Ive been testing a more midrange grindy version with less focus on getting the combo fast. So far I really like it against most decks in the format excluding tron....I'm taking it to regionals tomorrow, and I intend to play until the end no matter my standings. Has anyone else been playing with anything similar?
I've been working on a list; its pretty much typical, but I've been trying to run vampire night hawk over wolfir avenger and I've beening running a 1 of wolfir silverheart to tutor with garruk's flipside. After watching slater's vids, I really like essence harvest over nighthawk...seems like it'd be tons easier on the mana base. Also, golgari charm is an awesome addendum ive been running 2 sb myself....maybe they should be maindeck to help with these new hexproof decks coming up...also a card worth looking into is tribute to hunger. I have a feeling an edict effect will be needed now that bant's mana is fixed properly. Also any gtc Ideas for this deck?
so blood artist....is everyone forgetting her? i personally swear by her and will be running no less than three... also naybe a bloodthrone vampire or two?
This is my current list for my mbc...Ive added inkmoth and skittles in the side board to help deal with lifegaining post decks...as always feed back is welcome... this list took my fnm by storm......no losses 1 draw with a delver
So I've had a lot of feed back on my deck. Most people's opinions are that i need to add lashwrithe and ink moth... So my thoughts are why not go full infect!....I am looking for feed back and discussion on this list.
you could turn 4 mutilate and/ or bsz turn 5 big lili turn 6 skittles with haste and -3 lil for the win
I took this list to fnm and went 3/2 to get into top 8 and then lost.
match 1 was a DELVER deck with Talrand. It was a close game but honestly I didnt have enough steam to ever pull through. 0/2 Ive honestly not play tested against delver/wizards. I definately think some main board grave titan would be good against this match up
match 2 was U/b/r midrange... It was kinda like solar flare with bonfire... A lucky top deck saved him game 1. I had griselbrand and karn out and he topped an image followed by suntitan bringing back o-ring... dual suntitan beat down. Game two i just had crap draws kept 3 land a cage a mutilate and liliana of the veil... I then drew 0 lands and watched him rape me lol... 0/2
match 3 Zombies U/b...My friend who is a really good zombie player... he was having a bad night tho and was 0/2 also... we've aparently got it good against zombies. was able to wipe him repeatedly game 1 and had a liliana emblem down drew into griselbrand and drew my life total down to 1 drew 2 sorin's vengence for a flashy win... game 2 was crazy i turn 3 talisman turn 4 mutilate and cage turn 5 wurmcoil and turn 6 big liana to add 6 to wurm coil then drew another to do it again... flashy awesome wins 2/0
match 4 was goblins...i was able to weather the storm and stabilize both games... nothing too crazy board wipes> goblins
match 5 mono black zombies... My wife was running this deck and it was me or her into top 8... She's just starting out and i wanted her to top 8 so i was gonna concede... She demanded me to play her (so i did)... I beat her both games with no real trouble... i expect zombie to be good with all the recursion they have but honestly i had no trouble...
top 8
delver guy again.... /sigh read first entry... I've gotta test against that deck....
Thinking about changing to black market build but honestly i don't know... griselbrand is neato but i think he doesn't belong... im thinking about -1 griselbrand -1 satchel - 2 vengeance...+1 grave titan +1 pristine talisman +2 consume spirit
Thanks for the pointers... Tokens is just the deck I'm stuck on... I do well against mono g aggro and r/g (the majority of the rest of my meta)... my sorin's thirst is to help stabilize against the hyper agressive meta I'm in, but I'm gonna try the talismans over the thirst for more ramp... I actually resolve griselbrand very frequently in my meta because I force to over commit most of the time... lashwrithe might help my slow stabilization problem and ill try them also...
Here is the list I'm trying to run. My experience is that tokens wreck my face. So I've kinda preside-boarded for them. Game two, in my experience, tokens bring in the stony silence against ratchet bomb. This is very effective against these artifact heavy mbc decklists. Also I'm one of the few proud Big Lily lovers! Any pointers or criticisms are welcomed.
1 Academy Ruins
1 Bloodstained Mire
2 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
3 Darksteel Citadel
1 Inventors' Fair
1 Island
4 Polluted Delta
1 Spire of Industry
2 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Watery Grave
// Creatures
4 Glint-Nest Crane
2 Spellskite
4 Fatal Push
2 Go for the Throat
// Sorceries
1 Damnation
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Thoughtseize
// Artifacts
1 Batterskull
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Sword of the Meek
4 Talisman of Dominance
3 Thopter Foundry
// Planeswalkers
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
2 Chalice of the Void
1 Damnation
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Liliana of the Veil
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Pithing Needle
3 Thought-Knot Seer
2 Thoughtseize
Ive been testing a more midrange grindy version with less focus on getting the combo fast. So far I really like it against most decks in the format excluding tron....I'm taking it to regionals tomorrow, and I intend to play until the end no matter my standings. Has anyone else been playing with anything similar?
1x Batterskull
3x Black Sun's Zenith
4x Duress
2x Go for the Throat
2x Grave Titan
4x Inkmoth Nexus
1x Karn Liberated
2x Lashwrithe
3x Liliana of the Veil
4x Mutilate
3x Pristine Talisman
1x Ratchet Bomb
4x Sign in Blood
1x Sorin's Vengeance
1x Staff of Nin
20x Swamp
4x Tragic Slip
1x Elixir of Immortality
2x Grafdigger's Cage
1x Karn Liberated
1x Life's Finale
2x Massacre Wurm
2x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Ratchet Bomb
2x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
2x Surgical Extraction
1x Wurmcoil Engine
This is my current list for my mbc...Ive added inkmoth and skittles in the side board to help deal with lifegaining post decks...as always feed back is welcome... this list took my fnm by storm......no losses 1 draw with a delver
you could turn 4 mutilate and/ or bsz turn 5 big lili turn 6 skittles with haste and -3 lil for the win
4 Inkmoth Nexus
20 Swamp
// Creatures
4 Phyrexian Crusader
2 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
// Spells
2 lashwrithe
1 Batterskull
3 Black Sun's Zenith
2 Despise
2 Duress
2 Go for the Throat
1 Karn Liberated
2 Liliana of the Dark Realms
1 Liliana of the Veil
3 Mutilate
2 Pristine Talisman
2 Ratchet Bomb
4 Sign in Blood
3 Tragic Slip
1 Wurmcoil Engine
2 Elixir of Immortality
2 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Grave Titan
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Massacre Wurm
2 Phyrexian Obliterator
3 Surgical Extraction
2x Black Sun's Zenith
3x Duress
4x Mutilate
4x Sign in Blood
2x Sorin's Vengeance
1x Karn Liberated
2x Liliana of the Dark Realms
1x Liliana of the Veil
1x Batterskull
1x Druidic Satchel
2x Pristine Talisman
2x Ratchet Bomb
2x Griselbrand
3x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Wurmcoil Engine
3x Tragic Slip
1x Grave Titan
2x Elixir of Immortality
2x Massacre Wurm
3x Surgical Extraction
2x Despise
2x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Liliana of the Veil
2x Grafdigger's Cage
I took this list to fnm and went 3/2 to get into top 8 and then lost.
match 1 was a DELVER deck with Talrand. It was a close game but honestly I didnt have enough steam to ever pull through. 0/2 Ive honestly not play tested against delver/wizards. I definately think some main board grave titan would be good against this match up
match 2 was U/b/r midrange... It was kinda like solar flare with bonfire... A lucky top deck saved him game 1. I had griselbrand and karn out and he topped an image followed by suntitan bringing back o-ring... dual suntitan beat down. Game two i just had crap draws kept 3 land a cage a mutilate and liliana of the veil... I then drew 0 lands and watched him rape me lol... 0/2
match 3 Zombies U/b...My friend who is a really good zombie player... he was having a bad night tho and was 0/2 also... we've aparently got it good against zombies. was able to wipe him repeatedly game 1 and had a liliana emblem down drew into griselbrand and drew my life total down to 1 drew 2 sorin's vengence for a flashy win... game 2 was crazy i turn 3 talisman turn 4 mutilate and cage turn 5 wurmcoil and turn 6 big liana to add 6 to wurm coil then drew another to do it again... flashy awesome wins 2/0
match 4 was goblins...i was able to weather the storm and stabilize both games... nothing too crazy board wipes> goblins
match 5 mono black zombies... My wife was running this deck and it was me or her into top 8... She's just starting out and i wanted her to top 8 so i was gonna concede... She demanded me to play her (so i did)... I beat her both games with no real trouble... i expect zombie to be good with all the recursion they have but honestly i had no trouble...
top 8
delver guy again.... /sigh read first entry... I've gotta test against that deck....
Thinking about changing to black market build but honestly i don't know... griselbrand is neato but i think he doesn't belong... im thinking about -1 griselbrand -1 satchel - 2 vengeance...+1 grave titan +1 pristine talisman +2 consume spirit
3x Duress
4x Mutilate
4x Sign in Blood
2x Sorin's Vengeance
2x Go for the Throat
2x Sorin's Thirst
3x Tragic Slip
1x Batterskull
1x Druidic Satchel
2x Ratchet Bomb
1x Karn Liberated
2x Liliana of the Dark Realms
1x Liliana of the Veil
3x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Wurmcoil Engine
Sideboard (15)
2x Elixir of Immortality
2x Massacre Wurm
3x Surgical Extraction
2x Despise
2x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Liliana of the Veil
2x Grafdigger's Cage