O.K. guys what does everyone think of this new upcoming creature out of the Avacyn set Demonlord of Ashmouth I feel like he has the potiential to stop the bleeding from i.e. Juzam Djinn, Grinning Demon, Abyssal Persecutor and most importantly Dark Confidant... Plus he has undying! Thoughts???
I think he's really bad in this deck because you can't accelerate into him on his own. Also I'd like to point out that with Undying, you have to sacrifice a creature EACH time he enters the battlefield. Card disadvantage FTL.
I think he's really bad in this deck because you can't accelerate into him on his own. Also I'd like to point out that with Undying, you have to sacrifice a creature EACH time he enters the battlefield. Card disadvantage FTL.
It totally slipped my mind that I would have to sacrifice another creature each time when it enters the battlefield with the Undying ability. Useless in this deck.
However -
I have decided to make some important changes everyone. I decided I will run the Black Lotus and the Mox Jet because they are necessity. Not only that they are great investment purchases as well as useful tools in my deck.
With that being said, should I continue to keep the Chalice of the Voids for protection of whom is to draw the Black Lotus and the Moxens first,? If yes... Then this is how she is looking as a final draft:
Should I not run the Voids for obvious reasons regarding space, and the fact that they would potentially cripple my Power 9's and Lotus Petal? If yes...
Your deck might actually be better of without moxen and lotus. Your accelerating into 5/5 and your opponents are accelerating into jaces, blightsteels and other broken things. I would try to run more chalices and even some null rods in order to force your opponent to play fairly. Also with all the suicide cards you have and the abundance of 4 cmc with bob you are going to put yourself on a very quick clock and might kill yourself before you can kill your opponent
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Undying is weak in vintage, where removal is either bounce or exile.
It's a pretty weak card. I'd rather have a juzzam, and juzzam is a pretty weak card in vintage.
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It totally slipped my mind that I would have to sacrifice another creature each time when it enters the battlefield with the Undying ability. Useless in this deck.
However -
I have decided to make some important changes everyone. I decided I will run the Black Lotus and the Mox Jet because they are necessity. Not only that they are great investment purchases as well as useful tools in my deck.
With that being said, should I continue to keep the Chalice of the Voids for protection of whom is to draw the Black Lotus and the Moxens first,? If yes... Then this is how she is looking as a final draft:
-1 Grim Monolith
-1 ??? Lotus Petal ???
+1 Black Lotus
+1 Mox Jet
1 Black Lotus
3 Chalice Of The Void
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
Creatures: 17
2 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Dark Confidant
1 Grinning Demon
4 Juzam Djinn
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
1 Phyrexian Scuta
1 Plague Sliver
1 Diamond Valley
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Strip Mine
14 Swamp
Spells: 15
3 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Tendrils of Agony
3 Thoughtseize
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Abyssal Persecutor
1 Cabal Therapy
1 Chalice Of The Void
1 Damnation
2 Diabolic Edict
2 Guardian Beast
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Tendrils Of Agony
1 Thoughseize
Or...
Should I not run the Voids for obvious reasons regarding space, and the fact that they would potentially cripple my Power 9's and Lotus Petal? If yes...
-3 Chalice of the Void
-1 Grim Monolith
+1 Black Lotus
+1 Cabal Therapy
+1 Mox Jet
+1 Thoughtseize
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Jet
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
Creatures: 17
2 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Dark Confidant
1 Grinning Demon
4 Juzam Djinn
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
1 Phyrexian Scuta
1 Plague Sliver
1 Diamond Valley
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Strip Mine
14 Swamp
Spells: 17
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Intent
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Thoughtseize
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Chalice Of The Void
1 Damnation
2 Diabolic Edict
1 Grim Monolith
2 Guardian Beast
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Tendrils Of Agony
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