Just saw the new Nissa (http://media.wizards.com/2017/dw466ytu5_akh/en_w08Rh46uHS.png), I have the feeling it would be a good card for us!! 3 mana Scry 2/or semi Explore. And if draw late game, can give us a good threat/finisher ? It could replace some of our Serum Vision/Explore slot... What do you think ?
Just a quick question, that make a couple of time I see a copy of Chalice of the Void in the SB ? In what matchup do you board those in exactly ? Cheerios at 0 ? Affinity on the play at 0 ? Infect at 1 ? In all thoses cases... aren't we blocking ourself ? Isnt the EE better in all case ? Just trying to understand when/how someone would use Chalice ? Because I can always think of better card to board in !
Long time lurker here! Finally decided to post my version of the deck... have been playing with it for a couple of month (finished 6th in a recent PPTQ)
It's a mix between the Ooze version and the Shoal! And frankly, it is working pretty well... I think the main reason is Grisly Salvage (green source for Shoal, ability to dig for a land or a creature (to breach), and can put a creature in the GY if needed, all for 2 mana at instant speed)
The singleton Manamorphose is there is I ever combo turn 1 or 2 (and it a draw spell whenever I have more then 3 lands) as for the Jarad Order, its a nice Shoal target and worst case, its a "I win next turn card"! But to be honest, its often SB out !
Quick summary of my PPTQ..
Round 1 Blue Moon:
G1 Turn 1 Faithless put Grisel in the GY, I have the Goryo in hand... we draw and go (he countered my turn 3 Grisly Salvage) he tapped out at turn 5 to play Stormbreath Dragon , game over!
G2 (SB in Duress and Boseiju) I turn 1 Duress him, saw a Blood Moon, a Cryptic and a Remand (plus lands and Stormbreath), took out Remand, next turn draw another Duress, play fetch (go get a basic swamp, already had a Blackcleave in play) Duress his Cryptic and faithless, Grisel in GY, Goryo in hand, he tapped out to play Blood Moon... 2-0
1-0
Round 2 UWR Control:
G1 Almost Perfect Hand ( Grisel, Simian Spirit Guide, Swamp, Faithless, Goryo, Borborymos and Wurm) I win the roll.. decide to test Lady Luck.... Exile Simian, play Faithless and hope to get my second land... NO!! Well.. discard Grisel and Borborygmos, He play tap land.. I draw a land!! Win on turn 2
G2 (SB in the Duress/Boseiju) Turn 1 he play a Myth Realized, I have no turn 1 play, but Grisly Salvage, Grisel , Goryo, 2 lands and 2 Night Whisper, Turn 2 he Serum Vision, I cast Night Whisper (draw 2 Duress), I have 8 cards in end... discard the Grisel! Turn 3 he Serum again and kept 2 mana open... I draw a land... Duress(remove the remand) and Goryo ... he concede after I draw half my library 2-0
2-0
Round 3 GR Tron
G1: Dont have any notes for this game... (was too busy playing... my opponent was a really talented player!!) But I remember when he realized against what kind of deck he was playing... on his turn 3,he add 2 Urza land.. he Ghost Quartered one of his Urza to get a forest, cast a Ancient Stirrings, and reavealed a Relic... nice play mister
G2: (SB in Pithing Needle) 2 Pithing Needle in hand... I turn 1 Pithing naming Relic (he had one in hand he told me after) and turn 2 naming Expedition Map... dont remember the rest except I won
G3: Turn 2 Goryo Borborygmos into turn 4 Wurm closed the game... 2-1
3-0
Round 4 Doran
G1: I kep a hand with 2 Wurm, Breach, Shoal, Night Whisper and 2 lands. He flood the board really fast (Noble into Noble, Nobles (yes.. 3 Nobles) into Doran, Spellskite..) I have to Shoal to survive and managed to draw into the combo...
G2: (I had not see any discard effect from him... and I got the feeling he wasnt playing any.. so I just SB in Pithing Needle(for Scanvenging Ooze)) I kept a hand with Pithing, 3 lands, Simian Spirit Guide, Breach and Faithless. He start the game with Leyline of Sanctity and a Noble! I Faithless and draw Land/Wurm, I discard Simian and 1 land), on turn 2, he play RiP and another Noble! Eurk.... I draw into Grisly Salvage! He cast Doran and Spellskite, eot Grisly (took a land). Draw Night Whisper... We are both at 17hp (shock+fetch) he got 9 power on board...I use the Night Whisper, (put me at 15) drawed into Ooze/Grisel, and play Pithing naming Spellskite (no need to name Scanveging Ooze... already a RiP in play) He play Courser of Kruphix, attack me for 9 (I am at 6), my turn draw into Goryo, I TTB a Wurm he doesnt block! At my eot, Wurm die, 3 5/5 token on the board!! (he ask to see the card and call a judge!) Unless he draw a Path.. game is mine! No path (and he told me after he had a Detention Sphere in his deck!)
4-0
G5-G6 Draw into top8
I am in 4th place, first game.. playing against a Kiki/Twin deck! (saw the guy playing earlier)
Round 1. I faithless turn 1, Grisel in the GY, he Serum Vision. I Faithless again (got a Goryo and a land), he Serum again.. I try to Goryo he had a Dispel (damn) on his turn 3, He do nothing... My turn 4, play a Grisly Salvage (kept a Ooze) at my eot, he Deceiver, he has the Twin in hand
Round 2 (SB in Duress, Boseiju)
Nothing much to say.. run into Spell Snare and Dispel... he comboed at turn 4! Sometime they have it
So, finished in 6th place! Still playing with some part of the deck (like the SB) but I really like it!
(First time I am posting, will get better with time ) (and also try to take better notes )
2 Borborygmos Enraged
4 Griselbrand
2 Necrotic Ooze
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Worldspine Wurm
//Instant (16)
4 Goryo's Vengeance
4 Grisly Salvage
1 Manamorphose
4 Nourishing Shoal
3 Through the Breach
//Sorcery (8)
4 Faithless Looting
1 Jarad's Orders
2 Night's Whisper
1 Tormenting Voice
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
1 Cavern of Souls
2 Forest
1 Mountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Stomping Ground
3 Swamp
2 Wooded Foothills
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
4 Duress
4 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Pithing Needle
1 Thoughtseize
It's a mix between the Ooze version and the Shoal! And frankly, it is working pretty well... I think the main reason is Grisly Salvage (green source for Shoal, ability to dig for a land or a creature (to breach), and can put a creature in the GY if needed, all for 2 mana at instant speed)
The singleton Manamorphose is there is I ever combo turn 1 or 2 (and it a draw spell whenever I have more then 3 lands) as for the Jarad Order, its a nice Shoal target and worst case, its a "I win next turn card"! But to be honest, its often SB out !
Quick summary of my PPTQ..
Round 1 Blue Moon:
G1 Turn 1 Faithless put Grisel in the GY, I have the Goryo in hand... we draw and go (he countered my turn 3 Grisly Salvage) he tapped out at turn 5 to play Stormbreath Dragon , game over!
G2 (SB in Duress and Boseiju) I turn 1 Duress him, saw a Blood Moon, a Cryptic and a Remand (plus lands and Stormbreath), took out Remand, next turn draw another Duress, play fetch (go get a basic swamp, already had a Blackcleave in play) Duress his Cryptic and faithless, Grisel in GY, Goryo in hand, he tapped out to play Blood Moon... 2-0
1-0
Round 2 UWR Control:
G1 Almost Perfect Hand ( Grisel, Simian Spirit Guide, Swamp, Faithless, Goryo, Borborymos and Wurm) I win the roll.. decide to test Lady Luck.... Exile Simian, play Faithless and hope to get my second land... NO!! Well.. discard Grisel and Borborygmos, He play tap land.. I draw a land!! Win on turn 2
G2 (SB in the Duress/Boseiju) Turn 1 he play a Myth Realized, I have no turn 1 play, but Grisly Salvage, Grisel , Goryo, 2 lands and 2 Night Whisper, Turn 2 he Serum Vision, I cast Night Whisper (draw 2 Duress), I have 8 cards in end... discard the Grisel! Turn 3 he Serum again and kept 2 mana open... I draw a land... Duress(remove the remand) and Goryo ... he concede after I draw half my library 2-0
2-0
Round 3 GR Tron
G1: Dont have any notes for this game... (was too busy playing... my opponent was a really talented player!!) But I remember when he realized against what kind of deck he was playing... on his turn 3,he add 2 Urza land.. he Ghost Quartered one of his Urza to get a forest, cast a Ancient Stirrings, and reavealed a Relic... nice play mister
G2: (SB in Pithing Needle) 2 Pithing Needle in hand... I turn 1 Pithing naming Relic (he had one in hand he told me after) and turn 2 naming Expedition Map... dont remember the rest except I won
G3: Turn 2 Goryo Borborygmos into turn 4 Wurm closed the game... 2-1
3-0
Round 4 Doran
G1: I kep a hand with 2 Wurm, Breach, Shoal, Night Whisper and 2 lands. He flood the board really fast (Noble into Noble, Nobles (yes.. 3 Nobles) into Doran, Spellskite..) I have to Shoal to survive and managed to draw into the combo...
G2: (I had not see any discard effect from him... and I got the feeling he wasnt playing any.. so I just SB in Pithing Needle(for Scanvenging Ooze)) I kept a hand with Pithing, 3 lands, Simian Spirit Guide, Breach and Faithless. He start the game with Leyline of Sanctity and a Noble! I Faithless and draw Land/Wurm, I discard Simian and 1 land), on turn 2, he play RiP and another Noble! Eurk.... I draw into Grisly Salvage! He cast Doran and Spellskite, eot Grisly (took a land). Draw Night Whisper... We are both at 17hp (shock+fetch) he got 9 power on board...I use the Night Whisper, (put me at 15) drawed into Ooze/Grisel, and play Pithing naming Spellskite (no need to name Scanveging Ooze... already a RiP in play) He play Courser of Kruphix, attack me for 9 (I am at 6), my turn draw into Goryo, I TTB a Wurm he doesnt block! At my eot, Wurm die, 3 5/5 token on the board!! (he ask to see the card and call a judge!) Unless he draw a Path.. game is mine! No path (and he told me after he had a Detention Sphere in his deck!)
4-0
G5-G6 Draw into top8
I am in 4th place, first game.. playing against a Kiki/Twin deck! (saw the guy playing earlier)
Round 1. I faithless turn 1, Grisel in the GY, he Serum Vision. I Faithless again (got a Goryo and a land), he Serum again.. I try to Goryo he had a Dispel (damn) on his turn 3, He do nothing... My turn 4, play a Grisly Salvage (kept a Ooze) at my eot, he Deceiver, he has the Twin in hand
Round 2 (SB in Duress, Boseiju)
Nothing much to say.. run into Spell Snare and Dispel... he comboed at turn 4! Sometime they have it
So, finished in 6th place! Still playing with some part of the deck (like the SB) but I really like it!
(First time I am posting, will get better with time