MTG Salvation

Solemnity

This + a sac outlet + either Murderous Redcap, Geralf's Messenger, Kitchen Finks

Also nice with Glen Elendra Archmage and Wall of Roots, as well as randomly hating things like Smokestack, Parallax Wave, Skinrender, Umezawa's Jitte, and a handful of others. It could also make Dark Depths more of a consideration since that also already works with Vampire Hexmage

One thing to note is that it actually prevents Wall of Roots from activating as well as Devoted Druid's untap ability.

Otherwise I just don't see this being a good enough general pick. Randomly hosing an opponents plus or charge counters isn't really worth a card and particularly not an early pick card so you would be picking it to use as a combo. Then you need persist/undying and a sac outlet which has the issue of needing a cube with enough of those things to be good. With 4-5 combo creatures in a cube I could see large ones running this otherwise it's just too specific.

It's like kinda appealing if you run something like Muzzio's Preparations, but it feels a bit too narrow otherwise as a hoser.

I also don't like how it can turn on my opponent's interactions with the card too. Like, it would feel awful to have this if I have Redcap or something and then they happen to have Kitchen Finks.

Quote from genini2 »

One thing to note is that it actually prevents Wall of Roots from activating as well as Devoted Druid's untap ability.

Ah, good catch!

The interactions are simply adorable, but I can't imagine this being worth a card. It does next to nothing by itself, and if your cube is large enough to include do-nothing/hose cards, you probably don't have the density of combo-parts that would be necessary to make this worth it. I can only really see this making it into a cube specifically oriented to combo.

I'm thinking how viable this is with Glacial Chasm, Urza's Saga - play it after the second saga to lock it to produce a construct every turn, Dark Depths and Persist combo.

I've been playing this card for some time now, having included it when I introduced Persist-Combo and Dark Depths to my Cube. All the reservations against this card are valid, but I just REALLY like its interactions.
Incidentally, this is also one of those cards that keeps getting better as more relevant effects keep getting printed, as for example Urza's Saga you mentioned.


That will probably never change the fact that this card does nothing at all on its own, but as an enabler I like it.

Quote from Resarox »

I've been playing this card for some time now, having included it when I introduced Persist-Combo and Dark Depths to my Cube. All the reservations against this card are valid, but I just REALLY like its interactions.
Incidentally, this is also one of those cards that keeps getting better as more relevant effects keep getting printed, as for example Urza's Saga you mentioned.


That will probably never change the fact that this card does nothing at all on its own, but as an enabler I like it.

I think the Saga - Solemnity interaction pushes the card into relevance. I'm not sure if my cube will play Glacial Chasm - it might be interesting as a backup combo piece of Solemnity/ Life from the Loam etc.

I'm wondering if this is worth a second look if you have Dark Depths / Melira, Sylvok Outcast/ Mikaeus, the Unhallowed as combos and if you want additional hosers to stuff like The One Ring / Palantír of Orthanc.

EDIT - Does every card these days have 3+ secret lair, judge promo, limited edition promo? 4 out of the 5 cards I just highlighted seem to have had new printings.