embalming the Hydra on Turn 4. Your deck seems a bit scattered thematically, which can lead to less consistency than desired.

    If you let us know your budget, willingness to buy cards that will rotate and preferred theme, I will try to give some more specific help.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Standard)
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    posted a message on RGx Energy Aggro
    I took the midrange version below to a ~14 person event, going 3-1. I beat Energy Snek, New Perspectives and UW Control while losing to UR control in the second round. The deck was strong, and the loss may have been due to bad sideboarding or play. Big Boat won me a game single-handedly from the side. Drawing Hazoret off an opponent's Memory is really bad. Tracker was great and Rhonas was good. For this meta, I want another Negate in the sideboard.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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    posted a message on [[Official]] The "I Need Help Deciding What To Play!" Thread.
    I'm not sure who you are asking. I personally love creatures with lots of text, playing to the board and synergy, so I love playing Snek and multi-color Humans. When I find myself playing a control deck, I end up rooting for the opponent to succeed.

    The latest online results tell me that you can win with a lot of decks: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/competitive-standard-league-2017-06-20#paper

    This means you can play something that fits your preferences to some extent and still get great results. If you like the reactive game, I would go for something like that first 4-color "Mardu" list, with Spell Queller and Metallic Rebuke. If you want to play to the board, Sneks, Delirium or Temur energy seem fine.
    Posted in: Standard (Type 2)
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    posted a message on BG/x Constrictor
    Significantly updated primer. Feedback appreciated!

    Edit: Shawn McLaren runs an Energy Snek deck through it's paces online here.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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    posted a message on BG/x Constrictor
    I've been experimenting with Rhonas. I think the interaction with Heart of Kiran is interesting, although I haven't found it to be exploitable yet. Bristling Hydra is fringe-playable in energy builds and synergizes nicely. The trample Rhonas gives can be useful for the supersized Longtusk Cubs that can otherwise just be chumped. Basically, even though Delirious Grim Flayer seems like a perfect fit, Rhonas may synergize more generally in energy decks. In 5-0 MTGO league decks, Rhonas has only seen play in some energy Sneks, to my observation.

    I will add Rhonas and Noxious to the OP, although more a Reader's Digest version.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
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