MTG Salvation

I love the ideal of being able to cheaply cycle away unwanted lands in R/x decks, but will it always be the 24th card? The fact that it cycles itself is pretty nice, but a two mana cycle may be too much for aggressive red decks to stomach. It's definitely a card that could bump the lands archetype up a notch (Tec Ref + Loam is absurd!).

What do we think?

Trade Routes has never been something I wanted, but I could see it if you're pushing red/green lands in graveyard hard.

This card is sweet, but I'm not sure if it's really worth an inclusion. Compare it to Molten Vortex. That was a card I loved, but just didn't make the cut. I'm unsure what is better between shock and cycling, however giving the actual enchantment cycling is big game. Will probably test, but I'm skeptical that it passes the bar.

I love the card, but it's a bad late-game topdeck unless you're fairly flooded, and it's not good if you are trying to curve out early. A very deep lands-matter theme might want it, but it feels situational.

Quote from ryansaxe »

This card is sweet, but I'm not sure if it's really worth an inclusion. Compare it to Molten Vortex. That was a card I loved, but just didn't make the cut. I'm unsure what is better between shock and cycling, however giving the actual enchantment cycling is big game. Will probably test, but I'm skeptical that it passes the bar.

Molten Vortex is a card I'd forgotten about and the comparison is apt. Having cycling itself is pretty cool but in the role I'd want this to fill I think Vortex, and maybe even Experimental Frenzy are better. If Lands ever climbs the tier list of cube archetypes this could be something to consider but I'll probably pass for now.

Quote from ryansaxe »

This card is sweet, but I'm not sure if it's really worth an inclusion. Compare it to Molten Vortex. That was a card I loved, but just didn't make the cut. I'm unsure what is better between shock and cycling, however giving the actual enchantment cycling is big game. Will probably test, but I'm skeptical that it passes the bar.

I came to say this exact point, and you already said it for me.

I like the card, but I think it's a narrow miss.

I'm skeptical that it passes the bar as well, but unlike Molten Vortex, this card doesn't get shot off by Needle & Friends. It's not enough to push it over the edge, but it's worth noting, because getting your Vortex shut off felt awkward (and up to 3 opponents could have been running a Needle effect for me).

In smaller cubes the graveyard land package is getting a significant bump with this set. Wren and six as well as the 6 sac lands, could some of those land graveyard matters cards be worth looking at again, or were they bad even when enabled?

This is pretty cool. I like the idea of increasing my loam archetype. But zero board interaction is always a problem. The Trade Routes and Molten Vortex comparisons don't bode extremely well. But then again, both those cards have better support now than ever before, and cycling goes a long way.