He's in my on deck binder and has a good chance of going in. Artifact.dec is the premier archetype I want to support for Izzet. I already have Welder, Daretti, etc.
I'm especially excited to see what Kaladesh brings, and my gut tells me he'll go in with that fall update.
I was reading through SOI/EMN cards again for the prerelease and was reminded that Nahiri's ultimate can get noncreature artifacts. There's not really anything in standard right now that can take advantage of this, so my guess is Kaladesh might have at least one high costed, powerful noncreature artifact that could benefit from her "Sneak Attack" ability. It would be interesting to have a high cost artifact that can close games out by itself without resorting to combat damage or Mindslaver feelbads.
This weekend I'll be taking my daughter to the zoo. Oh, and yeah Moat is really sweet, and I have an English copy in my 720 unpowered. This is one of many cards that will condition people to prioritize picking cards that can deal with enchantments.
Unpowered 360, no moat. Have never tried it - avoiding it due to concerns for fun and because I dislike proxying cards that I'm unlikely to ever acquire. I make an exception for Ravages of War, which I think is more critical.
450 unpowered and I don't run it either. I don't think I would mind it too much in terms of power level if it didn't completely sucker punch red. I don't like for any deck to be able to find itself in a completely unwinnable situation. Granted, there's a chance the red deck could burn you out, but not necessarily if Moat comes out on curve.
The Esper colors have a decent chance of flying over and green obviously should be able to kill an enchantment, but with red I just worry it's game over too easily. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have a ton of play experience with it.
More than that though, as someone said above, I don't like playing with proxies when I know I'll never acquire the real thing.
No Moat here. I don't run proxies except the gold-bordered stuff, and for cost reasons I'll likely never seriously consider this for my cube. It's a sweet effect, but I'd have concerns about red decks against this card.
I'm a teacher during the school year and I work at a group home through the summer and breaks. Got a 15 hour day here today, but it's pretty mellow and hopefully I've got friends playing prerelease today to get me the 6-10 cards I want for cube.
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I run a 485 Cards, Unpowered cube, and no Moat for me duo to fun reasons - I like my cube games to be as interactive as possible, and this card single-handedly shut down some decks.
I went to the prerelease and opened a foil Spell Quiller. It was fun
I've played enough Moat in Legacy to know that my playgroup would do nothing but groan against it. A part of my playgroup are newer-generation players that constantly groan at Pack Rat / Swords. Even then, I don't think I'd want to cube with it/
I've played enough Moat in Legacy to know that my playgroup would do nothing but groan against it. A part of my playgroup are newer-generation players that constantly groan at Pack Rat...
If they groan about Pack Rat, maybe you should give 'em a Moat to keep the rats at bay.
I love Moat and honestly don't think it's as cringe worthy as it often gets labeled. First, you can Moat lock yourself if you don't build your deck to synergize with it. It's also possible to get to the end of the draft and realize that your only flyer is a Faerie Conclave or something and you just can't justify including Moat in your deck. Second, Moat is near the top of the list of reasons why I almost always main deck Disenchant effects. If you draft accordingly with a plan to beat cards like Moat (i.e. problematic enchantments and artifacts) then it really shouldn't be a problem.
As for weekend plans, I spent all day today at a go-kart park for my buddy's son's sixth birthday. We had pizza, cake, ice cream and a day full of driving go-karts. It was as awesome for the 30-somethings as it was for the kiddos.
Fact or Fiction is just an awesome card. Having to split it so you don't just end up losing the game is always a challenge, but it is always fun. Especially if it's in a multiplayer setting.
I don't have the old frame one but I do have the FTV foil of the original art, so you take what you can get I suppose.
Fact or Fiction is a fantastic card. Instant speed draw of a quality that they just don't print anymore. Control decks love instant speed draw. The amount of cards getting added to your graveyard is also relevant for delve and Psychatog and stuff.
I am very happy with the FoF in Eternal Masters. Finally, I have a (nonfoil) version that has the classic art in the new frame.
Modern:
Dredge | Restore Balance | Titanshift
My [360][Unpowered][Modern-Frame] Cube
I'm especially excited to see what Kaladesh brings, and my gut tells me he'll go in with that fall update.
450 unpowered, no Time Vault.
I was reading through SOI/EMN cards again for the prerelease and was reminded that Nahiri's ultimate can get noncreature artifacts. There's not really anything in standard right now that can take advantage of this, so my guess is Kaladesh might have at least one high costed, powerful noncreature artifact that could benefit from her "Sneak Attack" ability. It would be interesting to have a high cost artifact that can close games out by itself without resorting to combat damage or Mindslaver feelbads.
Unfortunately, not really. I think you're better off with something like Whirler Rogue or Hangarback Walker.
Modern:
Dredge | Restore Balance | Titanshift
My [360][Unpowered][Modern-Frame] Cube
Do you hate your friends? Me too! That's why I love moat. While not infallible, moat is a beating against certain decks.
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The Esper colors have a decent chance of flying over and green obviously should be able to kill an enchantment, but with red I just worry it's game over too easily. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't have a ton of play experience with it.
More than that though, as someone said above, I don't like playing with proxies when I know I'll never acquire the real thing.
Doing roadie work for a band for a little side cash. Other than that, no big plans.
I'm a teacher during the school year and I work at a group home through the summer and breaks. Got a 15 hour day here today, but it's pretty mellow and hopefully I've got friends playing prerelease today to get me the 6-10 cards I want for cube.
EDH: UGEdric
Pauper: UR Delver
Modern: UGR Delver
Draft my cube: Eric's 390 Unpowered
I went to the prerelease and opened a foil Spell Quiller. It was fun
To some people, Moat + other reserved list cards are their 401k.
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If they groan about Pack Rat, maybe you should give 'em a Moat to keep the rats at bay.
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As for weekend plans, I spent all day today at a go-kart park for my buddy's son's sixth birthday. We had pizza, cake, ice cream and a day full of driving go-karts. It was as awesome for the 30-somethings as it was for the kiddos.
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The card is dope. So many mind games played, and such a great design that they've given us, like, a trillion re-designs.
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-Fact or Fiction?
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I don't have the old frame one but I do have the FTV foil of the original art, so you take what you can get I suppose.
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I am very happy with the FoF in Eternal Masters. Finally, I have a (nonfoil) version that has the classic art in the new frame.
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