When I look at DRS, it seems like it would be so mediocre in cube that I should give its slot to something else. But the thing is for us it has always played so much better than it looks. I rarely play it myself, but am always having it played against me and it always finds a way to be relevant. Dropped turn one, even if it never makes mana, it does just fine to sit there and inconspicuously swing the game in your favor 2 life at a time, sometimes even hitting a recurrable creature.
What perfect timing for this card! In complete contrast to the narrowness of Manic Vandal, Acidic Slime is just great. It answers just about any non-planeswalker threat (even creatures oftentimes due to Deathtouch). This is what I want my artifact removal to be.
Costing five mana makes it a bad answer to many of the cheaper targets.
In 720 with 10 fetches (+2 basic fetches), DRS was poor. It is one of the more maindeckable graveyard hate card if your cube needs that, but given our conditions we have found that:
1) He produces less than one mana per game on average
2) He is not good on the first turn, due to lack of targets and unwillingness to pay the mana for abilities that do not impact the board
3) He is very slow late
4) From our experience, we have found out you really want to have access to both colors
That said it is a card I want to be good in cube. If the need for more graveyard hate will rise, or a new cycle of fetches of some form will be printed, I'll give DRS another spin.
After all the talk about DRS being a 1-mana planeswalker and the best one-drop creatures this guy popped up in my Random Cube Card Generator. I think he might be upset....
Kytheon is amazing if your in white agro; it lets you play your 2/1 guy with upside (indestructible is legit considering his transformation is an attack trigger) on turn one then he upgrades into a 4/4 indestructible beatstick that avoids sourcery speed removal or in a pinch removes a blocker/takes a hit for you/grants indestructible and pseudo-vigilance.
He does all this at no additional cost since if your opponent kills or trades with him, you sunk no more resources into him than the average 2/1. The only way they can really "get" you is instant speed removal after you have but his indestructible trigger on the stack or after he becomes Gideon.
Even outside of agro he can do work in token decks, go wide strategies or even just filling in the low end of the curve in something more midrange that isn't a allways a dead card. Again, it's only a one mana investment with a pretty high ceiling.
I really like that we have been seeing a lot of small legendary creatures with fairly unique effects, Wizards seem a lot more comfortable pushing them pretty hard since they can't be as oppressive in standard/modern. I hope we see a bunch more in the coming sets and I expect to see another red 2/2 hasty 1 drop some day (even a legendary goblin guide maybe when we return to return to zendikar)
I enjoy boros agro a lot in cube, havnt went mono white in a long time.
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On acidic slime, has anyone ever felt the disconnect between the art and the mechanics? It looks a lot bigger than a 2/2 since the 1/1 solider it is holding is tiny but a bear would be a match for it. Apart for the landscape nothing about it looks like it destroys non-creatures.
Not saying I don't like the art, just its feels like it should be on some kind of larger ooze. I allways thought acidic slime should have been more like the promo art (though I'm not a fan of it), maybe a slime dissolving a guys weapon and arm with a skull floating in it.
Kytheon is probably the best white 2-power 1-drop. Not only does it have the ability to make itself indestructible, but it can also transform into a formidable 'walker. And for W, you can't ask much more than that.
I love playing W/X aggro decks. I don't play much mono-color aggro (of any color), if that's what the question is asking.
Kytheon is probably the best white 2-power 1-drop. Not only does it have the ability to make itself indestructible, but it can also transform into a formidable 'walker. And for W, you can't ask much more than that.
I love playing W/X aggro decks. I don't play much mono-color aggro (of any color), if that's what the question is asking.
Kytheon is great. Hard to imagine how a white aggro 1 drop could be any better.
I like playing white-based aggro quite a bit. Boros is fun, but my favorite is the Thalia/Braids deck our group calls BW Mean Girls. Kytheon fits in there just fine.
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As soon as I get one, he'll be in the cube. It's about as much top end as you can really expect out of a 1 drop. It's not quite DRS, or Goblin Guide power level, but if he flips he can lay a wallop. Not the strongest flip walker either, because Jace is a thing.
I don't mind playing white aggro, though I usually tie it to something else.
If Kytheon wheels, it's a signal that white weenie is wide open and I move in. Savannah Lions with any upside whatsoever is good enough to cube, and this does so much more. It's also proven surprisingly easy to flip, especially in a tokens build.
I love playing white weenie decks, although usually splashing red or blue. It tends to be under-drafted, as a lot of the guys I play with are more interested in combo decks and doing "unfair" things. I get a kick out of playing a good "fair" deck with a good curve, disruption, and reach to keep the durdling in check.
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Mine is in the mail as we speak. Super excited to replace Yosei. With all the tokens in cube these days, this card is especially cool because it's an anthem for your own and a sweeper for theirs. Plus vigilance, as if it weren't already good enough.
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Elesh Norn is a monster, and is definitely the best superfatty in white. My favorite shell for her is probably GW Token-Ramp, where she can resolve with regularity and buff a team of small monsters.
I think it's naive to think that in the vast infinite space, there isn't one other celestial body capable of supporting some kind of life.
Elesh Norn is the best white super fatty in my opinion as well. She is best against something like mono red which has no way to beat her.
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Elesh Norn is too much creature for my midrange list. It's probably the best white fattie ever printed (up to this point).
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Elesh Norn is easily the best option for a ramp/reanimation target in white with its devastating impact on the opponent's board as well as its buff to your own. Angel of Serenity is probably the second best choice, which I ran for quite a while and did quite well as a budget placeholder, but Elesh Norn ends games much faster.
I also remain hopeful about the possibility of life on other planets, and I've been intrigued by some of the recent findings that at least the conditions to support life may be more plentiful and closer than we'd previously assumed.
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One of the two swords I'm missing, in addition to Body & Mind. I actually traded for a copy but it got lost in the mail. The risks of not getting tracking . . .
Longest novel I've read: well, I majored in philosophy and now teach English, so lots of them. The really big ones are Tolstoy's War & Peace and Anna Karenina, Gaddis's The Recognitions, and Wallace's Infinite Jest. I've read Martin's Song of Fire & Ice cycle, but those are much, much easier reading than the aforementioned.
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don't run swords in my cube but its power is obvious.
honestly i think some of the longest novels I have read are those old Red Wall novels when i was a kid. I think Mossflower was the second in the series and the longest of them all.
Not running any swords in my midrange list. Running just LaS in my combo cube - it's the least oppressive and offers some interesting build options.
War and Peace I don't think I've ever played with as I've never run all 5 swords in any iteration of my cube and this one just never made any top X lists for me. It's pretty linear. Swords all suffer from a high investment cost 3 + 2, and you have to connect. They also have double protection, making them either oppressive or just giving them useless flavor text in certain matchups. Adding to the variability, the ability on WaP is going to be really good against certain decks and subpar against others. It's just not what I'm looking for.
I was never much of an avid reader. Books on audio have changed that a bit for me (not sure this counts though), but I still have trouble staying focused on one story for an extended period. I'm older but I guess identify more with the "instant gratification" generation. I like my stories short and to the point. I also don't enjoy watching 2 minutes of credits at the beginning of a movie. Start the damn thing already.
Probably the least powerful Sword of X and Y in the cube environment, but that still makes it one of the best equipment available. The protections are second or third best but the ability is so variable that SoWaP can be a dud on a occasion. I run it and it's nowhere near the chopping block.
Not sure what the longest novel I've read is. Martin's A Storm of Swords is over 1,000 pages and I've read that multiple times. LOTR is long and I'm just about to finish my 13th or 14th reading. I've read the unabridged version of The Stand twice. The size of a book doesn't put me off; if it's a really good book, I usually end up wishing it was longer.
Sword of War and Peace is the weakest Sword, and will be the first of the cycle to get cut. It is the sword you play when you did not get enough of the better equipment.
The longest novels I've ever read in English are the Song of Fire and Ice series. Took me many months to finish each book.
I also think that War and Peace is the weakest Sword, because it just provides some extra damage and pseudo-lifelink, which isn't as unique or impactful as the other Swords' abilities. Still, much better than Loxodon Warhammer: two protections and 1 less to equip.
I don't know which was the longest novel I've read, probably LotR. I tend to shy away from the really heavy tomes like "War and Peace". I remember, as a kid the "Neverending Story" being my first big book. I thought that was really funny, as in, the book that literally never ends, because it would take me forever to finish.
I agree that it's the weakest Sword. That said, it provides decent protection and strong abilities for aggro mirrors, where this particular Sword can be pretty dominating.
Weakest sword because there is no Card advantage nor affects board presence, but I doubt it is going to be replaced soon. Plus, aside from lands, the swords is the only cycle left in my cube, after removing Frost Titan.
I'm not much of a Fiction reader, so no long novel stands out. I just read "typical" length novels like Michael Crichton Books or the Potter books.
Costing five mana makes it a bad answer to many of the cheaper targets.
In 720 with 10 fetches (+2 basic fetches), DRS was poor. It is one of the more maindeckable graveyard hate card if your cube needs that, but given our conditions we have found that:
1) He produces less than one mana per game on average
2) He is not good on the first turn, due to lack of targets and unwillingness to pay the mana for abilities that do not impact the board
3) He is very slow late
4) From our experience, we have found out you really want to have access to both colors
That said it is a card I want to be good in cube. If the need for more graveyard hate will rise, or a new cycle of fetches of some form will be printed, I'll give DRS another spin.
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He does all this at no additional cost since if your opponent kills or trades with him, you sunk no more resources into him than the average 2/1. The only way they can really "get" you is instant speed removal after you have but his indestructible trigger on the stack or after he becomes Gideon.
Even outside of agro he can do work in token decks, go wide strategies or even just filling in the low end of the curve in something more midrange that isn't a allways a dead card. Again, it's only a one mana investment with a pretty high ceiling.
I really like that we have been seeing a lot of small legendary creatures with fairly unique effects, Wizards seem a lot more comfortable pushing them pretty hard since they can't be as oppressive in standard/modern. I hope we see a bunch more in the coming sets and I expect to see another red 2/2 hasty 1 drop some day (even a legendary goblin guide maybe when we return to return to zendikar)
I enjoy boros agro a lot in cube, havnt went mono white in a long time.
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On acidic slime, has anyone ever felt the disconnect between the art and the mechanics? It looks a lot bigger than a 2/2 since the 1/1 solider it is holding is tiny but a bear would be a match for it. Apart for the landscape nothing about it looks like it destroys non-creatures.
Not saying I don't like the art, just its feels like it should be on some kind of larger ooze. I allways thought acidic slime should have been more like the promo art (though I'm not a fan of it), maybe a slime dissolving a guys weapon and arm with a skull floating in it.
I love playing W/X aggro decks. I don't play much mono-color aggro (of any color), if that's what the question is asking.
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I love playing W/X aggro decks. I don't play much mono-color aggro (of any color), if that's what the question is asking.
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I like playing white-based aggro quite a bit. Boros is fun, but my favorite is the Thalia/Braids deck our group calls BW Mean Girls. Kytheon fits in there just fine.
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I don't mind playing white aggro, though I usually tie it to something else.
I love playing white weenie decks, although usually splashing red or blue. It tends to be under-drafted, as a lot of the guys I play with are more interested in combo decks and doing "unfair" things. I get a kick out of playing a good "fair" deck with a good curve, disruption, and reach to keep the durdling in check.
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Of course I believe in life elsewhere. It's too big of a universe to be empty.
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I think it's naive to think that in the vast infinite space, there isn't one other celestial body capable of supporting some kind of life.
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Yes, there is definitely life out there. I'm pretty bullish on that. We may even find some evidence on Europa. If we do, it will be exceedingly controversial and there will be a fierce coalition of people that insist it's a hoax. Sadly.
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I also remain hopeful about the possibility of life on other planets, and I've been intrigued by some of the recent findings that at least the conditions to support life may be more plentiful and closer than we'd previously assumed.
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Longest novel I've read: well, I majored in philosophy and now teach English, so lots of them. The really big ones are Tolstoy's War & Peace and Anna Karenina, Gaddis's The Recognitions, and Wallace's Infinite Jest. I've read Martin's Song of Fire & Ice cycle, but those are much, much easier reading than the aforementioned.
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honestly i think some of the longest novels I have read are those old Red Wall novels when i was a kid. I think Mossflower was the second in the series and the longest of them all.
War and Peace I don't think I've ever played with as I've never run all 5 swords in any iteration of my cube and this one just never made any top X lists for me. It's pretty linear. Swords all suffer from a high investment cost 3 + 2, and you have to connect. They also have double protection, making them either oppressive or just giving them useless flavor text in certain matchups. Adding to the variability, the ability on WaP is going to be really good against certain decks and subpar against others. It's just not what I'm looking for.
I was never much of an avid reader. Books on audio have changed that a bit for me (not sure this counts though), but I still have trouble staying focused on one story for an extended period. I'm older but I guess identify more with the "instant gratification" generation. I like my stories short and to the point. I also don't enjoy watching 2 minutes of credits at the beginning of a movie. Start the damn thing already.
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Not sure what the longest novel I've read is. Martin's A Storm of Swords is over 1,000 pages and I've read that multiple times. LOTR is long and I'm just about to finish my 13th or 14th reading. I've read the unabridged version of The Stand twice. The size of a book doesn't put me off; if it's a really good book, I usually end up wishing it was longer.
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The longest novels I've ever read in English are the Song of Fire and Ice series. Took me many months to finish each book.
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I don't know which was the longest novel I've read, probably LotR. I tend to shy away from the really heavy tomes like "War and Peace". I remember, as a kid the "Neverending Story" being my first big book. I thought that was really funny, as in, the book that literally never ends, because it would take me forever to finish.
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I'm not much of a Fiction reader, so no long novel stands out. I just read "typical" length novels like Michael Crichton Books or the Potter books.