Nyxathid - 3
Kranioceros - 2
Fleshformer - 2
Dreadwing - 2
Bloodhall - 3
Ooze - 5
Brackwater - 2
Charnelhoard - 2 (for Charnelhoard Wurm)
Progenitus - 3
Scornful - 2 (This should also assume that Æther-Lich should also be a hit of 2, but Æther-Lich can't be sent through the Orb.)
If there are others that still haven't been checked, I'll let you all know.
Maybe at some point...but I think that's something others will be able to figure out once we get closer to the end, and need help with the last few cards (AKA: I'm too lazy to do that at the moment)
Maybe at some point...but I think that's something others will be able to figure out once we get closer to the end, and need help with the last few cards (AKA: I'm too lazy to do that at the moment)
Yeah it doesn't make sense to do it now. Somewhere past halfway, so that you can really start to make some inferences.
those - 5
them - 6
equal - 7
more - 3
These kinds of results are very useful to me.
Also:
greater - 3
In tandem with the more=3 result, this means we're only going to see three "threshold X spells", as I would call them were it not for threshold cards.
I believe that makes it a Naya cycle.
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Yeah it doesn't make sense to do it now. Somewhere past halfway, so that you can really start to make some inferences.
those - 5
them - 6
equal - 7
more - 3
These kinds of results are very useful to me.
Also:
greater - 3
In tandem with the more=3 result, this means we're only going to see three "threshold X spells", as I would call them were it not for threshold cards.
I believe that makes it a Naya cycle.
Good call...updated the first post...I wonder if we have all the manacosts accounted for, or if there are strange costs like in Shards. I did my best to check a lot of them, but I could have missed a few (see Malfegor's cost)
Yeah it doesn't make sense to do it now. Somewhere past halfway, so that you can really start to make some inferences.
those - 5
them - 6
equal - 7
more - 3
These kinds of results are very useful to me.
Also:
greater - 3
In tandem with the more=3 result, this means we're only going to see three "threshold X spells", as I would call them were it not for threshold cards.
I believe that makes it a Naya cycle.
As worded
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Creature - Beast (R)
Whenever another creature with power 5 or greater comes into play under your control, you may return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
5/5
Would be the 3rd greater.
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I added this to the other Compilation of Orb thread too:
Everyone left out that the Orb of Insight returns: 4UBBR = 1... to which we all know is Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker!
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First and foremost. The NOVELS ARE NOT OUT. and there is only 1 novel. called "Alara Unbroken" Nicol Bolas Planeswalker takes up at least 2 instances of the word Planeswalker. Note the Name
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4RBBU
Planeswalker - Nicol
However i seem to be missing something. there are 3 instances of Planeswalker, which are already taken as up to two.
then there are three instances of Bolas (only one of which I'm aware is taken, unless his planeswalker type is Nicol Bolas)
And to top that off there are only 2 instances of Nicol (which is where I'm lost. if his name is Nicol bolas, planeswalker. where is the other instance come from?)
If his planeswalker type is Nicol bolas, Where is the other instance of Bolas coming from. he cant be mentioning his name in his text box. because that would lead to three of each instance.) the other instance of planeswalker could be some random walker we're unaware of (less likely) or something that destroys target planeswalker (likely) but then. where are the the last instances of Bolas coming from?
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First and foremost. The NOVELS ARE NOT OUT. and there is only 1 novel. called "Alara Unbroken" Nicol Bolas Planeswalker takes up at least 2 instances of the word Planeswalker. Note the Name
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4RBBU
Planeswalker - Nicol
However i seem to be missing something. there are 3 instances of Planeswalker, which are already taken as up to two.
then there are three instances of Bolas (only one of which I'm aware is taken, unless his planeswalker type is Nicol Bolas)
And to top that off there are only 2 instances of Nicol (which is where I'm lost. if his name is Nicol bolas, planeswalker. where is the other instance come from?)
If his planeswalker type is Nicol bolas, Where is the other instance of Bolas coming from. he cant be mentioning his name in his text box. because that would lead to three of each instance.) the other instance of planeswalker could be some random walker we're unaware of (less likely) or something that destroys target planeswalker (likely) but then. where are the the last instances of Bolas coming from?
maybe his type is just planeswalker - bolas... and his full name is nicol bolas, planeswalker, meaning that when he self references on the card "planeswalker " reappears. my 0.02$
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4ubbr
Planeswalker - Nicol
+3: Nuke a non-creature thingy
-2: Steal a creature thingy
-9: ultimate ability, that references his name.
The self-reference will have his ", planeswalker" tag on the end because it is the first instance on the card. The title is only omitted for the second reference and others following it. This covers all 3 instances.
Elspeth "we must fight to protect order and justice!"
Tezzeret "No! he will break all my artifacts and stomp my head!"
Vol "powerful dragon must be brought to heel!"
Ajani "**** this Im outta *planeswalks to lorwyn* wow what hell is this place?"
Little lorwyn goblin "this be the place of bad art and Tribes!!!"
All other Alara planeswalkers "hey where did ajani go???"
In my opinion, the Indestructable will be one of the abilitys that Thornlings will be able to have until the end of the turn. It fits in with green and +1/-1 and -1/+1
mmmm.....more likely that the undestructable will be on apocolypse hydra or progenitus. they are up there on the powerscale and more sensably indestructable. IMO thornling is going to be yet another draft bomb that brings a whopping 50 cent to the trade binder.
No, we've searched every possible letter string up to 20 alphanumeric characters already and we've gotten 0 hits for all the keywords that we don't know about yet.
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Casting Costs:
5-color
:symw::symw::symu::symu::symb::symb::symr::symr: :symg::symg: - 1
:symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: = 8
:3mana::symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: - 1
Tri-color
:symb::symr::symg: - 1
:4mana::symb::symr::symg: - 1
:1mana::symw::symu::symb: - 1
:4mana::symw::symu::symb: - 1
:symr::symg::symw: - 3
:3mana::symr::symg::symw: - 1
:symg::symw::symu: - 1
:3mana::symg::symw::symu: - 1
:3mana::symu::symb::symr: - 1
:4mana::symu::symb::symr: - 1
4UBBR - 1
Dual-color
:symb::symg: - 1
:symw::symb: - 1
:1mana::symw::symb: - 1
:symr::symw: - 1
:1mana::symu::symr: - 1
:symu::symb: - 3
:3mana::symu::symb: - 2
:symr::symg: - 1
:2mana::symr::symg: - 2
:xmana::symr::symg: - 1
:symg::symw: - 1
:1mana::symg::symw: - 1
:3mana::symg::symw: - 1
:5mana::symg::symw: - 1
:symw::symu: - 2
:1mana::symw::symu: - 2
:2mana::symw::symu: - 1
:1mana::symg::symu: - 1
:symb::symr: - 3
:1mana::symb::symr: - 1
:3mana::symb::symr: - 1
:2mana::symb::symb::symr::symr: - 1
Mono-color
- 10
:1mana::symg: - 5
:2mana::symg: - 5
:3mana::symg: - 3
:4mana::symg: - 1
:5mana::symg: - 1
:2mana::symg::symg: - 1
:3mana::symg::symg: - 2
:4mana::symg::symg: - 1
- 8
:1mana::symu: - 5
:2mana::symu: - 7
:3mana::symu: - 5
:4mana::symu: - 1
:1mana::symu::symu: - 1
:3mana::symu::symu: - 2
:7mana::symu::symu: - 1
- 5
:1mana::symw: - 8
:2mana::symw: - 4
:3mana::symw: - 2
:4mana::symw: - 2
:5mana::symw: - 2
:1mana::symw::symw: - 1
:3mana::symw::symw: - 1
:xmana::symw::symw: - 1
- 5
:1mana::symb: - 9
:2mana::symb: - 6
:3mana::symb: - 3
:4mana::symb: - 1
:5mana::symb: - 1
:6mana::symb: - 1
:symb::symb: - 1
:1mana::symb::symb: - 1
:4mana::symb::symb: - 1
:symr::4
:1mana::symr::12
:2mana::symr: - 4
:3mana::symr: - 3
:4mana::symr: - 1
:5mana::symr: - 1
:1mana::symr::symr: - 1
:2mana::symr::symr: - 2
:3mana::symr::symr: - 1
:xmana::symr: - 1
Other
- 1
= 11
Creature types/names:
Child - 2
Alara - 5
Nicol - 2
Bolas - 3
Meglonoth - 3
Progenitus - 3
Thornling - 6
Grixis - 3
Banefire - 3
Mirror-sigil - 2
Sergeant - 2
Maelstrom - 2
Nyxathid - 3
Kranioceros - 2
Dragonsoul - 2
Fleshformer - 2
Dreadwing - 2
Bloodhall - 3
Brackwater - 2
Charnelhoard - 2
Darklit - 2
Nacatl - 3
Angel - 3
Archer - 4
Artificer - 2
Avatar - 2
Beast - 6
Bird - 6
Cat - 4
Cleric - 1
Demon - 3
Dragon - 6
Druid - 2
Elder - 1
Elemental - 11
Elf - 4
Eye - 1
Faerie - 3
Fungus - 1
Gargoyle - 3
Giant - 1
Goblin - 7
Homunculus - 3
Horror - 5
Human - 18
Hydra - 6
Insect - 1
Jellyfish - 1
Knight - 8
Leviathan - 2
Lizard - 2
Minotaur - 2
Monk - 2
Mystic - 1
Ooze - 5
Phoenix - 3
Rat - 1
Rhino - 4
Rhox - 4
Rogue - 3
Saproling - 2
Scout - 5
Shaman - 2
Shapeshifter - 1
Soldier - 7
Sphinx - 6
Spider - 1
Spirit - 1
Wall - 2
Warrior - 8
Wizard - 7
Wurm - 3
Vampire - 1
Vedalken - 3
Viashino - 3
Zombie - 10
Power/Toughness & Modifications:
*/* - 1
2/* - 1
0/0 - 1
0/1 - 2
1/1 - 16
2/1 - 1
3/1 - 2
1/2 - 3
2/2 - 23
5/2 - 1
0/3 - 2
2/3 - 3
3/3 - 6
4/3 - 3
5/3 - 2
2/4 - 2
3/4 - 1
4/4 - 7
5/4 - 2
5/5 - 5
1/6 - 1
6/6 - 6
7/7 - 1
8/8 - 1
10/10 - 1
-1/-1 - 3
-2/-2 - 2
+1/-1 - 1
-1/+1 - 1
+1/+0 - 4
+1/+1 - 24
+1/+2 - 1
+2/+2 - 2
+3/+3 - 3
+4/+4 - 1
+5/+3 - 1
Mechanics:
T - 34
Domain - 10
Devour - 3
Devoured - 2
Exalted - 5
Unearth - 12
Cycling - 2
Deathtouch - 1
Defender - 1
Double - 1
Fear - 2
First - 5
Flash - 1
Flying - 29
Haste - 11
Indestructible - 1
Islandwalk - 1
Landcycling - 5
Lifelink - 2
Protection - 7
Reach - 1
Regenerate - 1
Shroud - 2
Strike - 6
Trample - 10
Unblockable - 2
Vigilance - 6
Other:
-9 - 1
-2 - 1
+3 - 1
1 - 24
2 - 15
3 - 7
4 - 4
5 - 10
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1
10 - 1
One - 5
Two - 5
Three - 1
Seven - 2
A - 91
Additional - 3
All - 4
Alone - 5
Among - 13
And - 34
Another - 5
Artifact - 38
Artifacts - 1
Attach - 1
Attacks - 7
Attacking - 1
Aura - 6
Basic - 25
Becomes - 6
Beginning - 8
Bottom - 2
Can - 1
Can’t - 8
Card - 61
Cards - 13
Choose - 2
Combat - 1
Control - 47
Controller’s - 1
Controls - 1
Copy - 1
Cost - 2
Counter - 10
Countered - 3
Counters - 9
Creature - 171
Creatures - 15
Creature’s - 1
Deal - 2
Destroy - 12
Discard - 10
Discards - 5
Doesn’t - 1
Don’t - 1
Draw - 10
Draws - 3
Each - 22
Enchantment - 12
End - 44
Equal - 7
Equip - 3
Equipment - 2
From - 36
Gain - 8
Gains - 17
Game - 9
Graveyard - 18
Greater - 3
Hand - 24
Instant - 19
Into - 58
Land - 33
Lands - 10
Legendary - 5
Library - 33
Life - 16
Loses - 8
Lost - 1
More - 3
Name - 1
Next - 2
No - 1
Noncreature - 3
Nonland - 3
Of - 101
Other - 2
Owner’s - 7
Pay - 3
Paying - 3
Pays - 1
Permanents - 2
Planeswalker - 3
Play - 64
Player - 28
Player’s - 4
Put - 39
Rather - 1
Remains - 2
Remove - 9
Return - 13
Reveal - 12
Reveals - 2
Sacrifice - 13
Search - 12
Sorcery - 19
The - 52
Them - 6
Those - 5
Token - 6
Tokens - 1
Top - 6
Total - 1
Turn - 55
Type - 8
Until - 35
Upkeep - 7
Way - 4
Without - 1
Plains - 3
Swamp - 1
Mountain - 1
Forest - 2
Island - 1
White - 7
Blue - 6
Black - 8
Red - 8
Green - 8
Artists:
Allsop - 3
Argyle - 4
Avon - 2
Baga - 1
Baxa - 1
Belledin - 5
Bonner - 1
Boros - 5
Briclot - 1
Cavotta - 3
Chan - 3
Chippy - 3
Claxton - 3
Critchlow - 1
Daarken - 5
Domingo - 1
Ejsing - 4
Francisco - 4
Giancola - 2
Grant-West - 1
Gregory - 1
Haegen - 3
Hamm - 3
Horsley - 1
Hyzer - 2
Izzy - 4
Jarvis - 2
John - 2
Jones - 5
Kendall - 3
Kitkouski - 3
Komarck - 3
Kopinski - 4
Kovacs - 2
Lockwood - 2
Lyon - 5
Mahy - 3
Moeller - 1
Palumbo - 4
Parente - 1
Post - 1
Prescott - 5
Rahn - 6
Reynolds - 2
Rossbach - 1
Scott - 2
Staples - 1
Stewart - 3
Swanland - 4
Sweet - 2
Tedin - 1
Venters - 2
Villagran - 2
Vohwinkel - 3
Walker - 2
Zug - 2
EDIT: Cleaned up the order so it's a bit more readable
Card Types
Artifact = 38
Creature = 171
Land = 33
Enchantment = 12
Sorcery = 19
Instant = 19
Planeswalker = 3
Artifacts = 1
Creatures = 15
Lands = 10
Enchantments = 0
Sorceries = 0
Instants = 0
Planeswalkers = 0
Aura = 6
Equipment = 2
Equip = 3
Basic = 25
Legendary = 5
Creature Mechanics
Flying: 29
Trample: 10
Vigilance: 6
Lifelink: 2
Deathtouch: 2
Shroud: 2
Unblockable: 2
Islandwalk: 1
Forestwalk: 0
Swampwalk: 0
Mountainwalk: 0
Plainswalk: 0
First Strike: 5
Double Strike: 1
Reach: 1
Protection: 7
Creature Types
Angel = 3
Archer = 4
Artificer = 2
Avatar = 2
Beast = 6
Bird = 6
Cleric = 1
Demon = 3
Dragon = 6
Druid = 2
Elder = 1
Elemental = 11
Elf = 4
Eye = 1
Faerie = 3
Fungus = 1
Gargoyle = 3
Giant = 1
Goblin = 7
Homunculus = 3
Horror = 5
Human = 18
Hydra = 6
Insect = 1
Jellyfish = 1
Knight = 8
Leviathan = 2
Lizard = 2
Minotaur = 2
Monk = 2
Mystic = 1
Ooze = 5
Phoenix = 3
Rat = 1
Rhino = 4
Rogue = 3
Saproling = 2
Scout = 5
Shaman = 2
Shapeshifter = 1
Soldier = 7
Sphinx = 6
Spider = 1
Spirit = 1
Vampire = 1
Vedalken = 3
Viashino = 3
Wall = 2
Warrior = 8
Wizard = 7
Wurm = 3
Zombie = 10
Power/Toughness List
*/* = 1
0/0 = 1
0/1 = 2
1/1 = 16
2/1 = 1
3/1 = 2
*/2= 1
1/2 = 3
2/2 = 23
5/2 = 1
0/3 = 2
2/3 = 3
3/3 = 6
4/3 = 3
5/3 = 2
2/4 = 2
3/4 = 1
4/4 = 7
5/4 = 2
5/5 = 5
1/6 = 1
6/6 = 6
7/7 = 1
8/8 = 1
10/10 = 1
Numbers (Artifact, Costs, Damage amounts (Absorb Vis is =two of the 4's))
1 - 24
2 - 15
3 - 7
4 - 4
5 - 10
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1
10 - 1
X - 11
Pumps/Changes (Only spot checked some common values here)
-1/-1 - 3
-2/-2 - 2
+1/-1 - 1
-1/+1 - 1
+1/+0 - 4
+1/+1 - 24
+1/+2 - 1
+2/+2 - 2
+3/+3 - 3
+4/+4 - 1
+5/+3 - 1
Kranioceros - 2
Fleshformer - 2
Dreadwing - 2
Bloodhall - 3
Ooze - 5
Brackwater - 2
Charnelhoard - 2 (for Charnelhoard Wurm)
Progenitus - 3
Scornful - 2 (This should also assume that Æther-Lich should also be a hit of 2, but Æther-Lich can't be sent through the Orb.)
If there are others that still haven't been checked, I'll let you all know.
For instance
Jellyfish -
10(Esperzoa)Dragon -
62 (Voracious Dragon - name, type, self reference, Dragonsoul knight - ability)indestructible = 1
I searched for all the artists that appeared in Shards of Alara.
jarvis-2
allsop-3
reynolds-2
lockwood-2
komarck-3
staples-1
villagran-2
francisco-4
giancola-2
stewart-3
parente-1
baxa-1
kopinski-4
claxton-3
ejsing-4
kovacs-2
swanland-4
palumbo-4
jones-5
critchlow-1
rossbach-1
izzy-4
scott-2
hyzer-2
domingo-1
horsley-1
kendall-3
bonner-1
prescott-5
hamm-3
vohwinkel-3
daarken-5
grant-west-1
baga-1
gregory-1
cavotta-3
belledin-5
mahy-3
boros-5
briclot-1
sweet-2
rahn-6
kitkouski-3
chippy-3
tedin-1
venters-2
walker-2
zug-2
lyon-5
chan-3
post-1
moeller-1
argyle-4
haegen-3
villagran-2
thats 144 cards.
That's most of the important stuff from the "Orb of Insight is Up" thread.
Maybe at some point...but I think that's something others will be able to figure out once we get closer to the end, and need help with the last few cards (AKA: I'm too lazy to do that at the moment)
Yeah it doesn't make sense to do it now. Somewhere past halfway, so that you can really start to make some inferences.
those - 5
them - 6
equal - 7
more - 3
These kinds of results are very useful to me.
Also:
greater - 3
In tandem with the more=3 result, this means we're only going to see three "threshold X spells", as I would call them were it not for threshold cards.
I believe that makes it a Naya cycle.
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Good call...updated the first post...I wonder if we have all the manacosts accounted for, or if there are strange costs like in Shards. I did my best to check a lot of them, but I could have missed a few (see Malfegor's cost)
As worded
Paleoloth - :4mana::symg::symg:
Creature - Beast (R)
Whenever another creature with power 5 or greater comes into play under your control, you may return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
5/5
Would be the 3rd greater.
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damn, that means we are only going to see 2 of these so called "Threshold X spells"
Everyone left out that the Orb of Insight returns: 4UBBR = 1... to which we all know is Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker!
-- Duncan McGregor, DCI L3 Judge, while playing his "judgebreaker" deck in an IRL EDH game
Nicol Bolas has planeswalker in his name, his card type, and his text refers to his name.
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4RBBU
Planeswalker - Nicol
However i seem to be missing something. there are 3 instances of Planeswalker, which are already taken as up to two.
then there are three instances of Bolas (only one of which I'm aware is taken, unless his planeswalker type is Nicol Bolas)
And to top that off there are only 2 instances of Nicol (which is where I'm lost. if his name is Nicol bolas, planeswalker. where is the other instance come from?)
If his planeswalker type is Nicol bolas, Where is the other instance of Bolas coming from. he cant be mentioning his name in his text box. because that would lead to three of each instance.) the other instance of planeswalker could be some random walker we're unaware of (less likely) or something that destroys target planeswalker (likely) but then. where are the the last instances of Bolas coming from?
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maybe his type is just planeswalker - bolas... and his full name is nicol bolas, planeswalker, meaning that when he self references on the card "planeswalker " reappears. my 0.02$
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4ubbr
Planeswalker - Nicol
+3: Nuke a non-creature thingy
-2: Steal a creature thingy
-9: ultimate ability, that references his name.
The self-reference will have his ", planeswalker" tag on the end because it is the first instance on the card. The title is only omitted for the second reference and others following it. This covers all 3 instances.
My Tamanoa decklist (RGW), infuriating my brother since it's so junky!
Shouldn't the card look something like that:
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4ubbr
Planeswalker - Bolas
+3: Nuke a non-creature thingy
-2: Steal a creature thingy
-9: ultimate ability, that references his name ("Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker").
This would account for al instances... which means there is only one Planeswalker in the Conflux set
A well... Maybe in Alara Reborn...
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Yes, I noticed that, too.
Could it be that this is connected to the casting cost of WWUUBBRRGG?
Could it be Child of Alara, perhaps?
Held captive by Nicol Bolas to be used in his evil schemes? Indestructible, so that he couldn't outright kill it?
From a standpoint of flavor, it makes sense to me.....
mmmm.....more likely that the undestructable will be on apocolypse hydra or progenitus. they are up there on the powerscale and more sensably indestructable. IMO thornling is going to be yet another draft bomb that brings a whopping 50 cent to the trade binder.