Seeing scry 2 as an etb effect on a non-blue 2-drop is quite a surprise. And actually quite good in an aggro deck. The body is fine, too. We got a couple 3/X 2-drops recently, but it is far from the norm. The second ability will rarely matter, but most of us will add 2-4 vehicles to their cube and those range from playable to great when it comes to aggressive decks, so the effect may come up from time to time.
I know that multicolor slots are tight, but the scry 2 is really enticing.
I'm planning on 4 vehicles at 540, and I'm planning to run this guy. Not sure what the cut is, but I'm leaning towards Ajani Vengeant.
Just a warning, people REALLY love them some catman. I see him ranked in like the top 10 multicolored cards by other people.
Personally I like the ability and its neat, but the second ability will be flavor text in cube, Even with a large number of vehicles, the benefit isn't even that great.
Missed this guy. Scry 2 is a big deal in red decks, as Magma Jet has taught us. None of us would play Shock for 1R, obviously, but the scry makes all the difference. I feel like this would be an auto include if it were mono white or mono red, but I don't know if it can hack into the top for Boros cards. Would we cube Magma Jet if it cost RW? Probably not.
BUT we also haven't really seen an aggro critter with a scry ETB. Magma Jet is a reactive card and this is a pro-active card. Might affect the way scry works out in actual game play.
EDIT: Pretty much I'd have to cut Lightning Helix for this, which I don't know if I want to do.
There at least 2 other cards that cost RW that come with a 3/2 body instead of a 3/1. The vehicle clause will rarely be relevant. You'd be making a tremendous mistake cutting Reckoner or especially Ajani for this, as those cards just do so so so much more in any deck.
I'd take Scry 2 over the extra toughness and marginal abilities that Weapons Trainer and Wojek Halberdiers offer any day. I think this card is much better than either of those two.
A 3/1 with no evasion doesn't exactly cut it in my book. The scry is interesting, but this card really shouldn't be compared to Magma Jet just because it's 2 mana Scry: Magma Jet's other half actually does relevant things, this card not so much most of the time.
The only reason I'd consider it is because Boros isn't a particularly deep guild. I put Nahir, Slayer's Stronhold, and Boros Reckoner, all over it. Probably a Brion Stoutarm too.
I don't think this guy would even make the top ten for Boros for me. I'd even play Truefire Paladin over him. I definitely wouldn't cut Ajani V. for him.
If this were 1R I'd be on this like white on rice, but it doesn't crack my Boros section. I really hope we see some mono-colored aggressive creatures that scry on ETB in the future, though.
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He'll probably make my C/Ube, but the Boros section in the Legacy cube is too good. Not a bad card, and the scry is nice, but this isn't knocking off things like AjaniV or Lightning Helix.
Seeing scry 2 as an etb effect on a non-blue 2-drop is quite a surprise. And actually quite good in an aggro deck. The body is fine, too. We got a couple 3/X 2-drops recently, but it is far from the norm. The second ability will rarely matter, but most of us will add 2-4 vehicles to their cube and those range from playable to great when it comes to aggressive decks, so the effect may come up from time to time.
I know that multicolor slots are tight, but the scry 2 is really enticing.
Maybe this could replace Boros Reckoner?
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Just a warning, people REALLY love them some catman. I see him ranked in like the top 10 multicolored cards by other people.
Personally I like the ability and its neat, but the second ability will be flavor text in cube, Even with a large number of vehicles, the benefit isn't even that great.
thats my cube
BUT we also haven't really seen an aggro critter with a scry ETB. Magma Jet is a reactive card and this is a pro-active card. Might affect the way scry works out in actual game play.
EDIT: Pretty much I'd have to cut Lightning Helix for this, which I don't know if I want to do.
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StaffThe only reason I'd consider it is because Boros isn't a particularly deep guild. I put Nahir, Slayer's Stronhold, and Boros Reckoner, all over it. Probably a Brion Stoutarm too.
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