MTG Salvation

4 Smallpox, 3 Lightning Axe, and 4 Faithless are the only ways to discard unless hes targeting himself with Ravens crime. Which means the only instant speed discard he has is Lightning Axe. Also 0 copies of Squee. He seems all in on Lingering Souls at a time when I feel a lot of people have extra hate for thopters. Illness in the Ranks, Izzet Staticaster, Night of Souls' Betrayal are all commonplace in my meta which makes me want to lean on the zombies which dodge a lot of the hate being brought in.

I think you are in the wrong thread friend.

I too was thinking about a light white splash. With 8-10 fetches 1 Fountain is all you would need. Plus you get Helix for burn and other decks you are trying to race.

Grand Abolisher or Vexing Shusher fit the deck a little better IMO.

I cant get my hands on a Raging Ravine through trading and the price is out of my current financial situation. My mana is thus -1 Ravine -1 Canopy +1 Stirring Wildwood +1 Stomping ground. I am unsure on the 3rd Stomping but don't know what else to put in its place.

And kiki Chord.

He took so much extra damage off his lands, but that's to be expected when hes not familiar with the mana and needs of the deck.

He has 2 Pia maindeck?

God both of you stop.

I really like the WGColorless deck. I think that it is a mistake not running finks. 2 pridemage and 2 spellskite main seems overkill with twin gone. 4 spike feeder is definitely too many. Maybe 1 skite, 1 qsali, 3 feeder, 2 finks, 1 fiend hunter. Sea gate wreckage just seems like a house but I don't know if its all that much better than horizon canopy. I dunno seems worth testing at least but my gut says its not as strong.

I agree its not for us, but it hits all permanents not just creatures. So lands and any enchantments or artifacts you bring in postboard get caught by this. In our deck that means there's like 12 cards in the whole 75 that wont get hit by Matter Reshaper. Still not worth the colorless requirement.

Some observations from the 2 Top 32 lists.


Both versions had 0 copies of Fulm, maybe devoting more SB to other match-ups and just hoping to dodge Tron and Bloom?
Both versions played 4 Voice in the 75.
2 Wall of roots in both decks.
2 MD Skite in both.
0 copies of Leap in either deck.
SB Tasigur for one.
3 Horizon canopy in the mana for one.
7 Ewitt across the two decks.

If I'm going to combo kill I almost always go for infinite bolster. It's easier to cast than redcap. I can use my infinite scry to set up a chord or if there is a coco with the other Sister in the next 6 put that on top. I'm always finding a redundant combo piece so if something goes wrong between gaining infinite and me drawing a card I can just reset. There are very few match-ups where attacking with infinite power creatures is much different that doing infinite to their face with redcap.

I would say I combo off on something like 50ish percent of my games but I'd actually have to keep track to be sure. There are a few match-ups where comboing does nothing so I never chord or take combo pieces and just go value beats.

As for match-ups I take out Redcap, almost every single match-up where they have combo disruption, any match-up where they are going to mess with my land base, any match-up where i need to lower my curve, any match-up where I have a bunch of SB cards I want to bring in but still keep the combo intact. Redcap, Ewiit, New Lili(Still a House with 3 MD Voice and 3 MD Seer) are all some of my first cuts against a lot of decks. Those cards are all-stars in grindy match-ups but against aggro or combo they are entirely too slow.

I don't actually run any leaps which probably affected my comment on over siding them.



I end up siding out Redcap almost every game so I'm thinking of replacing him with big Anafenza or a 3rd Hierarch. I also want to play around with dropping the 3rd ewitt and going a 2/2 with her and another new Lili. As for the SB the flex spots depend on which store I'm playing at. I play Weds and Monday at 25-35 person events. There's a lot of Grishoalbrand (Pithing, Rhetoric) in my area and no Tron. One store has 2 Living End and a Dredgevine so I have second Scooze and Big Anafenza. There are 2 Ad nauseam players which Needle stops as well.

In your Affinity notes you mention Lili buys back Kataki. Don't do this, it's cheating. She can only buyback non-legendary.

For burn I would rather side out Redcap or second Ewitness than drop a Company.

For Grixis control and a couple other match-ups you're taking out Viscera Seers and I think that's wrong in your list which runs 2 Lili. Seer is an all-star for me and I never take him out.

For Bloom I don't like taking out both Paths, they will often keep a hand with just Titan and you can really punish them if they go all in with a good Path. I would take out Redcap before a Path. Infinite bolster is enough to kill them as they have no removal to mess with the combo.

For Grishoalbrand I think you're completely off. Path and Fiendhunter(off a chord) are 2 ways to interact with the deck and almost all of their mana is rituals. I wouldn't bring in any Fulms.


I think you in general are correct but I think you are too quick to side out the combo for the Evo Leap plan, I think you bring in too many Fulms too often, and I think you are too hesitant to side out Redcap. I would also suggest a few cards from the board in the form of an old Anafenza or 2nd Scooze, Eidolon of rhetoric, find room for a second AD. I've also had a lot of success with Tidehollow in my list with new Lili in the place of Thoughtsiezes.

Just my 2¢

There's no way we can support a 6 drop. A 6/5 isn't worth an extra slot that doesn't get hit by company. You're better off just running a 4th Chord, it also fetches a 3cmc for 6 mana, is instant speed, and can be cast off convoke.