How does this card compare to Cloudgoat Ranger? Extremely vulnerable if she chooses to make Servo tokens, but by herself can pump the team and also stabilize. Thoughts?
This card might be better than cloudgoat ranger dare I say it...I am very impressed. With the addition of gisela, the broken blade I believe I will be cutting banesaleyer angel in order to test this card. Not because gisela is better, but because of not cluttering the 5 drop slot. I have high hopes!
Probably doesn't get there on power alone, but it's super-synergistic with other cube options. Tutorable with Recruiter of the Guard, recurrable with Alesha and Reveillark, a better fit for blink and weenie decks than something like Baneslayer, and can even do some artifact-y shenanigans. Vigilance is also a nice fit for a lifelinker, especially in a world of value bears and pikers. I could definitely see trying this out over any of the non-Avacyn options in that slot.
I really want to keep Cloudgoat, but what about Baneslayer Angel? White 5's super stacked, but maybe BSA is the cut for this new angel. She plays well with more cards in the Cube and seems to have more utility than just a huge flyer.
1) ETB Synergy
2) Token agro synergy
3) Good stuff playable with a lot of creatures
4) Revilark/Recruiter synergy
5) Cloneable (gets dumb in multiples)
I'm guessing in 85% of spots , you will want to make salvos to spread out the P/T against removal. Which unanswered is 6 power by itself + life gain + minor evasion + flying blocker + anthem.
Hence part of the reason she's great token strategies, as the left over bodies can benefit. IE skull clamp, sorin etc.
The flexibility also has a lot of strategic value.
Against removal light decks (green), or facing a a big flyer that you need to answer (say an opposing restoration angel) you can make her a huge life linking flyer.
Removal heavy decks? Anthems in play? spread it out
The big question is how does she stack up to the competition? I think there's a very good chance she's better than cloudgoat ranger and has similar synergies. I think it's likely she's better than archangel avacyn....
Yowza, that's quite versatile. What I like is that it can go somewhat big or wide if need be, and has quite an abusable AND flexible ETB trigger. Making a pair 2/2s is Grave Titan territory and she's an anthem to boot.
She definitely seems like an upgrade over Cloudgoat. If she goes wide, she beats for 6 in the air in addition to buffing the rest of your team. If your opponent has an easy source of 1 damage, then Cloudgoat would have been stuck on the ground as a 3/3 but Angel can still be a 4/3 flyer, and you get more value out of the lifelink/vigilance. Being a valid Reveillark target is just gravy.
The only scenario where Cloudgoat is better is if you don't play around the ping and they have it. I see that as an interesting minigame more than anything.
Oh wow, I missed this.... This means fetchable with recruiters as well!
For the people running "the big 4", I think it's likely that baneslayer is the best cut.
I cut it about 4 months ago and I don't miss it... And this synergizes well with both cloud goat and revilark!
I just noticed that you can't divide the Fabricate X: you HAVE to either make two servos or two +1/+1 counters. Small nitpick, but definitely not a dealbreaker by any means.
Getting to the point where I need to cut Baneslayer Angel, perhaps I should think about expanding my cube to 630!?
I LOVE this card, I think it warrants testing! No idea what to cut, I already have 4 white 5-drop creatures plus Gideon Jura, and I've wanted to cut one since I added Avacyn. Having a small cube is so difficult!
I'll find room for this pretty easily, since my white 5s are in need of upgrading anyway. I think both this and the white Gearhulk will make it in from this set.
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It's very important to note that this cannot be blinked with Restoration Angel.
Between Exalted Angel, Gisela, and Angel of Invention, Baneslayer Angel does seem to be the correct cut. That's just surreal to me, Walletslayer Angel gone from my cube. She was such a huge deal when M10 first came out. M10 was very groundbreaking and Baneslayer Angel was the face of that set.
Kind of interesting, but also very fragile. Seems unlikely to beat Avacyn, Cloudgoat, or Reveillark. I could see running it over Baneslayer, but we already don't include her. Perhaps it's finally time for us to take Karmic Guide to the farm where pet cards go to die.
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I find cutting BSA to be a tough choice. She is so powerful that I cannot imagine cutting for this. You can often take her later than you would think, and the stats swing games instantly.
I have a high concentration of targeted removal to help deal with the planeswalker creep in my cube. Because of this, creatures that can pass the Vindicate test have been getting better and better. As much as a stat monster as Baneslayer Angel is (I love dumb stat monsters), she flunks the Vindicate test pretty hard.
I'm also adding Aerial Responder on top of Exalted Angel, Gisela, Angel of Inventions, so it's not like there won't be any lack of flying lifelinkers in my cube.
Ya, this creature is really good. It fills a similar role to both Cloudgoat and Baneslayer, so I'm not sure which of the two would be the cut for me, but probably one of them. This has the raw power/cost ratio of Cloudgoat (but also has a built-in Anthem for all your other tokens) AND it can be targeted by the Recruiter(s), 'Lark and Alesha. It'll be a tough cut, but I think this straight-up goes in.
How does this card compare to Cloudgoat Ranger? Extremely vulnerable if she chooses to make Servo tokens, but by herself can pump the team and also stabilize. Thoughts?
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If you compare it side by side as a 4/3 flying vigilance lifelinker with Gisela, the broken blade
Is 1 extra mana worth the versatility and anthem effect?
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Good question, but I think I want to test it to find out. I'm a big fan of anthems on a body.
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1) ETB Synergy
2) Token agro synergy
3) Good stuff playable with a lot of creatures
4) Revilark/Recruiter synergy
5) Cloneable (gets dumb in multiples)
I'm guessing in 85% of spots , you will want to make salvos to spread out the P/T against removal. Which unanswered is 6 power by itself + life gain + minor evasion + flying blocker + anthem.
Hence part of the reason she's great token strategies, as the left over bodies can benefit. IE skull clamp, sorin etc.
The flexibility also has a lot of strategic value.
Against removal light decks (green), or facing a a big flyer that you need to answer (say an opposing restoration angel) you can make her a huge life linking flyer.
Removal heavy decks? Anthems in play? spread it out
The big question is how does she stack up to the competition? I think there's a very good chance she's better than cloudgoat ranger and has similar synergies. I think it's likely she's better than archangel avacyn....
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Why couldn't this be blackYowza, that's quite versatile. What I like is that it can go somewhat big or wide if need be, and has quite an abusable AND flexible ETB trigger. Making a pair 2/2s is Grave Titan territory and she's an anthem to boot.
Has Baneslayer Angel's time come?
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The only scenario where Cloudgoat is better is if you don't play around the ping and they have it. I see that as an interesting minigame more than anything.
Oh wow, I missed this.... This means fetchable with recruiters as well!
For the people running "the big 4", I think it's likely that baneslayer is the best cut.
I cut it about 4 months ago and I don't miss it... And this synergizes well with both cloud goat and revilark!
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Anthems are very powerful and being able to tutor this is really cool.
I love it. I might cut Sun Titan for this.
Getting to the point where I need to cut Baneslayer Angel, perhaps I should think about expanding my cube to 630!?
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It's very important to note that this cannot be blinked with Restoration Angel.
Between Exalted Angel, Gisela, and Angel of Invention, Baneslayer Angel does seem to be the correct cut. That's just surreal to me, Walletslayer Angel gone from my cube. She was such a huge deal when M10 first came out. M10 was very groundbreaking and Baneslayer Angel was the face of that set.
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I'm also adding Aerial Responder on top of Exalted Angel, Gisela, Angel of Inventions, so it's not like there won't be any lack of flying lifelinkers in my cube.
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