So in a sense, choosing an arbitrary number of generals is a moot point since I will likely include more within the cube itself. So really I have three options when it comes to generals: I either seed them like Wildfire does, make general draft packs, or just throw everything in the cube and let fate take its course.
I think so. I have never treated generals as anything but cards in the cube and have never had any issues at all. The guys that I draft with know how to draft and understand prioritizing, so having separate generals takes away from some of the strategy of drafting.
In contrast to Galspanic, I play with a lot of new-to-edh, lapsed, and fair weather magic players, so leading them a bit by the hand with a generals-only draft is helpful for my group!
Yeah, I didn't know how to put it - I have some of the most idiotic cutthroat people that play here so the idea of making some things easier and less obscured doesn't really work.
Update: Starting to pull cards. First completed section is the generals. I'm slowly acquiring the missing generals and have decided I'll proxy the couple that are expensive and eventually get real copies.
So are you going with a discrete generals draft phase AND having some multicolored legends in the cube? I notices 2 simic generals + zegana in your simic section.
So are you going with a discrete generals draft phase AND having some multicolored legends in the cube? I notices 2 simic generals + zegana in your simic section.
Yes. The idea will be that the draft generals will be more build around but the ones in the actual cube are more generic goodstuff that work well either in the command zone or the 99.
I've finally got the first draft built to a point where I want to start testing it, and have an even balance of everything colorwise. So I'd like to have any thoughts from people who already cube for cards which I should be keeping an eye on for how they perform, as well as cards I should consider adding. Making cuts to this was even harder than building a Commander deck can be.
I use a PC, so my apologies if this won't work for a mac...
dump your entire cube list into a rich text format, remove quantities and subheadings from your list, and make sure each individual card occupies its own line. Save the txt file, and then you can upload it to cube tutor. It'll spit out an error report on cards that were problematic (misspelled, or misplaced commas, etc). Once you've cleaned up the errors, it's best to do a second, manual spot check, in case some similarly-spelled card gets added/removed accidentally. Finally, you can go into the "edit list" section and manually change the color identity, cmc, etc for your cards, that they show up in the sections you wan them to.
That's about as simple an explanation as I can provide. Feel free to PM me, if things don't work out and you still have some questions!
If either wildfire, galspanic, or my cube is somewhat close to yours content-wise, you can always export, re-upload the text, and then sculpt it into the shape of yours. Might save you a couple hours!
Heya Cryogen! As someone who just went through the pain of copying my whole EDH cube over to cubetutor, I figured I'd save you the effort of picking through fixing things to get it right. Just copy the spoiler below, put it in a notepad document. Save and use cubetutor's bulk upload. Everything's spelled correctly and it'll all upload properly nothing needs to be added, I tested it. However, I should note that you have 3 more cards than you think you do. A red sorcery, a black sorcery, and a blue instant. (You also only have 34 green creatures, but green still adds up to 70 anyway.)
1 Mother of Runes
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 Grand Abolisher
2 Knight of the White Orchid
2 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Suture Priest
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Wall of Omens
3 Aven Mindcensor
3 Fiend Hunter
3 Mentor of the Meek
3 Mirror Entity
3 Stonecloaker
4 Academy Rector
4 Angel of Finality
4 Emeria Angel
4 False Prophet
4 Heliod, God of the Sun
4 Kor Cartographer
4 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
4 Loxodon Gatekeeper
4 Odric, Master Tactician
4 Restoration Angel
4 Sublime Archangel
4 Wall of Reverence
5 Baneslayer Angel
5 Blinding Angel
5 Karmic Guide
5 Reveillark
5 Stonehewer Giant
6 Sun Titan
6 Yosei, the Morning Star
7 Angelic Arbiter
7 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Land Tax
2 Blind Obedience
2 Luminarch Ascension
3 Aura of Silence
3 Ghostly Prison
3 Gift of Immortality
3 Karmic Justice
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Angelic Destiny
4 Lightmine Field
4 Marshal's Anthem
6 True Conviction
1 Condemn
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Tithe
3 Oblation
4 Faith's Reward
4 Return to Dust
2 Balance
3 Idyllic Tutor
4 Armageddon
4 Day of Judgment
4 Wrath of God
5 Rout
6 Akroma's Vengeance
6 Austere Command
6 Terminus
4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
5 Gideon Jura
0 Kor Haven
0 Mistveil Plains
0 Secluded Steppe
0 Serra's Sanctum
3 Proteus Staff
2 Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
2 Fog Bank
2 Gilded Drake
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Willbender
3 Drift of Phantasms
3 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
3 Thassa, God of the Sea
4 Archaeomancer
4 Clone
4 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Lu Xun, Scholar General
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Slithermuse
4 Venser, Shaper Savant
5 Body Double
5 Chromeshell Crab
5 Mulldrifter
5 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
6 Consecrated Sphinx
6 Deadeye Navigator
6 Roil Elemental
6 Sphinx of Magosi
7 Diluvian Primordial
7 Palinchron
7 Sphinx of Uthuun
8 Kederekt Leviathan
10 Deep-Sea Kraken
1 Mystic Remora
3 Propaganda
3 Rhystic Study
4 Control Magic
5 Leyline of Anticipation
0 Pact of Negation
1 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Pongify
2 Arcane Denial
2 Counterspell
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Flash
3 Dissipate
3 Frantic Search
3 Ghostly Flicker
3 Hinder
3 Spell Crumple
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Turnabout
5 Desertion
5 Force of Will
6 Spelljack
7 Commandeer
3 Fabricate
3 Tinker
3 Windfall
4 Rite of Replication
5 Bribery
5 Devastation Tide
5 Time Warp
6 Recurring Insight
6 Spelltwine
6 Time Spiral
10 Time Stretch
2x Curse of the Swine
3 Jace Beleren
5 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
0 Academy Ruins
0 Halimar Depths
0 Lonely Sandbar
0 Tolaria West
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Hex Parasite
1 Viscera Seer
2 Blood Artist
2 Nether Traitor
2 Nezumi Graverobber
2 Reassembling Skeleton
2 Withered Wretch
3 Bone Shredder
3 Coffin Queen
3 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Disciple of Bolas
4 Graveborn Muse
4 Mindslicer
5 Bloodgift Demon
5 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
5 Phyrexian Delver
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Sadistic Hypnotist
5 Shriekmaw
5 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
6 Geth, Lord of the Vault
6 Grave Titan
6 Harvester of Souls
6 Kokusho, the Evening Star
6 Massacre Wurm
6 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
6 Netherborn Phalanx
7 Butcher of Malakir
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
7 Sepulchral Primordial
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
3 Dauthi Embrace
3 Necromancy
3 Necropotence
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Recurring Nightmare
4 Grave Pact
4 Greed
4 Leyline of the Void
4 No Mercy
5 Black Market
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Diabolic Edict
2 Doom Blade
2 Go for the Throat
3 Dismember
1 Reanimate
2 Demonic Tutor
2 Hymn to Tourach
3 Ashes to Ashes
3 Buried Alive
4 Damnation
4 Diabolic Tutor
4 Syphon Mind
5 Beacon of Unrest
5 Increasing Ambition
5 Living Death
8 Decree of Pain
1x Mind Twist
2x Exsanguinate
3x Death Cloud
5 Liliana Vess
0 Barren Moor
0 Bojuka Bog
0 Cabal Coffers
0 Phyrexian Tower
0 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
1 Goblin Welder
2 Dwarven Miner
2 Goblin Recruiter
2 Stingscourger
3 Goblin Matron
3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Taurean Mauler
3 Tuktuk the Explorer
3 Viashino Heretic
4 Anger
4 Avalanche Riders
4 Krenko, Mob Boss
4 Moggcatcher
4 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Tuktuk Scrapper
5 Galvanoth
5 Hoarding Dragon
5 Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
5 Keldon Firebombers
5 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
5 Malignus
5 Mindclaw Shaman
5 Siege-Gang Commander
5 Urabrask the Hidden
5 Zealous Conscripts
6 Conquering Manticore
6 Flameblast Dragon
6 Goblin Marshal
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
6 Homura, Human Ascendant
6 Inferno Titan
7 Balefire Dragon
7 Molten Primordial
7 Tyrant of Discord
8 Avatar of Fury
10 Greater Gargadon
3 Aggravated Assault
3 Blood Moon
3 Goblin War Drums
3 Price of Glory
4 AEther Flash
4 Stranglehold
5 Gratuitous Violence
5 In the Web of War
5 Possibility Storm
7 Vicious Shadows
2 Reverberate
2 Shattering Pulse
3 Chaos Warp
3 Reiterate
4 Grab the Reins
4 Wild Ricochet
5 Word of Seizing
1x Outmaneuver
1 Faithless Looting
1 Gamble
1 Vandalblast
1 Winds of Change
3 Wheel of Fortune
4 Aftershock
4 Past in Flames
4 Relentless Assault
4 Ruination
5 Ignite Memories
5 Mass Mutiny
5 Mogg Infestation
5 Reforge the Soul
8 Insurrection
9 Blasphemous Act
0 Forgotten Cave
0 Kher Keep
4 Birthing Pod
1 Birds of Paradise
2 Bloom Tender
2 Elvish Visionary
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Hermit Druid
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Wall of Blossoms
3 Dosan the Falling Leaf
3 Eternal Witness
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Fertilid
3 Fierce Empath
3 Yavimaya Elder
3 Yavimaya Granger
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Wickerbough Elder
5 Acidic Slime
5 Genesis
5 Nessian Game Warden
5 Seedborn Muse
6 Bane of Progress
6 Brutalizer Exarch
6 Deadwood Treefolk
6 Hydra Omnivore
6 Rampaging Baloths
6 Soul of the Harvest
7 Avenger of Zendikar
7 Protean Hulk
7 Sylvan Primordial
8 Craterhoof Behemoth
8 Terastodon
8 Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
8 Woodfall Primus
1 Exploration
1 Mirri's Guile
2 Sylvan Library
3 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Defense of the Heart
4 Greater Good
4 Asceticism
5 Perilous Forays
6 Lurking Predators
1 Crop Rotation
1 Nature's Claim
1 Worldly Tutor
2 Constant Mists
2 Deglamer
2 Naturalize
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
4 Momentous Fall
0 Hypergenesis
2 Explore
2 Life from the Loam
2 Rampant Growth
2 Regrowth
3 Cultivate
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Explosive Vegetation
5 Creeping Renaissance
5 Overwhelming Stampede
7 Tooth and Nail
1x Green Sun's Zenith
3x Genesis Wave
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
0 Mosswort Bridge
0 Tranquil Thicket
0 Yavimaya Hollow
0 Azorius Chancery
0 Celestial Colonnade
0 Glacial Fortress
0 Hallowed Fountain
0 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Azorius Guildmage
2 Azorius Signet
2 Mistmeadow Witch
3 Azorius Keyrune
4 Brago, King Eternal
4 Ephara, God of the Polis
4 Supreme Verdict
5 Venser, the Sojourner
6 Medomai the Ageless
7 Drogskol Reaver
0 Creeping Tar Pit
0 Dimir Aqueduct
0 Drowned Catacomb
0 Temple of Deceit
0 Watery Grave
2 Baleful Strix
2 Dimir Signet
2 Lim-Dul's Vault
2 Shadow of Doubt
3 Dimir Keyrune
3 Shadowmage Infiltrator
4 Evil Twin
4 Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
5 Ghastlord of Fugue
8 Mindleech Mass
0 Blood Crypt
0 Dragonskull Summit
0 Graven Cairns
0 Rakdos Carnarium
0 Temple of Malice
2 Rakdos Charm
2 Rakdos Signet
2 Terminate
3 Rakdos Keyrune
4 Murderous Redcap
4 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
4 Wort, Boggart Auntie
5 Skull Rend
7 Bladewing the Risen
8 Din of the Fireherd
0 Gruul Turf
0 Kessig Wolf Run
0 Raging Ravine
0 Rootbound Crag
0 Stomping Ground
0 Temple of Abandon
2 Gruul Signet
2 Hull Breach
2 Vexing Shusher
3 Gruul Keyrune
3 Mage Slayer
4 Spellbreaker Behemoth
4 Ulasht, the Hate Seed
6 Dragon Broodmother
7 Gruul Ragebeast
0 Selesnya Sanctuary
0 Stirring Wildwood
0 Sunpetal Grove
0 Temple Garden
0 Temple of Plenty
2 Eladamri's Call
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Saffi Eriksdotter
2 Selesnya Signet
3 Aura Shards
3 Selesnya Keyrune
3 Behemoth Sledge
3 Harmonic Sliver
5 Karametra, God of Harvests
5 Mirari's Wake
0 Godless Shrine
0 Isolated Chapel
0 Orzhov Basilica
0 Temple of Silence
0 Vault of the Archangel
2 Orzhov Signet
3 Orzhov Keyrune
3 Vindicate
4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
5 Divinity of Pride
5 Unburial Rites
6 Merciless Eviction
7 Angel of Despair
7 Debtors' Knell
7 Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
0 Desolate Lighthouse
0 Izzet Boilerworks
0 Steam Vents
0 Sulfur Falls
0 Temple of Epiphany
2 Izzet Signet
2 Nin, the Pain Artist
3 Izzet Keyrune
4 Dack's Duplicate
4 Ral Zarek
5 Hypersonic Dragon
5 Izzet Chronarch
5 Mercurial Chemister
6 Etherium-Horn Sorcerer
6 Niv-MIzzet, the Firemind
0 Golgari Rot Farm
0 Llanowar Wastes
0 Overgrown Tomb
0 Temple of Malady
0 Woodland Cemetery
2 Golgari Signet
2 Necrogenesis
2 Skullbriar, the Walking Grave
3 Golgari Keyrune
3 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Putrefy
4 Creakwood Liege
4 Garruk Relentless
5 Lord of Extinction
5 Vraska the Unseen
0 Battlefield Forge
0 Boros Garrison
0 Clifftop Retreat
0 Sacred Foundry
0 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
0 Temple of Triumph
2 Boros Charm
2 Boros Signet
2 Wear // Tear
3 Boros Keyrune
3 Sunforger
4 Brion Stoutarm
5 Assemble the Legion
5 Balefire Liege
7 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
0 Alchemist's Refuge
0 Breeding Pool
0 Hinterland Harbor
0 Simic Growth Chamber
0 Temple of Mystery
0 Yavimaya Coast
2 Simic Signet
3 Cold-Eyed Selkie
3 Simic Keyrune
3 Trygon Predator
3 Voidslime
4 Mystic Snake
5 Murkfiend Liege
6 Prime Speaker Zegana
6 Spitting Image
8 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
8 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
7 Charnelhoard Wurm
7 titanic ultimatum
5 Finest Hour
4 Fervent Charge
8 Maelstrom Wanderer
6 Teneb, the Harvester
2 Odds // Ends
6 Vorosh, the Hunter
2 Walking Atlas
3 Burnished Hart
3 Junk Diver
3 Pilgrim's Eye
4 Arcbound Reclaimer
4 Solemn Simulacrum
6 Duplicant
6 Steel Hellkite
6 Thopter Assembly
6 Wurmcoil Engine
9 Artisan of Kozilek
10 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
11 Darksteel Colossus
11 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
12 It That Betrays
0 Everflowing Chalice
0 Tormod's Crypt
1 Brittle Effigy
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Expedition Map
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 sensei's divining top
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Isochron Scepter
2 Journeyer's Kite
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Nim Deathmantle
2 Scroll Rack
2 Swiftfoot Boots
2 Torpor Orb
3 Ashnod's Altar
3 Chromatic Lantern
3 Coalition Relic
3 Crawlspace
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Crystal Ball
3 Darksteel Ingot
3 Darksteel Plate
3 Loxodon Warhammer
3 Mimic Vat
3 Oblivion Stone
3 Phyrexian Altar
3 Rings of Brighthearth
3 Sculpting Steel
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Sword of War and Peace
3 Whispersilk Cloak
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
4 Nevinyrral's Disk
5 Batterskull
5 Conjurer's Closet
5 Gauntlet of Power
5 Gilded Lotus
5 Memory Jar
5 Mind's Eye
5 Panoptic Mirror
6 Caged Sun
6 Mindslaver
7 All Is Dust
0 Ancient Tomb
0 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
0 Buried Ruin
0 Cathedral of War
0 City of Brass
0 Command Tower
0 Evolving Wilds
0 High Market
0 Hall of the Bandit Lord
0 Homeward Path
0 Inkmoth Nexus
0 Library of Alexandria
0 Maze of Ith
0 Mystifying Maze
0 Opal Palace
0 Reflecting Pool
0 Reliquary Tower
0 Rogue's Passage
0 Strip Mine
0 Tectonic Edge
0 Temple of the False God
0 Terramorphic Expanse
0 Thawing Glaciers
0 Thespian's Stage
0 Tower of the Magistrate
0 Vesuva
0 Winding Canyons
It'll have a whole bunch of numbers in the leftovers box; you don't need to go through I already made sure everything was spelled right and uploaded right.
EDIT: Oh yeah, you'll also need to move things around to match color identities if you want it to list things under the right categories. Cubetutor just uses whatever color magic says it is. (You can do that in the edit list menu)
Hey thanks! You're quite awesome. I went through and updated the list in the first post, and uploaded the correct list to Cubetutor (after creating an account). The link is here.
Edit: I also added a link in the first post to Cubetutor, and I added a list of cards that I would like to be able to fit into the cube.
Hey thanks! You're quite awesome. I went through and updated the list in the first post, and uploaded the correct list to Cubetutor (after creating an account). The link is here.
Edit: I also added a link in the first post to Cubetutor, and I added a list of cards that I would like to be able to fit into the cube.
Shweet. I tested it out because the list looked like fun. Something to remember: You're gonna need to put up a seperate cube with just the generals so that you can draft them separately. For the moment I just picked one, because I wanted to see how Nath turned out. Looks like fun, not so much discard support, but I suppose Nath doesn't need as much discard support as token stuff. http://cubetutor.com/cubedeck/158131
Hey thanks! You're quite awesome. I went through and updated the list in the first post, and uploaded the correct list to Cubetutor (after creating an account). The link is here.
Edit: I also added a link in the first post to Cubetutor, and I added a list of cards that I would like to be able to fit into the cube.
Shweet. I tested it out because the list looked like fun. Something to remember: You're gonna need to put up a seperate cube with just the generals so that you can draft them separately. For the moment I just picked one, because I wanted to see how Nath turned out. Looks like fun, not so much discard support, but I suppose Nath doesn't need as much discard support as token stuff. http://cubetutor.com/cubedeck/158131
I added the 40 generals to the cube, so they'll have to be drafted in with the rest of the cube.
What you mentioned about Nath not having much support is something that worries me. I want to try and seed the cube with cards that will probably not be a high pick unless you're that general, as well as fill the cube with goodstuff. But finding that balance of good cards that can support generals is tough.
I was comparing yours to mine and wildfire's cubes using the "compare" function on cubetutor. I'm still pretty blown away by how diverse and varied edh can be ~ I was expecting a lot more overlap with at least 1 of the cubes.
I was comparing yours to mine and wildfire's cubes using the "compare" function on cubetutor. I'm still pretty blown away by how diverse and varied edh can be ~ I was expecting a lot more overlap with at least 1 of the cubes.
Yeah you would think that the commanders would dictate the tone, and there are only so many goodstuff cards you can include. I guess collections seen big enough that it is easy to avoid net decking.
I've slowly been making small adjustments. I will do a final check of this thread and cube tutor tonight and also fix the color identities there. However, I am finally going to draft it tomorrow night, so starting then I will begin keeping a change log. I read Abe Sargent's SCG article ad like the idea of dropping the three color cards within the cube so I may do that.
I would recommend against running the three color cards in the Cube (apart from the generals themselves)
There aren't any truly great ones for the wedges, which means you end up running crap like Vorosh, the Hunter or Bound//Determined, which, yeah.
Even if you run ones that are strong enough that someone is going to want to draft them, you'll find that they are pretty much guaranteed to wheel because there's almost certainly only one player in any given triad. And even on the wheel, if you're getting it on the early wheel (like pick 9), a lot of the time you'll pass it up in favor of another card, at which point it becomes a last pick that won't even remotely have a chance at being included.
I ran 3 per Shard and 1 per wedge when I started, mostly because I wanted to fit in several specific cards (like Wargate, Finest Hour, and Bant Charm in Bant). After a couple of drafts, I dropped it to 1 per Shard 1 per Wedge. After a few more drafts, I cut them entirely.
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I cut them entirely myself and have never been tempted to go back.
I've been drafting your cube a bunch on cubetutor, Cryogen. It looks good, and I bet you'll have a blast on your maiden draft!
It's hard but I'm thinking I gotta as well. The part that kills me is losing breaking // entering because some part of me just really loves that card. Everything else is acceptable losses. It's probably for the best though. (For myself and Cryogen)
Also Cryogen thanks for sending me Thromok through Pucatrade. That brings me down to just Kaalia on my list of generals I actually have to get. (Of course she has to be the most expensive general on the list...) Actually Kaalia is gonna be the last proxy in the entire cube now!
Well the first cube run went well. We ends up drafting 7 packs and building 100 card decks since it was just four of us. The consensus was that the three color cards need to go, for exactly the reason you all said. One person didn't like the time magic (I have Time Warp and Stretch), but that was probably because the Riki deck managed to draft, cast, and copy both of them. I didn't see any cards that were problems, so I'll either swap the three color cards for five mono and five colorless or ten dual color cards.
I'm slowly acquiring more cards to increase the variety, and once I get all the fetches I will add them.
@ SCDL - I'll send your stuff out Monday morning. I also need a Kaalia to replace the proxy, plus Tariel. Then eventually I can get a Library of Alexandria.
I think so. I have never treated generals as anything but cards in the cube and have never had any issues at all. The guys that I draft with know how to draft and understand prioritizing, so having separate generals takes away from some of the strategy of drafting.
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"Personally I love high-riak, low-reqars gambles. Life's best with a decent amount of riak. And f*** reqars."
Yes. The idea will be that the draft generals will be more build around but the ones in the actual cube are more generic goodstuff that work well either in the command zone or the 99.
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No how do I do that and please tell me there's an easy way to import it from here.
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dump your entire cube list into a rich text format, remove quantities and subheadings from your list, and make sure each individual card occupies its own line. Save the txt file, and then you can upload it to cube tutor. It'll spit out an error report on cards that were problematic (misspelled, or misplaced commas, etc). Once you've cleaned up the errors, it's best to do a second, manual spot check, in case some similarly-spelled card gets added/removed accidentally. Finally, you can go into the "edit list" section and manually change the color identity, cmc, etc for your cards, that they show up in the sections you wan them to.
That's about as simple an explanation as I can provide. Feel free to PM me, if things don't work out and you still have some questions!
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1 Serra Ascendant
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 Grand Abolisher
2 Knight of the White Orchid
2 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Suture Priest
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2 Wall of Omens
3 Aven Mindcensor
3 Fiend Hunter
3 Mentor of the Meek
3 Mirror Entity
3 Stonecloaker
4 Academy Rector
4 Angel of Finality
4 Emeria Angel
4 False Prophet
4 Heliod, God of the Sun
4 Kor Cartographer
4 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
4 Loxodon Gatekeeper
4 Odric, Master Tactician
4 Restoration Angel
4 Sublime Archangel
4 Wall of Reverence
5 Baneslayer Angel
5 Blinding Angel
5 Karmic Guide
5 Reveillark
5 Stonehewer Giant
6 Sun Titan
6 Yosei, the Morning Star
7 Angelic Arbiter
7 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Land Tax
2 Blind Obedience
2 Luminarch Ascension
3 Aura of Silence
3 Ghostly Prison
3 Gift of Immortality
3 Karmic Justice
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Angelic Destiny
4 Lightmine Field
4 Marshal's Anthem
6 True Conviction
1 Condemn
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Tithe
3 Oblation
4 Faith's Reward
4 Return to Dust
2 Balance
3 Idyllic Tutor
4 Armageddon
4 Day of Judgment
4 Wrath of God
5 Rout
6 Akroma's Vengeance
6 Austere Command
6 Terminus
4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
5 Gideon Jura
0 Kor Haven
0 Mistveil Plains
0 Secluded Steppe
0 Serra's Sanctum
3 Proteus Staff
2 Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
2 Fog Bank
2 Gilded Drake
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Willbender
3 Drift of Phantasms
3 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
3 Thassa, God of the Sea
4 Archaeomancer
4 Clone
4 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Lu Xun, Scholar General
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Slithermuse
4 Venser, Shaper Savant
5 Body Double
5 Chromeshell Crab
5 Mulldrifter
5 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
6 Consecrated Sphinx
6 Deadeye Navigator
6 Roil Elemental
6 Sphinx of Magosi
7 Diluvian Primordial
7 Palinchron
7 Sphinx of Uthuun
8 Kederekt Leviathan
10 Deep-Sea Kraken
1 Mystic Remora
3 Propaganda
3 Rhystic Study
4 Control Magic
5 Leyline of Anticipation
0 Pact of Negation
1 Brainstorm
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Pongify
2 Arcane Denial
2 Counterspell
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Flash
3 Dissipate
3 Frantic Search
3 Ghostly Flicker
3 Hinder
3 Spell Crumple
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Turnabout
5 Desertion
5 Force of Will
6 Spelljack
7 Commandeer
3 Fabricate
3 Tinker
3 Windfall
4 Rite of Replication
5 Bribery
5 Devastation Tide
5 Time Warp
6 Recurring Insight
6 Spelltwine
6 Time Spiral
10 Time Stretch
2x Curse of the Swine
3 Jace Beleren
5 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage
0 Academy Ruins
0 Halimar Depths
0 Lonely Sandbar
0 Tolaria West
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Hex Parasite
1 Viscera Seer
2 Blood Artist
2 Nether Traitor
2 Nezumi Graverobber
2 Reassembling Skeleton
2 Withered Wretch
3 Bone Shredder
3 Coffin Queen
3 Fleshbag Marauder
4 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Disciple of Bolas
4 Graveborn Muse
4 Mindslicer
5 Bloodgift Demon
5 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
5 Phyrexian Delver
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Sadistic Hypnotist
5 Shriekmaw
5 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
6 Geth, Lord of the Vault
6 Grave Titan
6 Harvester of Souls
6 Kokusho, the Evening Star
6 Massacre Wurm
6 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
6 Netherborn Phalanx
7 Butcher of Malakir
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
7 Sepulchral Primordial
7 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
3 Dauthi Embrace
3 Necromancy
3 Necropotence
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Recurring Nightmare
4 Grave Pact
4 Greed
4 Leyline of the Void
4 No Mercy
5 Black Market
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Diabolic Edict
2 Doom Blade
2 Go for the Throat
3 Dismember
1 Reanimate
2 Demonic Tutor
2 Hymn to Tourach
3 Ashes to Ashes
3 Buried Alive
4 Damnation
4 Diabolic Tutor
4 Syphon Mind
5 Beacon of Unrest
5 Increasing Ambition
5 Living Death
8 Decree of Pain
1x Mind Twist
2x Exsanguinate
3x Death Cloud
5 Liliana Vess
0 Barren Moor
0 Bojuka Bog
0 Cabal Coffers
0 Phyrexian Tower
0 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
1 Goblin Welder
2 Dwarven Miner
2 Goblin Recruiter
2 Stingscourger
3 Goblin Matron
3 Squee, Goblin Nabob
3 Taurean Mauler
3 Tuktuk the Explorer
3 Viashino Heretic
4 Anger
4 Avalanche Riders
4 Krenko, Mob Boss
4 Moggcatcher
4 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Tuktuk Scrapper
5 Galvanoth
5 Hoarding Dragon
5 Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
5 Keldon Firebombers
5 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
5 Malignus
5 Mindclaw Shaman
5 Siege-Gang Commander
5 Urabrask the Hidden
5 Zealous Conscripts
6 Conquering Manticore
6 Flameblast Dragon
6 Goblin Marshal
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
6 Homura, Human Ascendant
6 Inferno Titan
7 Balefire Dragon
7 Molten Primordial
7 Tyrant of Discord
8 Avatar of Fury
10 Greater Gargadon
3 Aggravated Assault
3 Blood Moon
3 Goblin War Drums
3 Price of Glory
4 AEther Flash
4 Stranglehold
5 Gratuitous Violence
5 In the Web of War
5 Possibility Storm
7 Vicious Shadows
2 Reverberate
2 Shattering Pulse
3 Chaos Warp
3 Reiterate
4 Grab the Reins
4 Wild Ricochet
5 Word of Seizing
1x Outmaneuver
1 Faithless Looting
1 Gamble
1 Vandalblast
1 Winds of Change
3 Wheel of Fortune
4 Aftershock
4 Past in Flames
4 Relentless Assault
4 Ruination
5 Ignite Memories
5 Mass Mutiny
5 Mogg Infestation
5 Reforge the Soul
8 Insurrection
9 Blasphemous Act
0 Forgotten Cave
0 Kher Keep
4 Birthing Pod
1 Birds of Paradise
2 Bloom Tender
2 Elvish Visionary
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Hermit Druid
2 Sakura-Tribe Elder
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Wall of Blossoms
3 Dosan the Falling Leaf
3 Eternal Witness
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Fertilid
3 Fierce Empath
3 Yavimaya Elder
3 Yavimaya Granger
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Wickerbough Elder
5 Acidic Slime
5 Genesis
5 Nessian Game Warden
5 Seedborn Muse
6 Bane of Progress
6 Brutalizer Exarch
6 Deadwood Treefolk
6 Hydra Omnivore
6 Rampaging Baloths
6 Soul of the Harvest
7 Avenger of Zendikar
7 Protean Hulk
7 Sylvan Primordial
8 Craterhoof Behemoth
8 Terastodon
8 Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
8 Woodfall Primus
1 Exploration
1 Mirri's Guile
2 Sylvan Library
3 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Defense of the Heart
4 Greater Good
4 Asceticism
5 Perilous Forays
6 Lurking Predators
1 Crop Rotation
1 Nature's Claim
1 Worldly Tutor
2 Constant Mists
2 Deglamer
2 Naturalize
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
4 Momentous Fall
0 Hypergenesis
2 Explore
2 Life from the Loam
2 Rampant Growth
2 Regrowth
3 Cultivate
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Explosive Vegetation
5 Creeping Renaissance
5 Overwhelming Stampede
7 Tooth and Nail
1x Green Sun's Zenith
3x Genesis Wave
4 Garruk Wildspeaker
0 Mosswort Bridge
0 Tranquil Thicket
0 Yavimaya Hollow
0 Azorius Chancery
0 Celestial Colonnade
0 Glacial Fortress
0 Hallowed Fountain
0 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Azorius Guildmage
2 Azorius Signet
2 Mistmeadow Witch
3 Azorius Keyrune
4 Brago, King Eternal
4 Ephara, God of the Polis
4 Supreme Verdict
5 Venser, the Sojourner
6 Medomai the Ageless
7 Drogskol Reaver
0 Creeping Tar Pit
0 Dimir Aqueduct
0 Drowned Catacomb
0 Temple of Deceit
0 Watery Grave
2 Baleful Strix
2 Dimir Signet
2 Lim-Dul's Vault
2 Shadow of Doubt
3 Dimir Keyrune
3 Shadowmage Infiltrator
4 Evil Twin
4 Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
5 Ghastlord of Fugue
8 Mindleech Mass
0 Blood Crypt
0 Dragonskull Summit
0 Graven Cairns
0 Rakdos Carnarium
0 Temple of Malice
2 Rakdos Charm
2 Rakdos Signet
2 Terminate
3 Rakdos Keyrune
4 Murderous Redcap
4 Rakdos, Lord of Riots
4 Wort, Boggart Auntie
5 Skull Rend
7 Bladewing the Risen
8 Din of the Fireherd
0 Gruul Turf
0 Kessig Wolf Run
0 Raging Ravine
0 Rootbound Crag
0 Stomping Ground
0 Temple of Abandon
2 Gruul Signet
2 Hull Breach
2 Vexing Shusher
3 Gruul Keyrune
3 Mage Slayer
4 Spellbreaker Behemoth
4 Ulasht, the Hate Seed
6 Dragon Broodmother
7 Gruul Ragebeast
0 Selesnya Sanctuary
0 Stirring Wildwood
0 Sunpetal Grove
0 Temple Garden
0 Temple of Plenty
2 Eladamri's Call
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Saffi Eriksdotter
2 Selesnya Signet
3 Aura Shards
3 Selesnya Keyrune
3 Behemoth Sledge
3 Harmonic Sliver
5 Karametra, God of Harvests
5 Mirari's Wake
0 Godless Shrine
0 Isolated Chapel
0 Orzhov Basilica
0 Temple of Silence
0 Vault of the Archangel
2 Orzhov Signet
3 Orzhov Keyrune
3 Vindicate
4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
5 Divinity of Pride
5 Unburial Rites
6 Merciless Eviction
7 Angel of Despair
7 Debtors' Knell
7 Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
0 Desolate Lighthouse
0 Izzet Boilerworks
0 Steam Vents
0 Sulfur Falls
0 Temple of Epiphany
2 Izzet Signet
2 Nin, the Pain Artist
3 Izzet Keyrune
4 Dack's Duplicate
4 Ral Zarek
5 Hypersonic Dragon
5 Izzet Chronarch
5 Mercurial Chemister
6 Etherium-Horn Sorcerer
6 Niv-MIzzet, the Firemind
0 Golgari Rot Farm
0 Llanowar Wastes
0 Overgrown Tomb
0 Temple of Malady
0 Woodland Cemetery
2 Golgari Signet
2 Necrogenesis
2 Skullbriar, the Walking Grave
3 Golgari Keyrune
3 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Putrefy
4 Creakwood Liege
4 Garruk Relentless
5 Lord of Extinction
5 Vraska the Unseen
0 Battlefield Forge
0 Boros Garrison
0 Clifftop Retreat
0 Sacred Foundry
0 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
0 Temple of Triumph
2 Boros Charm
2 Boros Signet
2 Wear // Tear
3 Boros Keyrune
3 Sunforger
4 Brion Stoutarm
5 Assemble the Legion
5 Balefire Liege
7 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
0 Alchemist's Refuge
0 Breeding Pool
0 Hinterland Harbor
0 Simic Growth Chamber
0 Temple of Mystery
0 Yavimaya Coast
2 Simic Signet
3 Cold-Eyed Selkie
3 Simic Keyrune
3 Trygon Predator
3 Voidslime
4 Mystic Snake
5 Murkfiend Liege
6 Prime Speaker Zegana
6 Spitting Image
8 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
8 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
7 Charnelhoard Wurm
7 titanic ultimatum
5 Finest Hour
4 Fervent Charge
8 Maelstrom Wanderer
6 Teneb, the Harvester
2 Odds // Ends
6 Vorosh, the Hunter
2 Walking Atlas
3 Burnished Hart
3 Junk Diver
3 Pilgrim's Eye
4 Arcbound Reclaimer
4 Solemn Simulacrum
6 Duplicant
6 Steel Hellkite
6 Thopter Assembly
6 Wurmcoil Engine
9 Artisan of Kozilek
10 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
11 Darksteel Colossus
11 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
12 It That Betrays
0 Everflowing Chalice
0 Tormod's Crypt
1 Brittle Effigy
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Expedition Map
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 sensei's divining top
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Isochron Scepter
2 Journeyer's Kite
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Nim Deathmantle
2 Scroll Rack
2 Swiftfoot Boots
2 Torpor Orb
3 Ashnod's Altar
3 Chromatic Lantern
3 Coalition Relic
3 Crawlspace
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Crystal Ball
3 Darksteel Ingot
3 Darksteel Plate
3 Loxodon Warhammer
3 Mimic Vat
3 Oblivion Stone
3 Phyrexian Altar
3 Rings of Brighthearth
3 Sculpting Steel
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Sword of War and Peace
3 Whispersilk Cloak
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
4 Nevinyrral's Disk
5 Batterskull
5 Conjurer's Closet
5 Gauntlet of Power
5 Gilded Lotus
5 Memory Jar
5 Mind's Eye
5 Panoptic Mirror
6 Caged Sun
6 Mindslaver
7 All Is Dust
0 Ancient Tomb
0 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
0 Buried Ruin
0 Cathedral of War
0 City of Brass
0 Command Tower
0 Evolving Wilds
0 High Market
0 Hall of the Bandit Lord
0 Homeward Path
0 Inkmoth Nexus
0 Library of Alexandria
0 Maze of Ith
0 Mystifying Maze
0 Opal Palace
0 Reflecting Pool
0 Reliquary Tower
0 Rogue's Passage
0 Strip Mine
0 Tectonic Edge
0 Temple of the False God
0 Terramorphic Expanse
0 Thawing Glaciers
0 Thespian's Stage
0 Tower of the Magistrate
0 Vesuva
0 Winding Canyons
It'll have a whole bunch of numbers in the leftovers box; you don't need to go through I already made sure everything was spelled right and uploaded right.
EDIT: Oh yeah, you'll also need to move things around to match color identities if you want it to list things under the right categories. Cubetutor just uses whatever color magic says it is. (You can do that in the edit list menu)
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
Edit: I also added a link in the first post to Cubetutor, and I added a list of cards that I would like to be able to fit into the cube.
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Shweet. I tested it out because the list looked like fun. Something to remember: You're gonna need to put up a seperate cube with just the generals so that you can draft them separately. For the moment I just picked one, because I wanted to see how Nath turned out. Looks like fun, not so much discard support, but I suppose Nath doesn't need as much discard support as token stuff. http://cubetutor.com/cubedeck/158131
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
I added the 40 generals to the cube, so they'll have to be drafted in with the rest of the cube.
What you mentioned about Nath not having much support is something that worries me. I want to try and seed the cube with cards that will probably not be a high pick unless you're that general, as well as fill the cube with goodstuff. But finding that balance of good cards that can support generals is tough.
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"Personally I love high-riak, low-reqars gambles. Life's best with a decent amount of riak. And f*** reqars."
Yeah you would think that the commanders would dictate the tone, and there are only so many goodstuff cards you can include. I guess collections seen big enough that it is easy to avoid net decking.
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There aren't any truly great ones for the wedges, which means you end up running crap like Vorosh, the Hunter or Bound//Determined, which, yeah.
Even if you run ones that are strong enough that someone is going to want to draft them, you'll find that they are pretty much guaranteed to wheel because there's almost certainly only one player in any given triad. And even on the wheel, if you're getting it on the early wheel (like pick 9), a lot of the time you'll pass it up in favor of another card, at which point it becomes a last pick that won't even remotely have a chance at being included.
I ran 3 per Shard and 1 per wedge when I started, mostly because I wanted to fit in several specific cards (like Wargate, Finest Hour, and Bant Charm in Bant). After a couple of drafts, I dropped it to 1 per Shard 1 per Wedge. After a few more drafts, I cut them entirely.
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I've been drafting your cube a bunch on cubetutor, Cryogen. It looks good, and I bet you'll have a blast on your maiden draft!
"Personally I love high-riak, low-reqars gambles. Life's best with a decent amount of riak. And f*** reqars."
It's hard but I'm thinking I gotta as well. The part that kills me is losing breaking // entering because some part of me just really loves that card. Everything else is acceptable losses. It's probably for the best though. (For myself and Cryogen)
Also Cryogen thanks for sending me Thromok through Pucatrade. That brings me down to just Kaalia on my list of generals I actually have to get. (Of course she has to be the most expensive general on the list...) Actually Kaalia is gonna be the last proxy in the entire cube now!
Generals meant to be drafted first in a single pack of 6 cards.
And here is the actual cube, meant to be drafted in 4 regular sized packs. (60 card decks)
I'm slowly acquiring more cards to increase the variety, and once I get all the fetches I will add them.
@ SCDL - I'll send your stuff out Monday morning. I also need a Kaalia to replace the proxy, plus Tariel. Then eventually I can get a Library of Alexandria.
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