Well Mods, There are a ton of very useful suggestions posted in this thread.
It seems like a lot of people share the same frustration of Market Streets location on the forum.
The other great point is that non members or simply people who are not signed in, can't even see that Market Street exist.
Is there a way to bring these great suggestions to the appropriate people?
Thanks for all the great replies!
Kevin
It seems to me over the last month the Market Street application is being used less and less.
My question is, is the market just calming down where there are less things to post about, or is there another outlet people are using to post opinions and speculation?
Tezzeret, the Seeker Duel deck version average price just keeps going up on TCGPlayer. It's already at 11$ average. Shards version is also at 9$. Is some deck playing this either in Legacy or Modern, that I'm completely unaware. Duel deck Tezzerets were below 1 € each here in Europe, I've even received some cards using german dd-foils as protective crap cards just a year back, and even now english copies start from 2 €.
This is pretty huge gap in values across the pond, so if anybody can explain, I'm all ears.
I think the reason is vintage is becoming more popular.
I did however play against a rogue Tezzeret, the Seeker "Bomberman" deck in legacy that was ported from vintage just last week.
Tez is crazy bonkers in vintage, I agree this would be the main reason for any price increase.
I am currently two cards short for my S&S deck. I am missing Intuition, and Misdirection. At this point I have 2 copies of Pyroclasm in place for them. Is there a better budget minded alternative I should look into?
Thanks for any suggestions, Kevin
Figure I may as well move my report over to the new thread.
This is my mini tournamant report from playing Friday at the MVP 1K event in Lancaster PA. There were 19 players.
Here is the list I played.
X4 Wireewood Symbiote
X3 Heritage Druid
X4 Deathrite Shaman
X4 Elvish Visionary
X4 Quirion Ranger
X4 Nettle Sentinel
X2 Craterhoof Behemoth
X1 Birchlore Ranger
X1 Llanowar Elves
X4 Glimpse of Nature
X4 Green Sun's Zenith
X4 Natural Order
X1 Crop Rotation
X4 Verdant Catacombs
X3 Mysty Rainforest
X2 Wooded Foothills
X2 Gaea's Cradle
X1 Overgrown Tomb
X1 Bayou
X2 Dryad Arbor
X5 Forest
Game 1 against RUG Delver, win 2/3
Meekstone single handidly won me the final two games. Its so good if you can get it to stick.
Game 2 against Jund, loose 0/2
Game one, I drew 6 lands in a row, and just did nothing, game two he devistated my board and hand. It was a sad game for the little green guys.
Game 3 against Landstill, win 2/3
Game three he had Jace at 12 counters and I was dead next turn. I came back in the craziest way! Hard casted Craterhoof met a FOW, then I followed it up with a Natural Order into my 2nd Craterhoof to win with just enough damage to get it done!
Game 4 against GWU delver/Stoneforge/TNN/exalted., I'm sure there is a proper name for the deck.. win 2/0
Playing 4 natural Order's won me this game with no question. At one point I cast 3 Natural Order's in two turns. The final one got me Hoof for the win!
Game 1 of top 8 against RWU Delver, win 2/3
Game one I had Progenitis turn 3 and there is just no answer to it.
Game two, just sad face on my side of the board.
Game 3 my opponent made two mistakes in a row with countering poorly, then not using his Grim Lavamancer to take out my Drad Arbor. This gave me the opening for turn 4 Progenitus and a fast scooping of the cards on my opponents side.
At this point it was 12:30am, and I was ready for bed! Luckily for me, the rest of the guys felt the same and we decided to split the winnings. I walked away with a Force of Will, and a Misty Rainforest.
A few things I learned from the matches.
4 Natural Orders will be staying main deck from now on! Its just so good.
Quirion Ranger with Deathrite Shaman almost feel like cheating!
Meekstone against Delver decks is crazy!
The biggest thing though is never fold early! This deck is so resiliant againt board disruption its sick! There were two diffrent games that I was sure I was going to loose and came back in both. One against an active Jitte and the other against a Jace at 12 counters.
This is my mini tournamant report from playing Friday at the MVP 1K event in Lancaster PA. There were 19 players.
Here is the list I played.
X4 Wireewood Symbiote
X3 Heritage Druid
X4 Deathrite Shaman
X4 Elvish Visionary
X4 Quirion Ranger
X4 Nettle Sentinel
X2 Craterhoof Behemoth
X1 Birchlore Ranger
X1 Llanowar Elves
X4 Glimpse of Nature
X4 Green Sun's Zenith
X4 Natural Order
X1 Crop Rotation
X4 Verdant Catacombs
X3 Mysty Rainforest
X2 Wooded Foothills
X2 Gaea's Cradle
X1 Overgrown Tomb
X1 Bayou
X2 Dryad Arbor
X5 Forest
Game 1 against RUG Delver, win 2/3
Meekstone single handidly won me the final two games. Its so good if you can get it to stick.
Game 2 against Jund, loose 0/2
Game one, I drew 6 lands in a row, and just did nothing, game two he devistated my board and hand. It was a sad game for the little green guys.
Game 3 against Landstill, win 2/3
Game three he had Jace at 12 counters and I was dead next turn. I came back in the craziest way! Hard casted Craterhoof met a FOW, then I followed it up with a Natural Order into my 2nd Craterhoof to win with just enough damage to get it done!
Game 4 against GWU delver/Stoneforge/TNN/exalted., I'm sure there is a proper name for the deck.. win 2/0
Playing 4 natural Order's won me this game with no question. At one point I cast 3 Natural Order's in two turns. The final one got me Hoof for the win!
Game 1 of top 8 against RWU Delver, win 2/3
Game one I had Progenitis turn 3 and there is just no answer to it.
Game two, just sad face on my side of the board.
Game 3 my opponent made two mistakes in a row with countering poorly, then not using his Grim Lavamancer to take out my Drad Arbor. This gave me the opening for turn 4 Progenitus and a fast scooping of the cards on my opponents side.
At this point it was 12:30am, and I was ready for bed! Luckily for me, the rest of the guys felt the same and we decided to split the winnings. I walked away with a Force of Will, and a Misty Rainforest.
A few things I learned from the matches.
4 Natural Orders will be staying main deck from now on! Its just so good.
Quirion Ranger with Deathrite Shaman almost feel like cheating!
Meekstone against Delver decks is crazy!
The biggest thing though is never fold early! This deck is so resiliant againt board disruption its sick! There were two diffrent games that I was sure I was going to loose and came back in both. One against an active Jitte and the other against a Jace at 12 counters.
Starting to sound like you got crazy lucky! If your looking to resell for a 10% premium, let me know!
LOL...
Good luck, always nice to see that there are great bargains out there if your willing to gamble.
Kevin
I guess it really depends where you live if there is an active Vintage community or not. Here in the northeast, PA, NY area its alive and kicking. We have monthly tournaments that draw 20 to 30 people.
I also feel Vintage is one of the more affordable formats you can play. Most tournaments allow 10 proxies, and most Vintage cards do not see a lot of play in other formats making them less desirable. Can you imagine how much Yawgmoths Will would cost if you could play it in Legacy?
Proxy up a deck, find a testing partner and have fun!
Kevin
Thanks!
It seems like a lot of people share the same frustration of Market Streets location on the forum.
The other great point is that non members or simply people who are not signed in, can't even see that Market Street exist.
Is there a way to bring these great suggestions to the appropriate people?
Thanks for all the great replies!
Kevin
My question is, is the market just calming down where there are less things to post about, or is there another outlet people are using to post opinions and speculation?
Tez is crazy bonkers in vintage, I agree this would be the main reason for any price increase.
Thanks for any suggestions, Kevin
This is my mini tournamant report from playing Friday at the MVP 1K event in Lancaster PA. There were 19 players.
Here is the list I played.
X4 Wireewood Symbiote
X3 Heritage Druid
X4 Deathrite Shaman
X4 Elvish Visionary
X4 Quirion Ranger
X4 Nettle Sentinel
X2 Craterhoof Behemoth
X1 Birchlore Ranger
X1 Llanowar Elves
X4 Glimpse of Nature
X4 Green Sun's Zenith
X4 Natural Order
X1 Crop Rotation
X4 Verdant Catacombs
X3 Mysty Rainforest
X2 Wooded Foothills
X2 Gaea's Cradle
X1 Overgrown Tomb
X1 Bayou
X2 Dryad Arbor
X5 Forest
Side board
X2 Meekstone
X1 Duress
X1 Thoughtseize
X3 Cabal Theropy
X1 Scavenging Ooze
X3 Abrupt Decay
X1 Progenitus
X1 Ruric Thar
X1 Veridan Shaman
X1 Pithing Needle
Game 1 against RUG Delver, win 2/3
Meekstone single handidly won me the final two games. Its so good if you can get it to stick.
Game 2 against Jund, loose 0/2
Game one, I drew 6 lands in a row, and just did nothing, game two he devistated my board and hand. It was a sad game for the little green guys.
Game 3 against Landstill, win 2/3
Game three he had Jace at 12 counters and I was dead next turn. I came back in the craziest way! Hard casted Craterhoof met a FOW, then I followed it up with a Natural Order into my 2nd Craterhoof to win with just enough damage to get it done!
Game 4 against GWU delver/Stoneforge/TNN/exalted., I'm sure there is a proper name for the deck.. win 2/0
Playing 4 natural Order's won me this game with no question. At one point I cast 3 Natural Order's in two turns. The final one got me Hoof for the win!
Game 1 of top 8 against RWU Delver, win 2/3
Game one I had Progenitis turn 3 and there is just no answer to it.
Game two, just sad face on my side of the board.
Game 3 my opponent made two mistakes in a row with countering poorly, then not using his Grim Lavamancer to take out my Drad Arbor. This gave me the opening for turn 4 Progenitus and a fast scooping of the cards on my opponents side.
At this point it was 12:30am, and I was ready for bed! Luckily for me, the rest of the guys felt the same and we decided to split the winnings. I walked away with a Force of Will, and a Misty Rainforest.
A few things I learned from the matches.
4 Natural Orders will be staying main deck from now on! Its just so good.
Quirion Ranger with Deathrite Shaman almost feel like cheating!
Meekstone against Delver decks is crazy!
The biggest thing though is never fold early! This deck is so resiliant againt board disruption its sick! There were two diffrent games that I was sure I was going to loose and came back in both. One against an active Jitte and the other against a Jace at 12 counters.
Kevin
Here is the list I played.
X4 Wireewood Symbiote
X3 Heritage Druid
X4 Deathrite Shaman
X4 Elvish Visionary
X4 Quirion Ranger
X4 Nettle Sentinel
X2 Craterhoof Behemoth
X1 Birchlore Ranger
X1 Llanowar Elves
X4 Glimpse of Nature
X4 Green Sun's Zenith
X4 Natural Order
X1 Crop Rotation
X4 Verdant Catacombs
X3 Mysty Rainforest
X2 Wooded Foothills
X2 Gaea's Cradle
X1 Overgrown Tomb
X1 Bayou
X2 Dryad Arbor
X5 Forest
Side board
X2 Meekstone
X1 Duress
X1 Thoughtseize
X3 Cabal Theropy
X1 Scavenging Ooze
X3 Abrupt Decay
X1 Progenitus
X1 Ruric Thar
X1 Veridan Shaman
X1 Pithing Needle
Game 1 against RUG Delver, win 2/3
Meekstone single handidly won me the final two games. Its so good if you can get it to stick.
Game 2 against Jund, loose 0/2
Game one, I drew 6 lands in a row, and just did nothing, game two he devistated my board and hand. It was a sad game for the little green guys.
Game 3 against Landstill, win 2/3
Game three he had Jace at 12 counters and I was dead next turn. I came back in the craziest way! Hard casted Craterhoof met a FOW, then I followed it up with a Natural Order into my 2nd Craterhoof to win with just enough damage to get it done!
Game 4 against GWU delver/Stoneforge/TNN/exalted., I'm sure there is a proper name for the deck.. win 2/0
Playing 4 natural Order's won me this game with no question. At one point I cast 3 Natural Order's in two turns. The final one got me Hoof for the win!
Game 1 of top 8 against RWU Delver, win 2/3
Game one I had Progenitis turn 3 and there is just no answer to it.
Game two, just sad face on my side of the board.
Game 3 my opponent made two mistakes in a row with countering poorly, then not using his Grim Lavamancer to take out my Drad Arbor. This gave me the opening for turn 4 Progenitus and a fast scooping of the cards on my opponents side.
At this point it was 12:30am, and I was ready for bed! Luckily for me, the rest of the guys felt the same and we decided to split the winnings. I walked away with a Force of Will, and a Misty Rainforest.
A few things I learned from the matches.
4 Natural Orders will be staying main deck from now on! Its just so good.
Quirion Ranger with Deathrite Shaman almost feel like cheating!
Meekstone against Delver decks is crazy!
The biggest thing though is never fold early! This deck is so resiliant againt board disruption its sick! There were two diffrent games that I was sure I was going to loose and came back in both. One against an active Jitte and the other against a Jace at 12 counters.
Kevin
LOL...
Good luck, always nice to see that there are great bargains out there if your willing to gamble.
Kevin
Just finished reading your report, good stuff!
I would love to see the Scapeshift deck list. Any idea where to find it?
Thanks!
Thanks, Kevin
Thoughts?
I thought this was a great read from last weeks SCG Legacy tournament.
Hope you enjoy as much as I did!
Kevin
I also feel Vintage is one of the more affordable formats you can play. Most tournaments allow 10 proxies, and most Vintage cards do not see a lot of play in other formats making them less desirable. Can you imagine how much Yawgmoths Will would cost if you could play it in Legacy?
Proxy up a deck, find a testing partner and have fun!
Kevin