Tamiyo is probably my favourite blue card which I don't run. Ran her once I moved up to 450 then got cut when I went back to 360 and never made it back in even though I'm now at 540. Her problem was that she was awesome in 4-5 colour superfriends due to her +1 ability but her -2 was almost never used as it would always result in trading her in for the cards which never felt right. She's pretty decent in any blue control deck as the +1 locks down their best permanent and ticks her slowly towards a strong ultimate.
I'm having a few experiments with my list just now, if they don't pan out it's likely Tamiyo will make another appearance.
Tamiyo is a strong 'walker that I like to pick up when drafting other people's cubes. But I can't find room in my own, with the competition at the 5cc slot being so high.
I seem to see fewer and fewer people running her these days which is sad. I think she's probably at least the third best Blue Planeswalker, maybe even better than Jace Beleren in some cases. To me, that makes her 360 material.
Tamiyo is a powerful planeswalker in a color with the most powerful planeswalkers. I played her for a while and she can be brutal. However, more competition in blue and in the 5-CMC spot **cough MYSTIC CONFLUENCE cough** on top of increased token generation has weakened her overall.
I cut her at 540, she's a classic example of a strong card that's a victim of massive competition.
We run her, but for all the reasons previously outlined I could see us not running her. She just hasn't felt underpowered enough and our players like her that there's no reason to remove her in our eyes.
My biggest issue with her is she's kind of a one-trick pony. When that trick works--the +1 ability--it's awesome, but her - ability has proven to be kind of unreliable/underpowered in a lot of scenarios and often you can't afford to stop +'ing whatever you've been keeping locked down.
Tamiyo is a powerful planeswalker in a color with the most powerful planeswalkers. I played her for a while and she can be brutal. However, more competition in blue and in the 5-CMC spot **cough MYSTIC CONFLUENCE cough** on top of increased token generation has weakened her overall.
Tamiyo got bumped out of my cube for Mystic Confluence as well, and because she didn't do enough in the matchup against aggro, but I still feel like Tamiyo is one of the best blue cards I'm not running right now. I also feel a bit dirty for having Jaces as my only blue walkers. *sigh* Competition for 4+CMC cards in blue is absolutely brutal. It seems almost inevitable that there will be a new Tamiyo printed in Eldritch Moon. Maybe that will be good enough to force me to make room?
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I have been patiently waiting for her to show up in a duel deck or pre-con to drop her price but alas, that hasn't happened.
She seems good on paper and I need a second blue walker (I only allow for one of each character), she worth just biting the bullet and getting or is she likely to get bumped by the next decent non-jace walker?
Tamiyo is a solid planeswalker, and is actually a really good card, her only problem is that an avalanche of jace's just oversaturates blue's planeswalker count. I'm not one of those guys that hard limits planeswalkers, but when every other card is jace, its hard to justify a planeswalker that isnt P1P1 material.
She seems good on paper and I need a second blue walker (I only allow for one of each character), she worth just biting the bullet and getting or is she likely to get bumped by the next decent non-jace walker?
If she's not competing with the Jaces, Tamiyo is quite good, and she'd probably work better than Tezzeret, your only other option, in an unpowered cube. I'd wait until Eldritch Moon is spoiled though, in case Tamiyo is reprinted there or (more likely) a new version of Tamiyo comes out.
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Yea that's what I'm hoping, I have a weird thing against representing the same walker twice and I don't thing I could support tezzeret.
It takes me on a tangent of how tired I am of Jace being the go to blue walker and the general lack of characters, but I'm sure that's been done a million times and here isn't the place.
I use original jace so I would lean towards a bigger blue walker but there are so many jaces I'd honestly take anything.
It takes me on a tangent of how tired I am of Jace being the go to blue walker and the general lack of characters, but I'm sure that's been done a million times and here isn't the place.
It's not just flavor that makes too many of a single planeswalker type be a problem, even though I'm also getting a bit sick of Jace, it means your drafters can't have more than one blue walker in play at a time. I actually really like Jace, Architect of Thought quite a bit, but once I got a copy of Jace, Vryn's Prodigy I decided that Jace #4 had to go.
I think she is the second best blue 5cc in general, after Jace, Memory Adept. Tezzeret has a higher ceiling but lower average performance and she is better than the latest Jace
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Er.. anyway... Reflector Mage is a boss. Stuck him in my kids' powered down Peasant Cube, and he hasn't looked back. I've had a person or two advocate for it making it all the way into my primary cube.
I was initially resistant to running Reflector because it meant cutting Detention Sphere. I got over that resistance pretty fast. Once you see it in play, you'll realize it's at least the third best Azorius card and I could be convinced it's the second best. It should be in every cube that runs enough gold cards. It pushes tempo decks, which I love, but it's totally fine in control for buying time. Pretty sick with Nightmare, Mimic Vat, or blinks stuff.
I consider Reflector Mage to be in the top 3 Azorius cards. Being printed in the same set as Eldrazi Displacer has really boosted the blink strategy. The added "can't cast until your next turn" is one of the most annoying clauses in the cube.
Brago and Venser are better at supporting blink. Detention Sphere and Supreme Verdict are just stronger in general. It's a worthy inclusion, but it hasn't bumped any of those 4 for me (and I only have room for 3 anyway).
EDIT: I think you could argue Sphinx's Revelation is stronger as well.
I'd play it over Verdict or of the bounce supporters, as I feel the UW deck doesn't need both and there are a trillion wraths you could play. I'd probably play it over one of the blink-supporters first.
I may try the Mage out over detention sphere if I get a copy. Sphere is good and hosing tokens is a nice upside but it's kinda dull sometimes and I already run oblivion ring and banishing light so it has always felt a bit boring using a guild spot for redundancy (I have similar feelings on supreme verdict).
As was mentioned before Reflector Mage is great in Tempo and still desirable in control while not being a relatively boring removal like detention sphere.
That's why I would actually rank him number one in Azorius. Not for power reasons but because I can't image a blue-white deck in my cube that wouldn't be excited to run him.
Just realised I had medomai the ageless still in my cube (hasn't made the cut in a long time), I think I'll pick a Mage up on payday and give him a shot.
I'm also a huge fan of this card, as I mentioned with Venser, Shaper Savant I'm a sucker for just about any Man-o'-War variant. Since there are already 3 3CMC variants of Oblivion Ring I just couldn't see holding a precious gold spot for yet another with Detention Sphere, so I was happy to cut it to make room for this card. I do, however, think that Supreme Verdict is a more important cube card than Reflector Mage even if it is redundant, because 4-mana Wrath effects are so important for control decks to have a fighting chance against aggro decks, while spot removal is more replaceable.
I like the art on this card, too. I don't have a foil yet, but I bet the lens flare will pop in foil.
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My biggest issue with her is she's kind of a one-trick pony. When that trick works--the +1 ability--it's awesome, but her - ability has proven to be kind of unreliable/underpowered in a lot of scenarios and often you can't afford to stop +'ing whatever you've been keeping locked down.
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Tamiyo got bumped out of my cube for Mystic Confluence as well, and because she didn't do enough in the matchup against aggro, but I still feel like Tamiyo is one of the best blue cards I'm not running right now. I also feel a bit dirty for having Jaces as my only blue walkers. *sigh* Competition for 4+CMC cards in blue is absolutely brutal. It seems almost inevitable that there will be a new Tamiyo printed in Eldritch Moon. Maybe that will be good enough to force me to make room?
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She seems good on paper and I need a second blue walker (I only allow for one of each character), she worth just biting the bullet and getting or is she likely to get bumped by the next decent non-jace walker?
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If she's not competing with the Jaces, Tamiyo is quite good, and she'd probably work better than Tezzeret, your only other option, in an unpowered cube. I'd wait until Eldritch Moon is spoiled though, in case Tamiyo is reprinted there or (more likely) a new version of Tamiyo comes out.
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It takes me on a tangent of how tired I am of Jace being the go to blue walker and the general lack of characters, but I'm sure that's been done a million times and here isn't the place.
I use original jace so I would lean towards a bigger blue walker but there are so many jaces I'd honestly take anything.
It's not just flavor that makes too many of a single planeswalker type be a problem, even though I'm also getting a bit sick of Jace, it means your drafters can't have more than one blue walker in play at a time. I actually really like Jace, Architect of Thought quite a bit, but once I got a copy of Jace, Vryn's Prodigy I decided that Jace #4 had to go.
Since you are sick of Jace, you might get a kick out of watching the Professor take him down a peg here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCWN6IgPj94
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EDIT: I think you could argue Sphinx's Revelation is stronger as well.
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I like the art on this card, too. I don't have a foil yet, but I bet the lens flare will pop in foil.
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