I dont think my 360 unpowered has room for signets, But this will fit. I think if i went to 450 i would cut it for the signet cycl and run signets and this at 540+
Like what was said above, every deck that wants a mana rock will play it.
We played with snow covered lands for years, but we have cut that a long time ago. In ages past, Skred was a good red removal and Mouth of Ronom a strong utility land. By the end the only card that we had left was Into the North, but the added rules baggage was not worth it.
I really don't like this card. There are better colorless manafacts. And for fixing, there are Signets and Talismans. Wouldn't run Coldsteel Heart before 720 cards or so.
I thought about including snow cards, but there are only two or three that are worth the inclusion in cube. And that is just not enough to switch out all my basic lands, imo.
My favourite X spell? It changes a lot nowadays... I have great fondness for splittable burn spells like Comet Storm, Rolling Thunder and Aurelia's Fury, but RSZ has been really valuable in our cube due to its recursion (gee that ability is handy in a 40-card deck).
Do I believe in miracles? Absolutely, it's a top-tier Legacy deck! And now srsly IRL, yes... I'm a bit of a walking one, TBH.
We found out that without ways to set up the miracle in your deck it was not worth playing. Unmiracled it is expensive and underwhelming. If you cannot shuffle the card and/or manipulate your top, it is drawn in the opening hand too often and you will flip this in bad situations (turns 1-2, when you do not have a red source, when it will simply be weaker than other plays to pay for it). When you have Brainstorm, Jace TMS, Scroll Rack, Mystical Tutor and the like the card is fantastic but those effects are too rare to easily build that deck in a large cube.
We absolutely love Bonfire here as its powerful with synergies that can be built around. Ramp/midrange/control decks use it as a lopsided one-sided sweeper, but we've even found aggressive strategies will use it as the top of their curve for both the fact that it gives outs to most game situations, AND probably the most important reason being that it deals with tokens very effectively without having to resort to cards like ratchet bomb/powder keg/engineered explosives.
A little late, but I've had snow in my cube for approximately 9 years, and the actual payoff card is Cold Snap. Card is a white Vortex on steroids in a good number of games.
Bonfire feels broken in some windows and completely lackluster in others (either because you draw it early or because the timing window is incorrect when it's drawn). Ultimately decided to cut it, and it's not an effect we miss.
Favorite X spell is probably one of the Earthquakes or Mind Twist.
Bonfire's another card I kind of missed my chance to try, as I traded into my copy at around the same time as FTV:Annihilation came out, so it ended up losing out to cheap foils of Rolling Earthquake and Burning of Xinye. It seemed to be dropping out of other people's cubes at around the same time, so I think I made the right choice. I think I'm happy to not be bothering with having it as my only Miracle card, too, as I'm not running very many ways to manipulate the top of the library, and it seems like an annoying mechanic to have for just a single card.
I'm a man of simple tastes, my favorite x spell is Rolling Earthquake, especially since it references a mechanic that is otherwise completely absent from my cube.
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A little late, but I've had snow in my cube for approximately 9 years, and the actual payoff card is Cold Snap. Card is a white Vortex on steroids in a good number of games.
I was always worried that players will just demand to play regular basics instead. You can house rule and say it is not possible, but it is not an official one and as a punisher mechanic (for basic lands, no less) I'm not sure it will be worth the explanation to new players, confusion and feel bad moments. Was it ever a problem?
It was for us. I had the keep answering the question "why do I have to use snow basics?" ...since Cold Snap was such an incredibly feel-bad card which had a powerlevel that seemed so arbitrary.
Ultimately, if you support mana, I think that snow-covered basics should be an option for players that want to use them, not forced on them and then punish them for it.
I also cut my Bonfire in order to give Red more consistent fireballs like Rolling Earthquake and Devil's Play. Don't think I'll look back, as I'm not upgrading from 360 any time soon.
I don't play Bonfire. I don't need another of those effects and the mechanic is kind of annoying, I think.
Favorite X-spells are probably Earthquake and Hangarback Walker. And actually, there's a neat little synergy there. I also like Profane Command because of its flexibility.
Do I believe in miracles? I believe in David Hume, who ended the debate over miracles a few centuries ago, as far as I'm concerned.
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Bonfire is a very swingy card, but ultimately decided to cut it. It's funny to me that this is the random card of the day, because I've been thinking of re-tooling my red section and last night I was thought "maybe I should bring Bonfire back?" Subterannean Tremors might edge out Bonfire overall though.
Favorite X spell? Chalice of the Void, hands down.
**** miracle cards. Just **** them. There is only one single good thing about them and that is the creation of the best Magic gif of all time.
Conceringing X-spells, I think I like Unexpectedly Absent the most. I was only looking at my cube and might be missing some card that I don't currently run.
Bonfire got taken out at one point, not for underperforming, just to test other cards, and then i put it back in when i remembered how insane it was sometimes. Its main detriment is the stigma of not miracling it, but honestly its probably a 80-20 split in favor of miracling it, and its serviceable in its bad mode.
A lot of people have nostalgia around certain cards for being "moments in magic history" and Id say this is definitely one of those cards. That topdeck Bonfire on Kibler.
I love X spells, black sun'z zenith was probably my favorite cube card until toxic deluge and Languish appeared.
I don't Play bonfire, but I don't think it is that pertinent for cubes to have.
I do have Thunderous Wrath, which I know is not a well liked card, but my group enjoys the card so I keep it for now but will get chopped one day.
Miracles are ok, not great. I don't think they are designed for cubes very well.
My favorite X-spell is Subterranean Tremors right now. Such a fund card
Crystal Shard is in my kids' Peasant cube. It's really, really good in Peasant.
True story time: I built a glorious blue 8-Post multiplayer free-for-all deck to rush out Eldrazi, and filled it with Crystal Shards and Icy Manipulators to stall people out until I landed something threatening. And then, one day, I managed to land Emrakul with a Crystal Shard in play and U open... and I blinked and realized I'd won the game.
Favourite uncommon? Tough question! Strictly speaking, Force of Will is an uncommon in its original form, I suppose.
Crystal Shard is so awesome. It's a card I think is generally underrated, probably because I don't think any iteration of the modo cube has included it.
I recently picked up Crystal Shard and plan to give it some play time. So far I do not have much experience with it, but I have a heavy blink theme so I can imagine it is strong.
Favorite uncommon is probably Path To Exile. Just fantastic removal. I am always afraid that my opponent has it and can alter my game plan.
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We played with snow covered lands for years, but we have cut that a long time ago. In ages past, Skred was a good red removal and Mouth of Ronom a strong utility land. By the end the only card that we had left was Into the North, but the added rules baggage was not worth it.
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I thought about including snow cards, but there are only two or three that are worth the inclusion in cube. And that is just not enough to switch out all my basic lands, imo.
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My favourite X spell? It changes a lot nowadays... I have great fondness for splittable burn spells like Comet Storm, Rolling Thunder and Aurelia's Fury, but RSZ has been really valuable in our cube due to its recursion (gee that ability is handy in a 40-card deck).
Do I believe in miracles? Absolutely, it's a top-tier Legacy deck! And now srsly IRL, yes... I'm a bit of a walking one, TBH.
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Favorite X-spells are Mind Twist for power level and Green Sun's Zenith for building around.
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A little late, but I've had snow in my cube for approximately 9 years, and the actual payoff card is Cold Snap. Card is a white Vortex on steroids in a good number of games.
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Favorite X spell is probably one of the Earthquakes or Mind Twist.
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I'm a man of simple tastes, my favorite x spell is Rolling Earthquake, especially since it references a mechanic that is otherwise completely absent from my cube.
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I was always worried that players will just demand to play regular basics instead. You can house rule and say it is not possible, but it is not an official one and as a punisher mechanic (for basic lands, no less) I'm not sure it will be worth the explanation to new players, confusion and feel bad moments. Was it ever a problem?
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Ultimately, if you support mana, I think that snow-covered basics should be an option for players that want to use them, not forced on them and then punish them for it.
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Favorite X-spells are probably Earthquake and Hangarback Walker. And actually, there's a neat little synergy there. I also like Profane Command because of its flexibility.
Do I believe in miracles? I believe in David Hume, who ended the debate over miracles a few centuries ago, as far as I'm concerned.
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Favorite X spell? Chalice of the Void, hands down.
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Conceringing X-spells, I think I like Unexpectedly Absent the most. I was only looking at my cube and might be missing some card that I don't currently run.
Uril, the Miststalker RGW -- Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre C -- Vhati il-Dal BG -- Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer RW -- Animar, Soul of Elements URG
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker R -- Maga, Traitor to Mortals B -- Ghave, Guru of Spores BGW -- Sliver Hivelord WUBRG
A lot of people have nostalgia around certain cards for being "moments in magic history" and Id say this is definitely one of those cards. That topdeck Bonfire on Kibler.
I love X spells, black sun'z zenith was probably my favorite cube card until toxic deluge and Languish appeared.
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It's a good card, I wouldn't question someone using it at 450 or 540. Not many red X spells have made it into my cube.
I do have Thunderous Wrath, which I know is not a well liked card, but my group enjoys the card so I keep it for now but will get chopped one day.
Miracles are ok, not great. I don't think they are designed for cubes very well.
My favorite X-spell is Subterranean Tremors right now. Such a fund card
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Glad to hear that's testing well for you, I'm looking forward to trying it. Has anyone made a Lizard token with it yet?
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True story time: I built a glorious blue 8-Post multiplayer free-for-all deck to rush out Eldrazi, and filled it with Crystal Shards and Icy Manipulators to stall people out until I landed something threatening. And then, one day, I managed to land Emrakul with a Crystal Shard in play and U open... and I blinked and realized I'd won the game.
Favourite uncommon? Tough question! Strictly speaking, Force of Will is an uncommon in its original form, I suppose.
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Favorite uncommon is probably Path To Exile. Just fantastic removal. I am always afraid that my opponent has it and can alter my game plan.