Undiscovered Paradise is a 5-color land that doesn't bite your life total. It is great for aggro decks that don't need to keep hitting land drops. It can dodge Armageddon in those decks. As a bonus, it turns on Landfall and all the Landfall creatures play well in those same aggro decks. I had cut it in a previous update but we missed having an additional piece of fixing for aggro decks.
We usually play with 6-8, sometimes as few as 4 (we usually do sealed deck if under 6 people). We normally just pack draft with 3 packs of 15.
I don't think Wildfire needs the signets at all. There are enough mana rocks in this cube to support the deck, as long as the drafter takes them highly enough. That said, I've been thinking of bringing Thran Dynamo back. Or you can go RG Wildfire and need fewer rocks.
So due to my wedding, saving for a house, my new reef tank hobby, life, the universe, and everything, I haven't bought new cards in a while. So far, the only Amonkhet cards I've obtained are Manglehorn and Nissa, Steward of Elements. The cut for Nissa was Trygon Predator. I'm having more trouble finding a spot for Manglehorn. I'm thinking Nissa, Vastwood Seer is the likely cut. I'm open to other ideas.
I'd cut one of the green aggro 1 drops, to be honest. And probably another one for Ramunap Excavator when you get one of those. And then another the next time you get a good green card.
I tried the whole package in my group for a while, and literally no one played it. Not even me, and I love playing aggro. What pulls me into green for aggro? Rancor and Plow Under? Not enough for me.
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I really enjoy green aggro, so I'm not cutting the aggro support. Other cards that pull me into Xg aggro decks: Bloodbraid Elf, Wild Nacatl, and Tarmogoyf. Also, Warden of the First Tree is no joke. Rg aggro has been a pretty successful deck for my crew. Thanks for the input though.
I was looking at your cube and wondering: you have a section for Shard and Wedge cards, which leads me to believe that you want to support some 3 color decks. However, your fixing is kinda bare bones for 3 color (although just fine for 2 color) decks. Have you ever considered adding the Signet cycle to help support those 3 color decks and their signature cards?
To be fair, a number of his wedge cards can act as two color cards, or as cheat targets. A lot of them are hybrid, Heirarch obviously is great in like all green builds, and the two big dudes are NO/Tinker/Reanimation targets. The only card there that pretty much requires you to always have all three colors available is Nicol Bolas which costs enough that you can reliably splash it in a lot of decks that just feature two of those colors, and even then sometimes that gets plopped via Eureka. You can tell they're carefully chosen so that they don't require 3 colors to make decks.
Also, at 450 cards, where would I find room for signets? I'm already finding it painful to cut a colorless card for Sorcerous Spyglass. Fitting 10 more artifacts into the cube would be brutal, especially when I don't think the signets bring that much to the cube. I'd sooner run another land cycle. If I were to go up to 540, I'd probably run some of the talimans (Azorius and Dimir) over the signets.
Also, at 450 cards, where would I find room for signets? I'm already finding it painful to cut a colorless card for Sorcerous Spyglass. Fitting 10 more artifacts into the cube would be brutal, especially when I don't think the signets bring that much to the cube. I'd sooner run another land cycle. If I were to go up to 540, I'd probably run some of the talimans (Azorius and Dimir) over the signets.
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I went powered, briefly, and found that at 450 the artifacts get so tight that the signets were tough. But most people in my group got sick of power after a few drafts, so I pulled it back out and the signets are now pretty crucial for Wildfire/Upheaval/Tinker/etc. In your list, I'd be cutting some of the 3 color cards, Hedron Archive, Masticore, maybe Reflecting Pool. I'd consider a cut in each of the colored sections to move the moxen there. But it's probably not worth the hassle if you're powered. If unpowered, I think the signets or maybe 7 or so color-agnostic 2cmc rocks are pretty necessary if you want to play the decks I mentioned before.
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I've done an overhaul of my red section and made a small change to white. I'm also looking to find room for Through the Breach and would rather not cut Fire Imp to do that, if possible
I like all these swaps. I haven't been too impressed with Soul-Scar Mage so far, but I haven't found him to be actively bad. He's easily the one drop I'm looking to swap for the next playable Jackal Pup we get.
Thanks. I read what you posted in This or That, but I still wanted to give Soul-Scar a try. I know it's a bottom-barrel 1-drop but so is the Goblin. I'm not sure which is better.
Saw your post about black 2’s in wtwlf123’s thread, and I thought I would offer my (unsolicited!) opinion:
I think your black aggro section would be helped by another on-curve aggressive black 2-drop like Asylum Visitor (edit: in addition to Freebooter) and I would consider cutting:
-Profane Command (I love this card, but I do not view it as necessary)
-Liliana, Death’s Majesty (Does some neat stuff but is really medium-ish)
-Sinkhole (powerfull card but your cube is light in on curve aggressive (untapped) fixing and I could see hitting the optimal timing window in your heavy black aggro decks problematic)
Maybe Phyrexian Arena cut before sinkhole? I love Arena, the art is my avatar, but I think we might be near the end of its cube life. If you're trying to boost your aggressive black package, removing the aggressive black card is prob worse than removing the slow card advantage engine.
Cutting Bouncer was a consideration. However, I just saw Bouncer hold off Archangel Avacyn long enough for the blue player to draw into real removal. I think Chart is more similar to Search, while Bouncer does something unique. That's why I chose to cut Chart a Course. It was a close call.
I'd rather Kalitas over 1 of the three 187 4-drops. Have never made it through a draft and wished I had all three, and Kalitas has been pretty solid as a 4. At 450, you'll definitely have more than enough available for your drafters. Otherwise, everything seems legit.
I want all three of those guys in and Kalitas has been good but not great for me. I'll see if Kalitas is missed; I could easily cut Phyrexian Arena instead.
Cuts:
Additions:
Feedback always appreciated.
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I have a couple of questions about your cube, if you don't mind:
How many people usually play in your cube events and what kind of draft variants do you employ?
Do you find it hard to support Wildfire strategies with the lack of signets or color agnostic rocks like sphere, fellwar, etc...
I'm thinking of shrinking down to 450 and trying to wrap my head around certain numbers...
Many thanks in advance!
We usually play with 6-8, sometimes as few as 4 (we usually do sealed deck if under 6 people). We normally just pack draft with 3 packs of 15.
I don't think Wildfire needs the signets at all. There are enough mana rocks in this cube to support the deck, as long as the drafter takes them highly enough. That said, I've been thinking of bringing Thran Dynamo back. Or you can go RG Wildfire and need fewer rocks.
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I tried the whole package in my group for a while, and literally no one played it. Not even me, and I love playing aggro. What pulls me into green for aggro? Rancor and Plow Under? Not enough for me.
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I was looking at your cube and wondering: you have a section for Shard and Wedge cards, which leads me to believe that you want to support some 3 color decks. However, your fixing is kinda bare bones for 3 color (although just fine for 2 color) decks. Have you ever considered adding the Signet cycle to help support those 3 color decks and their signature cards?
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Also, at 450 cards, where would I find room for signets? I'm already finding it painful to cut a colorless card for Sorcerous Spyglass. Fitting 10 more artifacts into the cube would be brutal, especially when I don't think the signets bring that much to the cube. I'd sooner run another land cycle. If I were to go up to 540, I'd probably run some of the talimans (Azorius and Dimir) over the signets.
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I went powered, briefly, and found that at 450 the artifacts get so tight that the signets were tough. But most people in my group got sick of power after a few drafts, so I pulled it back out and the signets are now pretty crucial for Wildfire/Upheaval/Tinker/etc. In your list, I'd be cutting some of the 3 color cards, Hedron Archive, Masticore, maybe Reflecting Pool. I'd consider a cut in each of the colored sections to move the moxen there. But it's probably not worth the hassle if you're powered. If unpowered, I think the signets or maybe 7 or so color-agnostic 2cmc rocks are pretty necessary if you want to play the decks I mentioned before.
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Relic Seeker -> Glory-Bound Initiate
Exalted Angel -> Thalia's Lancers
Baral, Chief of Compliance -> Thing in the Ice
Stratus Dancer -> Chart a Course
Liliana, Heretical Healer -> Liliana, Death's Majesty
Tormented Hero -> Dread Wanderer
Ruinous Path -> Never // Return
Lightning Mauler -> Abrade
Nissa, Vastwood Seer -> Ramunap Excavator
Jungle Lion -> Manglehorn
Trygon Predator -> Nissa, Steward of Elements
Reflecting Pool -> Sorcerous Spyglass
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Hero of Oxid Ridge -> Hazoret the Fervent
Goblin Glory Chaser -> Soul-Scar Mage
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Saw your post about black 2’s in wtwlf123’s thread, and I thought I would offer my (unsolicited!) opinion:
I think your black aggro section would be helped by another on-curve aggressive black 2-drop like Asylum Visitor (edit: in addition to Freebooter) and I would consider cutting:
-Profane Command (I love this card, but I do not view it as necessary)
-Liliana, Death’s Majesty (Does some neat stuff but is really medium-ish)
-Sinkhole (powerfull card but your cube is light in on curve aggressive (untapped) fixing and I could see hitting the optimal timing window in your heavy black aggro decks problematic)
Anyway good luck in whatever you decide to do!
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Chart a Course -> Search for Azcanta
Liliana, Death's Majesty -> Kitesail Freebooter
Fire Imp -> Through the Breach
Ratchet Bomb -> Powder Keg
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Dragon Hunter -> Dauntless Bodyguard
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet -> Ravenous Chupacabra
Hellspark Elemental -> Dire Fleet Daredevil
Soul-Scar Mage -> Earthshaker Khenra
Smash to Smithereens -> Firestorm
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker -> Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
Erratic Portal -> Reflecting Pool
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