Seems like a shoe-in if you support Storm / run Lion’s Eye Diamond. Even without it, this may entice me to try the Narset / Leovold package. Above else, I just want to discard this to Psychatog.
We cut Timetwister for almost always backfiring by giving the opponent the opportunity to untap and use the new cards before you do. I'd rank these Time Spiral > Timetwister > Echo of Eons. Also slops for not giving this a Time Something name. If you're running storm, you probably want all three. If you're running Narset / Leovold, you probably want all three once you get to 630-720, but maybe only two at 540 or less.
Currently I have Commit/Memory in as the additional wheel effect for Narset/Leovold. Unsure if I want to cut that for this, or add it alongside it. I love draw-sevens, and this one is interesting. Will likely test it.
I think this looks sweet. Good with Narset/Leovold interactions, good top-end for spells matters decks, powerful with Fastbond and sweet with Psychatog.
Seems like an auto-include for cubes that support storm.
In my cube I'm guessing the main cost will be ineffecient a bit too often (basing this on my experiences with commit/memory). If a deck that wants draw 7's can loot reliably, it turns good enough, but I'm estimating that won't be trivial.
However, I'm not confident about my appraisal. Leovold + Narset combo has become more of a build around... In that style deck 6 mana for this effect is fine. If you wanted, you can support a few of the fringe looting effects , and you maybe could turn this into a worse but playable time twister.
I think this looks sweet. Good with Narset/Leovold interactions, good top-end for spells matters decks, powerful with Fastbond and sweet with Psychatog.
Does the Narset/Leovold deck actually have enough support, or are the cards just good enough on their own? Narset seems pretty mediocre to me, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
ryansaxe sold me on Narset. I added in Leovold to make it a combo package. I plan on expanding it even more in an upcoming change. It's pretty spicy when it comes together. Cards like this will help. As will things like Commit // Memory when I bring them back in.
@ryansaxe - how many people do you usually draft with and how do you usually do your draft? (ie 15 card packs, glimpse/sight, ect) I’m asking because you seem to support quite a few archetypes and mini combo packages in your cube. These are all super interesting to me but I’m doubtful i’ll be able to pull many of them off in my cube. I’ve had a grand total of 4 eight-player drafts in the history of my cube. The vast majority of the time i’m glimpse drafting with two or four other players. I’ve found it difficult to pull off certain sub themes and archetypes in my usual two to four player pods.
@wtwlf123 - I know you glimpse a lot so I’ll be interested to hear how the Narset/Leovold lock works for you as well.
I either have 8 or 2 people in the way my cube is drafted. I've done a lot of 8-person-drafts, probably over 100 in my cubes history, but right now the most common scenario is two players. However, the two-person format I use has much more powerful/archetypal decks than most. It works as follows:
Each player makes a random deck of 45 cards.
Make one central deck of 81 cards.
There are 9 rounds. To start each round, each player draws 5 cards from their deck. Then lay out 9 cards in a face-up grid from the central deck.
Players alternate swapping a card from their hand with a card from the grid. The round ends when each player has swapped cards three times. You MUST swap a card on your turn, but it can be any card in your hand (including cards you picked up earlier this round) with any card in the grid (including cards put there earlier this round).
Once the round is over, each player will have 5 cards tailored for their deck. Place these cards aside, they are now in your draft pool. Draw another 5 cards and lay out another grid.
Repeat steps 3-5 until all decks are depleted.
My friend Myles Housman came up with this (I believe) and so we call it Housman Draft. It's pretty fantastic tbh. There's lots of hatedrafting games due to partial information. If you do it with 3 people, politics and collusion can happen. It's a very deep and fun format.
I think this looks sweet. Good with Narset/Leovold interactions, good top-end for spells matters decks, powerful with Fastbond and sweet with Psychatog.
Sweet jesus I want to draft this deck lol.
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I either have 8 or 2 people in the way my cube is drafted. I've done a lot of 8-person-drafts, probably over 100 in my cubes history, but right now the most common scenario is two players. However, the two-person format I use has much more powerful/archetypal decks than most. It works as follows:
Each player makes a random deck of 45 cards.
Make one central deck of 81 cards.
There are 9 rounds. To start each round, each player draws 5 cards from their deck. Then lay out 9 cards in a face-up grid from the central deck.
Players alternate swapping a card from their hand with a card from the grid. The round ends when each player has swapped cards three times. You MUST swap a card on your turn, but it can be any card in your hand (including cards you picked up earlier this round) with any card in the grid (including cards put there earlier this round).
Once the round is over, each player will have 5 cards tailored for their deck. Place these cards aside, they are now in your draft pool. Draw another 5 cards and lay out another grid.
Repeat steps 3-5 until all decks are depleted.
My friend Myles Housman came up with this (I believe) and so we call it Housman Draft. It's pretty fantastic tbh. There's lots of hatedrafting games due to partial information. If you do it with 3 people, politics and collusion can happen. It's a very deep and fun format.
Seems like a shoe-in if you support Storm / run Lion’s Eye Diamond. Even without it, this may entice me to try the Narset / Leovold package. Above else, I just want to discard this to Psychatog.
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In my cube I'm guessing the main cost will be ineffecient a bit too often (basing this on my experiences with commit/memory). If a deck that wants draw 7's can loot reliably, it turns good enough, but I'm estimating that won't be trivial.
However, I'm not confident about my appraisal. Leovold + Narset combo has become more of a build around... In that style deck 6 mana for this effect is fine. If you wanted, you can support a few of the fringe looting effects , and you maybe could turn this into a worse but playable time twister.
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Does the Narset/Leovold deck actually have enough support, or are the cards just good enough on their own? Narset seems pretty mediocre to me, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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@ryansaxe - how many people do you usually draft with and how do you usually do your draft? (ie 15 card packs, glimpse/sight, ect) I’m asking because you seem to support quite a few archetypes and mini combo packages in your cube. These are all super interesting to me but I’m doubtful i’ll be able to pull many of them off in my cube. I’ve had a grand total of 4 eight-player drafts in the history of my cube. The vast majority of the time i’m glimpse drafting with two or four other players. I’ve found it difficult to pull off certain sub themes and archetypes in my usual two to four player pods.
@wtwlf123 - I know you glimpse a lot so I’ll be interested to hear how the Narset/Leovold lock works for you as well.
My friend Myles Housman came up with this (I believe) and so we call it Housman Draft. It's pretty fantastic tbh. There's lots of hatedrafting games due to partial information. If you do it with 3 people, politics and collusion can happen. It's a very deep and fun format.
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Sweet jesus I want to draft this deck lol.
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This is fascinating, I'll have to try it!