The more I think about it the more I think it could be the best Simic card in Cube. I love Mystic Snake and Trygon Predator is solid but I think Nissa is fantastic. Sylvan Library with it, Oracle of Mul Daya with it, playing it after Upheaval, dropping it early and digging for lands or the card you really need. Man, Simic needed some love as did the black 5-drop section and we really got those cards with this set.
This and JTMS would be the ultimate control:
-T3: Nissa, Scry(3)
-T4: Jace, Brainstorm(3), Nissa 0(3), Putting a 3cc from the top 5
-T5: Whatever is optimal
-Alt T4: Jace, Bounce(2), Nissa Scry(5)
-T5: J Bounce(1), N Scry(7)
-T7: 10 to the kisser!
Joke aside, a little protection will make this a insanely good.
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Simic was the weakest guild. Nissa has troubles protecting herself but reminds to Dack Fayden at her 3 mana mode. She will never steal a sword, but being an instant win in some common scenarios might offset this. Loot 2 is much better than scry 2 of course, but besides Edric (which is one of the narrowest cards I run and can be a bit win more) she is of the few Simic gold cards that actually pull you towards drafting the guild. She easily seems splashworthy.
That's for sure. An early draftpool featuring some counterspells and library manipulation spells would certainly lead cubers toward drafting a simic controlish kind of build. Primeval Titan and this wants to play together, no doubt.
Reminds me of a better version of Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver in a weaker color combination. A slam-dunk cube inclusion, IMO.
A {+2} scry 2 is great on its own, but has obvious fantastic synergy with her {0} ability. Her variable loyalty means that she's a spectacular topdeck, and is great at every stage of the game. She has an attainable ultimate that crashes in for 10 damage, and it can be immediately available when you're flooded out too; it's not impossible to reach 8 mana in this format, and when you do, you have a random fireball. She's really good.
I'm a fan. The question is what to cut. I like Kiora 2.0 but I'm not sure I want 40% of my Simic slots to be planeswalkers. Sagu Mauler would be the other likely cut.
I'm a fan. The question is what to cut. I like Kiora 2.0 but I'm not sure I want 40% of my Simic slots to be planeswalkers. Sagu Mauler would be the other likely cut.
I see you're running both Izzet walkers, so there's at least some precedent within your cube. Shoot, I run both Izzet walkers in a 3-card guild section. It feels a little off but whatever.
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I'm a fan. The question is what to cut. I like Kiora 2.0 but I'm not sure I want 40% of my Simic slots to be planeswalkers. Sagu Mauler would be the other likely cut.
I see you're running both Izzet walkers, so there's at least some precedent within your cube. Shoot, I run both Izzet walkers in a 3-card guild section. It feels a little off but whatever.
Both Izzet walkers do drastically different things and are leagues above both Kiora variants. I like new Nissa over both Kiora variants also, but I like Kioras over Mauler. All 3 Simic walkers kind of do the same / similar things though, so I can understand wanting to mix things up. Personally I don't care about redundant multicolored sections since multicolored cards to me are usually just efficient utility spells (just look at my Golgari section) or bomb / niche planeswalkers, they're not exactly archetype enablers.
Man, my only complaint with this set is that all the new powerful planeswalkers are already existing PWers with multiple iterations that are cube staples. Playing 3/3 planeswalkers from a single set is extremely rare, the only thing other set I can think of with that kind of planeswalker play % is Shards of Alara.
soooo Oko just pushes out nissa in simic in cube right? or do you guys run oko and nissa both?
Jury is still out for me wether or not Oko is better than Nissa. Regardless, I think both are easily top 3 Simic material and am currently running both.
I'm testing Oko over Nissa at the moment, but both are really good cube cards. Nissa might be slightly more expendable because Krasis also works as a big mana scalable bomb; which is what I used as a tiebreaker to give Oko the edge. For diversity's sake, I'm going with him at the moment.
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-T3: Nissa, Scry(3)
-T4: Jace, Brainstorm(3), Nissa 0(3), Putting a 3cc from the top 5
-T5: Whatever is optimal
-Alt T4: Jace, Bounce(2), Nissa Scry(5)
-T5: J Bounce(1), N Scry(7)
-T7: 10 to the kisser!
Joke aside, a little protection will make this a insanely good.
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That's for sure. An early draftpool featuring some counterspells and library manipulation spells would certainly lead cubers toward drafting a simic controlish kind of build. Primeval Titan and this wants to play together, no doubt.
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A {+2} scry 2 is great on its own, but has obvious fantastic synergy with her {0} ability. Her variable loyalty means that she's a spectacular topdeck, and is great at every stage of the game. She has an attainable ultimate that crashes in for 10 damage, and it can be immediately available when you're flooded out too; it's not impossible to reach 8 mana in this format, and when you do, you have a random
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I see you're running both Izzet walkers, so there's at least some precedent within your cube. Shoot, I run both Izzet walkers in a 3-card guild section. It feels a little off but whatever.
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StaffBoth Izzet walkers do drastically different things and are leagues above both Kiora variants. I like new Nissa over both Kiora variants also, but I like Kioras over Mauler. All 3 Simic walkers kind of do the same / similar things though, so I can understand wanting to mix things up. Personally I don't care about redundant multicolored sections since multicolored cards to me are usually just efficient utility spells (just look at my Golgari section) or bomb / niche planeswalkers, they're not exactly archetype enablers.
Man, my only complaint with this set is that all the new powerful planeswalkers are already existing PWers with multiple iterations that are cube staples. Playing 3/3 planeswalkers from a single set is extremely rare, the only thing other set I can think of with that kind of planeswalker play % is Shards of Alara.
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StaffJury is still out for me wether or not Oko is better than Nissa. Regardless, I think both are easily top 3 Simic material and am currently running both.
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