No riddle needed.
People guessed this card incorrectly on the last thread anyway...they made it worse than it actually is.
Banefire XR
Sorcery (R)
Banefire deals X damage to target creature or player. If X is 5 or greater, Banefire can't be countered by spells or abilities and the damage can't be prevented.
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Holy monkey ****, it is better than the previously incorrectly spoiled one, and is super splashy! Oh man, that will definitely be useful against a certain deck, and any deck splashing red can use it. Man.
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Ezuri, Renegade Leader (Aggro/Combo - Favorite) Skullbriar, the Walking Grave (Sac and Grave hijinks) Azusa, Lost but Seeking (Landfall hijinks) Kaalia of the Vast (Heavily modded)
Awesome card. Probably better than Demonfire the majority of the time. Red getting two uncounterable bomby cards is really good I think, speaking as someone who is sick of seeing Blue dominating T2 then still having to hear Blue players whine about not having Counterspell.
Holy crap. This puts demonfire to shame. This is another punch in the stomach to faeries. One or two more cards like this and faeries would be curb stomped out of existence.
Control in standard? We barely knew you. I can't imagine how any traditional control deck can handle this thing without Duress AND Remand in the same format. Pitty about my Cruel Ultimatums...
But, oh my, how I love this card. Have that, you Cryptic Command.
Read Remand again. It doesn't do what you think it does.
Venser still works though.
Also, please confirm this is a rare not a mythic. Because I will be so ****ing pissed if it's a mythic.
This is absolutely beautiful. I'm just glad to see that they have figured out away to fix some of the problems they've created with out banning anything. This is going directly into my Predator Dragon deck as a complete finisher.
Just wanted to point out that Banefire should say "cannot be countered by spells or abilities" instead of just "cannot be countered" because obviously the spell will be countered its target becomes illegal.
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Look out for decks running Swerve purely to deal with this. I cant think of another way to stop it other than that, but just imagine how much fun it would be to swerve Banefire back in someone's face
Runed Halo, since it wouldn't be able to target you.
Banefire is very good; a lot better than I ever had expected. Definitely going to be a one-of in five colour I suspect.
Damn red <_<
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EDH UUU Azami, Lady of Scrolls RRR Diaochan, Artful Beauty UR(U/R) Tibor, Lumia, & Melek (WIP)
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
This won't affect the Faerie vs. RDW match up much. As pointed out in the Fae thread, Fae still has Mistbinds, Thoughtseize, and if necessary, Vendilion.
Look out for decks running Swerve purely to deal with this. I cant think of another way to stop it other than that, but just imagine how much fun it would be to swerve Banefire back in someone's face
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I think its a rare because it belongs to the greater than 5 cycle like martial coup.
So that kinda confirms it as a rare.
Also it would be very expensive at mythic
I concur, this will be a normal rare. A hot, juicy, luscious chase rare that I want in large quantities :D. Making Mythic wouldn't make much sense since it doesn't have the Legendary angle going for it, is functionally similar to Martial Coup in the 5> thing. And, not having anything to do with design itself, but at Mythic it would be stupidly expensive and a generally BAD MOVE on WotC's side. I wonder just how expensive this monkey will be...
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Wow, a type of card that actually inproven in this block. That's new besides the reprinting and functional reprinting.
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hey i have managed to evolve my axolotls by feeding them thyroid glands the thyroxine contained in these gland is enough to change these water dwelling creatures into land based creatures
Posted by: Tay Collins | January 20, 2010 6:45 AM
Tay, that's not evolution. It's metamorphosis. Evolution means descent with heritable modification – individuals cannot evolve, unless they're Pokemon.
Posted by: David Marjanović | January 20, 2010 8:55 AM
This card is superior to demonfire in MANY ways, wich means it will see play for years to come in both T2 and extended.
Right, but Banefire does not RFG a creature, and in some matchups that can be very important. Plus, sometimes it's easier to have an empty hand rather then being forced to pay X >= 5.
Though I agree Banefire is pretty much better then Demonfire, and we all know how much that saw play in Ravnica standard. I remember that being the one card no one ever had and everyone always wanted.
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wouldnt it be a 5 card cycle? military coup would have no place in naya (as bant is the shard that has military)
i dont remember if the info on whether or not it is a 5 or 3 card cycle has already been stated or not in another thread, sorry for double post if it has
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People guessed this card incorrectly on the last thread anyway...they made it worse than it actually is.
Banefire XR
Sorcery (R)
Banefire deals X damage to target creature or player. If X is 5 or greater, Banefire can't be countered by spells or abilities and the damage can't be prevented.
Demonfire, who needs you?
I am aware some other riddle threads are falling behind, but this will be mostly rectified this afternoon when I update the spoiler with most of them.
I just suggest people to not post spoiler threads in riddle form if they don't intend to be online to confirm any of it.
Also, read threads before posting, lest you confuse yourself, and or get moderated.
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Read Remand again. It doesn't do what you think it does.
Venser still works though.
Also, please confirm this is a rare not a mythic. Because I will be so ****ing pissed if it's a mythic.
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Well... CoP doesn't do anything since the damage can't be prevented either.
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but seriously, I think that this will top the price list for rares(not mythic. just rare), Unless something better crops up.
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Runed Halo, since it wouldn't be able to target you.
Banefire is very good; a lot better than I ever had expected. Definitely going to be a one-of in five colour I suspect.
Damn red <_<
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I think it will be more potent in 5C than RDW.
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Very nice card, I might have to put it in my SB =3
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I concur, this will be a normal rare. A hot, juicy, luscious chase rare that I want in large quantities :D. Making Mythic wouldn't make much sense since it doesn't have the Legendary angle going for it, is functionally similar to Martial Coup in the 5> thing. And, not having anything to do with design itself, but at Mythic it would be stupidly expensive and a generally BAD MOVE on WotC's side. I wonder just how expensive this monkey will be...
Commander
Ezuri, Renegade Leader (Aggro/Combo - Favorite)
Skullbriar, the Walking Grave (Sac and Grave hijinks)
Azusa, Lost but Seeking (Landfall hijinks)
Kaalia of the Vast (Heavily modded)
Standard
Waiting for Innistrad...
Extended
Hah!
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Living End Cascade (RGB)
Legacy
Burn
Vintage
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Casual
WB Aggro-Control
Green Stompy
Pink Floyd (UWr Wall Control)
Lunch Box (Fatty ramp)
D-Bag (White Control)
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Posted by: Tay Collins | January 20, 2010 6:45 AM
Tay, that's not evolution. It's metamorphosis. Evolution means descent with heritable modification – individuals cannot evolve, unless they're Pokemon.
Posted by: David Marjanović | January 20, 2010 8:55 AM
Right, but Banefire does not RFG a creature, and in some matchups that can be very important. Plus, sometimes it's easier to have an empty hand rather then being forced to pay X >= 5.
Though I agree Banefire is pretty much better then Demonfire, and we all know how much that saw play in Ravnica standard. I remember that being the one card no one ever had and everyone always wanted.
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wouldnt it be a 5 card cycle? military coup would have no place in naya (as bant is the shard that has military)
i dont remember if the info on whether or not it is a 5 or 3 card cycle has already been stated or not in another thread, sorry for double post if it has