1) I don't think I will be able to find an The Abyss or Moat, would the Magus' be a acceptable replacement for them.
2) I have never played with the Mox's in a cube, my cube almost directly reflects your own. What is the benefit for adding them? What would I be losing if I exclude them?
1. Probably not. I'd just run something completely different instead.
2. Powerlevel increase. Not sure how else to explain it. Moxes are good. If you lose them, you should probably cut all the other top-tier cards, because I think you should be all or nothing when it comes to broken stuff.
The random card of the day with the made me realize your cube runs all 5 swords still. Our cubes are now the same size, Even though mine is not powered so I have a few more spots, Did you consider chopping any of them During the great Shrinkage?
Seeing Dark Ritual go makes me sad. Did you consider cutting one of the non-Damnation 4cc black spells or Nighthawk instead? Speaking of Nighthawk, I recently cut it in my cube to fit in Liliana, Death's Majesty. Do still find Nighthawk that valuable?
I like Nighthawk still. It's in a good spot in the curve, and it's one of the few black creatures that plays well in slower midrange decks and control decks. Plus, black is always happy with the incidental lifegain.
Damnation/Languish are both critical for control, Void is great in aggro, and Abyss is a good Stax engine.
Some of these cuts were quite hard, but the fixing is more important, IMHO.
I can get on board with those changes. The Vivids can sometimes be a little oppressive in a draft environment that can so easily promote five color planeswalker control, but they are a great way to solve fixing problems without taking up ten slots, which is especially important as the cube gets smaller. They are the first cycle I'd cut if my drafts started leaning that way, but the first cycle I'd add if I felt like I didn't have enough fixing.
I'm more intrigued by the Polukranos to Tireless Tracker swap. I didn't think you were a big fan of Tracker.
I can get on board with those changes. The Vivids can sometimes be a little oppressive in a draft environment that can so easily promote five color planeswalker control, but they are a great way to solve fixing problems without taking up ten slots, which is especially important as the cube gets smaller. They are the first cycle I'd cut if my drafts started leaning that way, but the first cycle I'd add if I felt like I didn't have enough fixing.
Man, this summarizes my thoughts on the Vivid Lands perfectly. Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm more intrigued by the Polukranos to Tireless Tracker swap. I didn't think you were a big fan of Tracker.
I'm not. But I'm also not high on Polukranos. I realized how many of green's 3-drops play better as functional 4-drops/5-drops and figured that would be the best place to shave cards from the curve. I wanted a card that could get both a bigger body and generate card advantage as the game progresses, and Tracker fir the bill. I should give it a fair shake at this smaller size to see how it'll do; all the cards that it has the most synergy with will show up with greater regularity. It's a pretty exciting card with Loam/Excavator/Crucible.
Overall it's an improved draft experience. Tighter lists w/ a higher average powerlevel per card. Goodstuff decks compete better against the dedicated archetypes because of the increase in card quality to the generic cards. I miss a few of the cards and decks that didn't make the cut, but it's been an improvement.
Well, it's a stax enabler. I don't usually play it in control.
Weird, it's the opposite for me: I always play it in control and never in Stax (although I've messed around with mono black Abyss Stax decks in Legacy many years ago).
Occasionally there'll be a control deck that uses exclusively finishers that survive Abyss, and I'll play it there ...but it's primarily used as another sacrifice enabler for recursive Stax shells.
The cube underwent a massive change over the weekend. Dropped to 405 cards!
There's a lot of information and data that I'll post later, and tomorrow I plan to update the OP. But for now, the CubeTutor link is up to date, and shows the cuts to 405 in each section.
Hey there, do you by chance still have the cube list of your 540? I was just about to add colorless and was using your list as my construct.
In the change log blog over on cube tutor, you can see all the changes from the cut. I think there's even a colorless section to look through.
Oh nice! And not a huge list of cuts either. Excellent. Do you know how much land (basic) you had on reserve for people to make decks with in your 540?
I have the same number of basics no matter what size the cube is. I have more sleeved up than I need; you should never need more than 30 of each basic.
The increase in average quality for the midrange goodstuff cards has kept the deck relatively popular still. Aggro is still good (and popular) so the incentive to build midrange decks is still out there.
1. Probably not. I'd just run something completely different instead.
2. Powerlevel increase. Not sure how else to explain it. Moxes are good. If you lose them, you should probably cut all the other top-tier cards, because I think you should be all or nothing when it comes to broken stuff.
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Damnation/Languish are both critical for control, Void is great in aggro, and Abyss is a good Stax engine.
Some of these cuts were quite hard, but the fixing is more important, IMHO.
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I'm more intrigued by the Polukranos to Tireless Tracker swap. I didn't think you were a big fan of Tracker.
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Man, this summarizes my thoughts on the Vivid Lands perfectly. Couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm not. But I'm also not high on Polukranos. I realized how many of green's 3-drops play better as functional 4-drops/5-drops and figured that would be the best place to shave cards from the curve. I wanted a card that could get both a bigger body and generate card advantage as the game progresses, and Tracker fir the bill. I should give it a fair shake at this smaller size to see how it'll do; all the cards that it has the most synergy with will show up with greater regularity. It's a pretty exciting card with Loam/Excavator/Crucible.
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Weird, it's the opposite for me: I always play it in control and never in Stax (although I've messed around with mono black Abyss Stax decks in Legacy many years ago).
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Hey there, do you by chance still have the cube list of your 540? I was just about to add colorless and was using your list as my construct.
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Oh nice! And not a huge list of cuts either. Excellent. Do you know how much land (basic) you had on reserve for people to make decks with in your 540?
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You're right, lol. I thought the Hunter was still in there, because it survived the initial cut to 405. Aspirant probably won't make it in then.
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