MTG Salvation

I don't know, but I think it deserves testing. In Powered, you could play this off Lotus or Moxen and not have a drawback at all.

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With a mox diamond and a forest, you get it out turn 1 and it's really darn good. But I still think the no untap clause makes it largely uncubeable because cube is so tempo based. Maybe in a budget cube.

I like the card nut i think it will be a pass for me. I dont think it really belongs in midrange because the untap clause, and being GG in aggro can be really difficult in that color.

Ehhhh, lots of bounce in cube, the no untap clause is a big deal especially later which is when this is already gonna be meh.

This is a pass for me.

I think I prefer Albino Troll. Easier to cast, true echo has less impact on your following turn, it's a better topdeck, it's nowhere near as weak to bounce effects, it's a creature for all green's interactions ...and it can regenerate.

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I don't know, but I think it deserves testing. In Powered, you could play this off Lotus or Moxen and not have a drawback at all.

Except that if casting this forces you to avoid tapping lands to get around the clause it's still a drawback, although casting this off of elves or artifact mana does mitigate the drawback somewhat. Still, a 5/4 for GG is such an absurd rate that I agree this probably warrants testing.

I think it's the GG that kills this. That's not a rate most aggressive decks can pay, and most mono-green decks would rather be developing their mana at that point in the curve. Give me this at 1G and I'd play it in a heartbeat.

I'm pretty skeptical of this. I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather pay the extra G for Leatherback Baloth. I think it's totally gonna be worth exerting your lands for this card... except when it's not, and this card looks like ass. I think this is just too situational to work. That said, this is an interesting enough card, that I'll probably try it.

None of your Lands untap not just the ones used to cast RLS. This makes it a really bad turn 3+ play and I don't think you could be consistent enough on turn two to make it worth it.