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  • posted a message on [UST][CUBE] Over My Dead Bodies
    Yeah, since this only references attacking/blocking, you can't pump or wrath them. I'm not planning on cubing this, but it does seem fun.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Jenna, do you think Killjoy is approaching his response to LnGrrr as though he knows that Phoenix is town, that he's trying to defend a buddy, or is that not factoring into your thought process/irrelevant?

    That's the more poignant question to me regarding his response than his approach v LnGrrr.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Mothership spoilers 11-17 Modular Monstrosity
    Quote from PhroX »
    A friend of mine pointed out that you can get some interesting effects from the more odd Cumulative Upkeep cards. Thinks like "cumulative upkeep: draw a card" or "cumulative upkeep: Gain control of a land you don't control"
    Note that it has to have been printed on a creature. So you can get "cumulative upkeep - gain control of a land you don't control", but Psychic Vortex isn't a creature, so you can't choose that variant.

    I'm a fan of rampage 4, renown 6, and random things like "cumulative upkeep - flip a coin", haunt, slivercycling, snow-covered forestwalk, level up 1, etc.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    I mean, there's a decent chance that there's a neutral, but I dislike neutral-hunting for a few reasons:
    1) We don't know for sure that there's a neutral
    2) It distracts from hunting actual scum
    3) Opening this door wide enough gives scum something to engage on that ends up looking like scumhunting

    If we stumble upon information that leads us to believe there's a neutral killing role down the line (SK, Hitman) due to a double-kill Night or information that a double-kill Night was prevented, then that's worth revisiting. Otherwise, even if there's another neutral role, it gets in the way of finding the actual scum.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Why are we talking about neutrals?
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on [UST][CUBE] Selfie Preservation
    Gaea's Cradle isn't a basic land, though, last time I checked.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    so why does me not using my ability automatically adhere to what you believe? "Once you see someone as scummy everything they do is scummy." I might have to do a detailed explanation later tonight on why exactly I didnt use my ability, just so people stop bringing it up, Im not not in the mood for another "Lets lynch Wisp" extravaganza. and my point with the above comment was to show you, that what you think might mean one thing, it might mean the complete opposite to others, and no matter how much I push that, the above might be a scum slip, you would never believe me... Thats my point here, nothing I say would give you any less reason to think what I did last night was scummy. and my answer to that, is I dont care. Smile
    I'd love a more detailed explanation, and will stop tunneling you in the mean time. I may be losing perspective here and have plenty of other reading to do.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Cythare »
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from Cythare »
    But as scum, you just claim you didn't use your ability and then give BP to your scumbuddy. There's no reason to create a paper trail.
    except i actually didnt use my ability, and ur assuming otherwise because you think the possible action would be for me to give BP. You can keep asking me questions about this, but there are many reasons why I didnt use my ability...
    I'm saying that because I thought that was your ability? It's possible that I've just misread this and latched onto something that's incorrect. If I'm misinterpreting your ability, then I'll drop the point.
    Nope, I didn't misinterpret (I just got to your full claim). Maybe there's something more going on here, but if your role is to give people BP, and you have people that you trust, idk why you hoard the BP. Could just be that I don't understand your tactics or that there's something more that I don't know, but it seeems scummy to me.
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Allying when you've said you will likely betray does not sound like a scum slip.


    At least not if the interaction has one or more town in it.
    Agreed. It doesn't indicate town per se, but this is definitely not a scenario to apply "Lynch all Liars" to.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from Cythare »
    But as scum, you just claim you didn't use your ability and then give BP to your scumbuddy. There's no reason to create a paper trail.
    except i actually didnt use my ability, and ur assuming otherwise because you think the possible action would be for me to give BP. You can keep asking me questions about this, but there are many reasons why I didnt use my ability...
    I'm saying that because I thought that was your ability? It's possible that I've just misread this and latched onto something that's incorrect. If I'm misinterpreting your ability, then I'll drop the point.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Quote from Cythare »
    That's after like...8 posts in a row, though.
    I see.
    so 2 consecutive posts max
    edit only if nobody posted afterwards and you want to clarify things
    (since I'd assume live clarification in conversation is allowed?)
    So, generally, you can use multiquote to put a bunch of replies all into one post - it takes a bit longer but makes it easier to read (and also encourages a response to likewise be contained to a single post).
    The 2 consecutive posts isn't a hard & fast rule, but beyond that, it should be like if no one has responded in a few hours, then you can post again with new thoughts.
    Don't edit an existing post ever. Use another post if necessary, but if you're multiquoting (and refreshing to see any new posts), then that will be a second or maybe third post instead of creating a larger string of posts.


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    Thanks for the additional info - I'll read up on it.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    But as scum, you just claim you didn't use your ability and then give BP to your scumbuddy. There's no reason to create a paper trail.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    Because you have to weigh that against not wanting to give BP to town?
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    But if Day 1 was mostly defending yourself, you should still be able to suss out to some degree which of the players attacking you were coming from a town perspective v a scummier approach. I'll cede the Shin read being neutral since I'm not digging around to verify this. But also, asking him not to betray you is different from you betraying him.

    Regardless of your read on others, Mafia isn't a solo game. I'm indifferent on you betraying him to some degree, but doing that and not gifting anyone (you didn't have any town reads strong enough?) is questionable at best to me.

    You're also shifting the blame for the outcome to Shin, which isn't alignment-indicative per se, except that it's another case of self-defense. I don't see the townie mindset in how you're approaching your defense.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    That's after like...8 posts in a row, though.
    Posted in: Mafia
  • posted a message on Zero Escape Mafia - Day 2 - Unlucky Seven
    I've gotten through a few pages of D2 while at work and am stuck on Lastwhisper's actions N1, which just...don't make sense if he's townreading his pairing, and he's cleary very focused on how he's being read, which isn't something that a townie should be preoccupied with. A few questions/notes, 2/3 of which are about Lastwhisper before I head to a meeting for a bit.

    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    The only thing preventing me from voting DBS is trusting GF's reads. Anyways, D_V starts the train, and DBS jumps on it on post 3353. My working theory is that Iso wagon was going nowhere, so DBS floated GF as a possible alternative lynch to scumbuddy LW. Once he saw DV jump on it, he decided it was a safe wagon to push. He had noted before that GF was feeling scummy to him, but I'll have to go back further to see if that was in isolation or his feelings "changed" once others expressed suspicion.
    Why the trust in GF's reads? Just because he's town doesn't mean he's right. Am I missing things from D1 (which I haven’t reviewed yet)?

    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    I didnt gift anyone last night lol, but if I did? itd probably be D.V who is now dead, and maybe Axel? I am still skeptical about everyone, so I didnt want to give points to possible scum. But now that I am at 6BP I can be less stingy...
    I’m assuming that you discussed using your ability yesterday? This is a decidedly selfish decision – did you not have any town reads? I don’t really have time to dig through your old posts to find your read on Shinichi, but you seem to be interacting relatively cordially at first glance for someone you betrayed. EDIT: Apparently you townread him per #3866 (if this is incorrect, then my bad).

    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from Iso »
    So what exactly were you implying with that post, then?
    cause I didnt want to get more scum read, hours before phase change because you thought my idea was stupid... isnt that what, "adding fuel to the fire" means? but actually I do get why you guys think it had a connection to my role, b/c it may you believe that I had a threshold also, or needed more bp then I was saying...
    Again, very self-centered “I didn’t want to get more scum read”.

    Not ready to vote, as I'd like to review this further and I'm still woefully out-of-date, but I'm interested in a Lastwhisper lynch based on where I'm currently at.
    Posted in: Mafia
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