there more you have to drop to make the deck function. not just the force of wills. and btw sm your deck only has 59 cards.
What would I do without you? oops on the Impulse. Good thing I'm human and not a Bot.
My deck is working great, and just owned through testing last nite.
played against the following:
Manaless Ichorid {My bro won game 1, but games 2-3 were a breeze}
U/W Fish {won 2-0} Brought Goyf's in and the rest is history.
Drain~Tendrils (2-1} Interesting match-up, and good thing I had FoW's.
Media is not making me steal. But in a way is like the story of the very hot girl with the short skirt teasing the old sick guy with a history of rape.
if you're running green would Xantid Swarm be a viable option for the SB?
You know what I have really thought of that option Xantid. Just tossing 2 in side for a back-up against control. The Trygons are a sweet touch, and already running Goyfs so I wonder what could be cut to fit in the Swarms.
well whats the stats on turn wins? usualy how many turns does it take to go off?
Well unlike Drain~tendrils I have alot more turn 2-3 wins, and a fair share of turn 1 wins. I most likely lose if I go beyound turn 4 with the group of guys I play with.
I won't proxy the 3rd Tutor, and I bet if I had it I would win on average 2-3 with that freak turn 1 Occ.
why wont you proxy it up, even if it is just to test it out?
I just have a thing for guys that proxy outside power, and I have always been that way. Engine pieces are affordable, and power9 is just so damn hard to get. I know because I have 4 pieces and the cash to buy more, but I won't do ebay out of fear of getting screwed again. Besides the price shops online over charge so im happy using proxies for the rest.
I look at it like this soon I will buy the Grim and be at 3, but for now I'm just seeing if 2 is enough.............sadly I think it may not be.
I have thought about it, but I would only do so if I ran both the Tutors + Street Wraith. Any other reason would be too slow to justify, and personal tutor clearly has its flaws {reason its unrestricted}
they eventually killed my opponent who was running fish after several turns lol.
It does come in handy to have creatures boarded in against "other decks that use creature for control and beatdown" I've have had a blast running them.
They force an opp to deal with them to keep their board safe, and in that time you have a window to go combo!
they worked but took up key combo slots. i would just rather run rebuild then combo off.
I don't think You're siding correctly than, and you can email me your match-ups and I would glady share a siding primer for them.
Rebuild doesn't come out.
I have the latest version of Pitch~Long, and think in the end I'll stay with this one. My focus is not on a 3rd Grim Tutor now but the ubber rare Imperial Seal. Val you'll like to see this deck runs a Gush, and I like the fact it doesn't run Rebuild and goes with Hurkyl's Recall.
What would I do without you? oops on the Impulse. Good thing I'm human and not a Bot.
My deck is working great, and just owned through testing last nite.
played against the following:
Manaless Ichorid {My bro won game 1, but games 2-3 were a breeze}
U/W Fish {won 2-0} Brought Goyf's in and the rest is history.
Drain~Tendrils (2-1} Interesting match-up, and good thing I had FoW's.
You know what I have really thought of that option Xantid. Just tossing 2 in side for a back-up against control. The Trygons are a sweet touch, and already running Goyfs so I wonder what could be cut to fit in the Swarms.
Most surely a nice idea!
I would like some you to share were in this Grim~Long build I have posted here gives you the idea I'm using beat~down, and than control?
You got to be kidding me Val!
Well I still need my 3rd Grim~Tutor, but I would say pretty darn fast right now.
Well unlike Drain~tendrils I have alot more turn 2-3 wins, and a fair share of turn 1 wins. I most likely lose if I go beyound turn 4 with the group of guys I play with.
I won't proxy the 3rd Tutor, and I bet if I had it I would win on average 2-3 with that freak turn 1 Occ.
I just have a thing for guys that proxy outside power, and I have always been that way. Engine pieces are affordable, and power9 is just so damn hard to get. I know because I have 4 pieces and the cash to buy more, but I won't do ebay out of fear of getting screwed again. Besides the price shops online over charge so im happy using proxies for the rest.
I look at it like this soon I will buy the Grim and be at 3, but for now I'm just seeing if 2 is enough.............sadly I think it may not be.
I have thought about it, but I would only do so if I ran both the Tutors + Street Wraith. Any other reason would be too slow to justify, and personal tutor clearly has its flaws {reason its unrestricted}
Maybe you missed it with your response but I'm running a Scroll.
Against control the're golden, but they take some countermagic for back-up. Played correctly you have utility on a stick.
It does come in handy to have creatures boarded in against "other decks that use creature for control and beatdown" I've have had a blast running them.
They force an opp to deal with them to keep their board safe, and in that time you have a window to go combo!
I don't think You're siding correctly than, and you can email me your match-ups and I would glady share a siding primer for them.
Rebuild doesn't come out.
I have the latest version of Pitch~Long, and think in the end I'll stay with this one. My focus is not on a 3rd Grim Tutor now but the ubber rare Imperial Seal. Val you'll like to see this deck runs a Gush, and I like the fact it doesn't run Rebuild and goes with Hurkyl's Recall.
Format: Vintage
44 Participants
6 rounds of Swiss
1. Joe Davis
1x Black Lotus
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Jet
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mana Vault
1x Sol Ring
1x Memory Jar
Enchantment {2}
1x Necropotance
1x Yawgmoth's Bargin
Spell {35}
2x Cabal Ritual
4x Dark Ritual
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Duress
2x Grim Tutor
1x Imperial Seal
1x Tendrils of Agony
1x Vampiric Tutor
1x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Ancestral Recall
1x Brainstorm
1x Chain of Vapr
4x Force of Will
1x Gifts Ungiven
1x Gush
1x Hurkyl's Recall
1x Merchant Scroll
1x Mind's Desire
1x Misdirection
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Ponder
1x Time Walk
1x Timetwister
1x Tinker
1x Bloodstained Mire
1x Flooded Strand
1x Island
4x Polluted Delta
1x Swamp
1x Tolarian Academy
3x Underground Sea
S.B. {15}
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Darksteel Colossus
2x Extripate
2x Hurkyl's Recall
2x Island
1x Sundering Titan
1x Swamp
1x Thrashing Wumpus
1x Tormod's Crypt
2x Yixlid Jailer
Its a utility card Val, so you can do more than just fight Dredge with it.
Comes in handy against:
Goblins
Fish
Ichorid
Painter
and many other arch-types, and can be used as a finisher after a mini storm.