Grumgully is really good but Rythmn of the wild is better and too similar for my liking so I wouldn't want two multicolour cards that do something so similar.
Grumgully is really good but Rythmn of the wild is better and too similar for my liking so I wouldn't want two multicolour cards that do something so similar.
What kind of mana are you running in your cube to support cards that cost CCC? That's a heavy price to pay for build-your-own nessian courser.
Clockwork Servant seems worth it, but Henge Walker is a doubly strictly worse Cathodian. I see no reason to play it. Even if you don't have a Cathodian lying around, the payoff seems highly mediocre.
But I might play Clockwork Servant myself. I love a good cantrip.
Clockwork Servant is a three drop you can't play on turn three ~65% of the time (with 9 mana sources in a single color) unless you want to play a creature that wouldn't even make it into a 720 pauper cube. And if you play him late the cantrip will hardly make up for the then almost useless creature. From my pov it's a terrible card.
I agree that Henge Walker is even worse though, like already mentioned it's a really bad version of Cathodion, which is hardly a CU/be staple.
I mean you can play it turn 3 if you just need a dude, it's in the nature of my cube that my artifact deck is mono-white, I know that is a little odd but that is actually how it shakes out.
ah you are right about the henge walker, I just like the idea of mono-coloured artifact creatures
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I love Baird, Steward of Argive, and this seems better. Pro white is a nice little upside. I might just play both. Or I might split them into my two cubes.
I'm so irritated that we are witnessing the revival of protection from a color in standard. As an ardent member of the "color of my opponent's stuff shouldn't matter in draft" club, I have to pass.
I'm so irritated that we are witnessing the revival of protection from a color in standard. As an ardent member of the "color of my opponent's stuff shouldn't matter in draft" club, I have to pass.
You have to admit not judging cards by the color of their casting cost is a pretty radical idea
Overwhelmed Apprentice is U for a 1/2 with Scry 2, mill your opponents for 2. That seems really good for just one mana. It falls in a similar space to Omenspeaker and Faerie Seer but with added mill, so I'm curious how many people switch to it.
The mill is rather useless in a cube that doesn't support mill as an archetype since you can't target yourself with it and I like a 1/1 flyer more than a 1/2 without flying. It's a nice card though.
Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw is pretty good. I may replace Pianna, Nomad Captain with him since he can actually survive an attack and 1WW cost is hard to cast on curve anyway. But I really need more playable three drops in white...
If the apprentice said "target player" or "each", I might have been interested. But a grounded 1/2 is so useless, I'd probably still run the likes of Omenspeaker and Sigiled Starfish, that can actually contribute in combat.
I agree with Leelue on protection. As I understand, Play Design like it as a tool to balance Standard (sometimes you need a blunt instrument, I guess), but I wish they could have kept them at rare if needed for constructed.
Sorcerer's Broom gets you unlimited sacrifice-fodder for 3 per body. And it's colourless. And it can be a dumb blocker early when you face the aggressive decks. I don't have a dedicated sacrifice archetype, but this seems close for those that do?
The mill is rather useless in a cube that doesn't support mill as an archetype since you can't target yourself with it and I like a 1/1 flyer more than a 1/2 without flying. It's a nice card though.
Yeah, I personally plan to keep Faerie Seer, but it's interesting how many options we have here, where once there was just Omenspeaker (and Augury Owl).
Huh. I was always a fan of protection in cube. I like color hate, but I don't wanna spend slots on sideboard cards. Scuttlemutt for the win!
I'm underwhelmed by Overwhelmed Apprentice as a one-off. If it hit any player, that would be different. I've found that one-offs don't do very well in mill-- you need repeatable effects to compound what amounts to no advantage into an inexorable doom.
I don't find Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw very exciting, but it could be worth it if white is a go-wide color. I think it's better than Pianna, but I never gave that card a second glance, and I never felt a lack of good white 3-drops.
Sorcerer's Broom requires you to have sacrifices in your deck to be worthwhile, which is a tough sell, but it can be really fun if you have the archetype. Nevertheless, something like Filigree Familiar does support the archetype better, since it's good without your sac outlets. Still a nifty card.
I think I might add Syr Faren, the Hengehammer. I like the design there though, I suppose it is just going to be worse than a Stranglegeist? Unsure here. The main reason I cut Stranglegeist from my 'colour intensive slots' was that it is an almost pure aggro card (though, I suppose you could block with it twice in other decks) and green-heavy aggro was hardly a thing. Hengehammer feels like it might interact more with other cards and have some usefulness even later in the game as a means to push something else through.
How do you guys think Syr Allin compares to Elite Scaleguard? A 4/4 first strike that anthems my team seems like a better curve topper to me.
Seems mostly worse than pianna, nomad captain, if you want the anthem effect. I think the scaleguard tapping ability occupies an entirely different niche.
4/4 first strike that does actual nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize, you mean?
It's not like Elite Scaleguard is killing it the turn he comes into play outside of +1/+1 decks and a 5 cmc card has no business in a super fast aggro deck either. I wouldn't cut Scaleguard, but mainly because I support counters as an archetype or at least as synergy. I think in a random midrange token/go wide deck Syr Allin is better as both the body and the anthem effect are stronger than Scaleguard and his ability. Only true downside is that Allin can get removed without doing anything, but at least he's burn proof.
Scaleguard is a more interesting card and he's nuts with Relief Captain and similar cards, but on his own he's just ok and not better than Syr Allin.
EDIT: Also, 'when you put it that way' then Cloudgoat Ranger, Custody Squire, Calciderm or Sentinel of the Eternal Watch also do actually nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize. It's comparing apples with oranges.
Seems mostly worse than pianna, nomad captain, if you want the anthem effect. I think the scaleguard tapping ability occupies an entirely different niche.
How is he worse? A 3/3 is very easy to block and kill while a 4/4 first strike is extremely hard to block and kill. The whole point of this type of anthem ability on a body is that you can use it repeatedly. And casting a 1WW card on curve is hard outside of mono white decks, so it's not like Pianna has a big speed advantage either.
I wouldn't cut Elite Scaleguard for Syr Allin, but I think he's very playable and one of the best anthem effects we have so far.
Grumgully, the Generous is the 5th? combo piece we have with persist, which more than enough to make it a fully fledged archetype if you want to support it. If there's a good sac engine in GWR it could definitely be consistent.
Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw has a pretty serious issue of being alone when you cast it as it's so slow. It's 2 full turns slower than Kongming, Pianna, and Soltari Champion, which is a high cost to put additional stats on an already high priority target for removal. Even ignoring playing them on curve, being able to play something in addition to Pianna or Soltari Champion is huge. He's also a full turn slower than Scaleguard who is often better on smaller boards than larger ones and is much better into removal. I don't think Syr Alin fits in the more aggressive token shells at all and isn't enough better in the slower shells to justify including, as he isn't that much harder to kill outside of combat, which is the main issue with the 2/2 versions.
4/4 first strike that does actual nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize, you mean?
Well, when you put it that way... lol
I think the 4/4 first strike body just looks more appealing than the 2/3 Scaleguard. You're probably right, though. Scaleguard has been pretty good here.
Shepherd of the Flock seems a little below Kor Skyfisher, but still a powerful card. There's been talk about it on the main cube page, but I think Peasant is the natural home of this peasant.
Is there any functional reason why peasants and nobles exist? Or are they prepping for tribal in the next set?
I think this new card is once again interesting enough to look at. Combining two very conditional things at opposite ends of the spectrum (3/1 is a bad draw late, saving a guy is dead early) probably rounds out to a good magic card.
My main problem with Shepherd of the Flock is as you say, they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. You want to hold Usher to Safety for the right moment, but you wanna cast the Shepherd on curve, and you aren't getting full value that way (which will make some greedy players hold it when they should cast it).
So this card seems great:
Enchantment Beast Within, but cheaper and you draw a card. I want this in both of my cubes.
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Grumgully is really good but Rythmn of the wild is better and too similar for my liking so I wouldn't want two multicolour cards that do something so similar.
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What kind of mana are you running in your cube to support cards that cost CCC? That's a heavy price to pay for build-your-own nessian courser.
But I might play Clockwork Servant myself. I love a good cantrip.
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I agree that Henge Walker is even worse though, like already mentioned it's a really bad version of Cathodion, which is hardly a CU/be staple.
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ah you are right about the henge walker, I just like the idea of mono-coloured artifact creatures
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I love Baird, Steward of Argive, and this seems better. Pro white is a nice little upside. I might just play both. Or I might split them into my two cubes.
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Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw is pretty good. I may replace Pianna, Nomad Captain with him since he can actually survive an attack and 1WW cost is hard to cast on curve anyway. But I really need more playable three drops in white...
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I agree with Leelue on protection. As I understand, Play Design like it as a tool to balance Standard (sometimes you need a blunt instrument, I guess), but I wish they could have kept them at rare if needed for constructed.
Sorcerer's Broom gets you unlimited sacrifice-fodder for 3 per body. And it's colourless. And it can be a dumb blocker early when you face the aggressive decks. I don't have a dedicated sacrifice archetype, but this seems close for those that do?
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I'm underwhelmed by Overwhelmed Apprentice as a one-off. If it hit any player, that would be different. I've found that one-offs don't do very well in mill-- you need repeatable effects to compound what amounts to no advantage into an inexorable doom.
I don't find Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw very exciting, but it could be worth it if white is a go-wide color. I think it's better than Pianna, but I never gave that card a second glance, and I never felt a lack of good white 3-drops.
Sorcerer's Broom requires you to have sacrifices in your deck to be worthwhile, which is a tough sell, but it can be really fun if you have the archetype. Nevertheless, something like Filigree Familiar does support the archetype better, since it's good without your sac outlets. Still a nifty card.
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Seems mostly worse than pianna, nomad captain, if you want the anthem effect. I think the scaleguard tapping ability occupies an entirely different niche.
4/4 first strike that does actual nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize, you mean?
It's not like Elite Scaleguard is killing it the turn he comes into play outside of +1/+1 decks and a 5 cmc card has no business in a super fast aggro deck either. I wouldn't cut Scaleguard, but mainly because I support counters as an archetype or at least as synergy. I think in a random midrange token/go wide deck Syr Allin is better as both the body and the anthem effect are stronger than Scaleguard and his ability. Only true downside is that Allin can get removed without doing anything, but at least he's burn proof.
Scaleguard is a more interesting card and he's nuts with Relief Captain and similar cards, but on his own he's just ok and not better than Syr Allin.
EDIT: Also, 'when you put it that way' then Cloudgoat Ranger, Custody Squire, Calciderm or Sentinel of the Eternal Watch also do actually nothing until your opponent gets a whole extra turn to stabilize. It's comparing apples with oranges.
How is he worse? A 3/3 is very easy to block and kill while a 4/4 first strike is extremely hard to block and kill. The whole point of this type of anthem ability on a body is that you can use it repeatedly. And casting a 1WW card on curve is hard outside of mono white decks, so it's not like Pianna has a big speed advantage either.
I wouldn't cut Elite Scaleguard for Syr Allin, but I think he's very playable and one of the best anthem effects we have so far.
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syr allin is worse than the cheaper anthem effects imo, but a 4/4 first striker is a big boy. i think we have better curve toppers still.
syr faren looks sick. it is gg but i think the effect is super powerful, and a good role player in green aggro.
sorcerer's broom is a card that i like a lot, but 3 mana is a ton. i could see myself finding room for it.
Syr Alin, the Lion's Claw has a pretty serious issue of being alone when you cast it as it's so slow. It's 2 full turns slower than Kongming, Pianna, and Soltari Champion, which is a high cost to put additional stats on an already high priority target for removal. Even ignoring playing them on curve, being able to play something in addition to Pianna or Soltari Champion is huge. He's also a full turn slower than Scaleguard who is often better on smaller boards than larger ones and is much better into removal. I don't think Syr Alin fits in the more aggressive token shells at all and isn't enough better in the slower shells to justify including, as he isn't that much harder to kill outside of combat, which is the main issue with the 2/2 versions.
Syr Faren, the Hedgehammer seems decent, but CC on a somewhat conditional bear is always worrying.
Well, when you put it that way... lol
I think the 4/4 first strike body just looks more appealing than the 2/3 Scaleguard. You're probably right, though. Scaleguard has been pretty good here.
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The green syr is not interesting to me. As the turn two play with no one drop he's really bad.
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I think this new card is once again interesting enough to look at. Combining two very conditional things at opposite ends of the spectrum (3/1 is a bad draw late, saving a guy is dead early) probably rounds out to a good magic card.
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So this card seems great:
Enchantment Beast Within, but cheaper and you draw a card. I want this in both of my cubes.
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