Even the most aggressive decks have enough non-creature spells to push Mentor into 'insane' territory.
Considering that most aggro decks run 16-18 creatures and only 8-6 non-creature spells, Mentor is only ok in aggro and far from insane. It's barely worth its cost if you cast only one non-creature after it. It needs two to become actually good.
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Very similar to my Cube. Mine isnt the tightest of lists, I think this allows fringe playable and pet cards to really flourish. My playgroup arent grizzled vets either, they are all pretty new to Magic so for now, this is just fine. In terms of the deck Mentor would sit best in, I do allow for this kind of thing and cant wait to see him be used to full affect.
I'm considering adding it for an big cube event soon. Seems good for control deck or aggro deck that use either anthem or planeswalkers. But before conforming my move, I wan't to make sure he's fine and avoid mistake. How does the Mentor is doing for you guys so far?
My actual cut for him would be Silverblade Paladin? Is Mentor better in your opinion?
I might also cut Hokori, Dust Drinker, but I rather cut a 3-drop because I don't want that section going below 6.
Played a few games with mentor the other day. I was playing U/W Control, had the Forbid as well as Force of Will in my pool, and a few other protection cards.
He has been run in three decks so far for my cube. The first two decks saw him die every time he hit the board before he was able to make a token. The third deck was an Izzet spells matter deck that splashed white solely for him, and he wrecked face in it. Definitely a solid inclusion for your Cube.
Hello everyone, ultimately this card seems to not find a home in our decks.
Sometimes players usually prefers more solid and low variance options and Monastery Mentor is simply not picked, not maindecked due to high creature count or dies on turn three without any trigger (which is a lame). It seems to be a white card that wants to be blue or red to be pushed into spells matter decks.
How has it been your experience with him right now? Any suggestions about where/how to play it?
I personally think he's great. White is one of the least splashed colours at the moment, as it tends to not do very broken stuff, with exceptions like Balance, Armageddon etc. Monastery Mentor is a shift in the right direction for white, as a splashable threat with a high power ceiling.
Hello everyone, ultimately this card seems to not find a home in our decks.
Sometimes players usually prefers more solid and low variance options and Monastery Mentor is simply not picked, not maindecked due to high creature count or dies on turn three without any trigger (which is a lame). It seems to be a white card that wants to be blue or red to be pushed into spells matter decks.
How has it been your experience with him right now? Any suggestions about where/how to play it?
Great! Wouldn't cut anything for it and think its the 2nd best 3 drop behind the Lion.
It got 19th place on the Cube Power Rankings - White, better than many good cards like Catastrophe, Elspeth Sun's Champion, Sun Titan and Baneslayer Angel.
I think it's a *fantastic* 3-drop, one of my absolute favorites. It's one of those cards that just run away with the game if you let them. We had a Mentor vs Pack Rat show-down once, I was sure the rats would win - but Mentor won the day quite handily.
Monastery Mentor is a really good creature. There are some decks it doesn't slot into perfectly, but those instances are pretty rare. The average cube deck can break Mentor pretty easily.
Yeah sometimes it dies on turn 3, and then other times it wins the game on its own as you cast spells. The former does happen, but that's because if it doesn't then your opponent loses the game, and usually they aren't interested in just letting you kill them.
probably goes without saying but monastery mentor is the stone cold nuts in a powered cube. i ran a jeskai deck with mentor recently and picked up 3(!!!!) moxen and i took over games incredibly easily.
probably goes without saying but monastery mentor is the stone cold nuts in a powered cube. i ran a jeskai deck with mentor recently and picked up 3(!!!!) moxen and i took over games incredibly easily.
Yeah there's a reason it is its own archetype in vintage.
Hello everyone, ultimately this card seems to not find a home in our decks.
Players usually prefer more solid and low variance options and Monastery Mentor is simply not picked, not maindecked due to high creature count or dies on turn three without any trigger (which is a lame). It seems to be a white card that wants to be blue or red to be pushed into spells matter decks.
How has it been your experience with him right now? Any suggestions about where/how to play it?
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In a large unpowered cube he's probably borderline to make the cut and certainly a low pick.
In a tight powered cube, mentor is amazing. Doesn't go in that many decks, but the decks he's meant for, he's extremly powerful.
You really need to be trigger him reasonably consistantly to play him, if you can trigger him multiple times in a turn he's absurd. Has one of the highest power ceilings of a creature in cube.
I do agree he's absurd in the decks that he can really be abused in like Jeskai spells matter/Opposition decks, but he's still very good at getting board presence off of cheap rocks/removal/cantrips/tutors so we run Mentor in almost all our control decks that have access to W mana. If push came to shove I'd keep Brimaaz, but Mentor is ahead of every other 3cc creature in white on my list.
probably goes without saying but monastery mentor is the stone cold nuts in a powered cube. i ran a jeskai deck with mentor recently and picked up 3(!!!!) moxen and i took over games incredibly easily.
to be fair a deck with 3 moxen in my cube tends to win even if the rest of the cards are 37 kird apes.
Monastery mentor is good even in balanced decks between creatures and noncreatures, a lot of the time he can just get you some incidental board advantage, which is neat.
Not sure if I'd have room for it in a smaller Cube, but I love Mentor in my Cube. I recently built a Jeskai "spells matter" deck featuring Mentor, and the deck was super fun and pretty competitive (went 2-1). Someone came up to me as I was playing and said fondly, "I was wondering if this archetype could be built in your Cube." As a Cube designer I enjoy moments like that.
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Very similar to my Cube. Mine isnt the tightest of lists, I think this allows fringe playable and pet cards to really flourish. My playgroup arent grizzled vets either, they are all pretty new to Magic so for now, this is just fine. In terms of the deck Mentor would sit best in, I do allow for this kind of thing and cant wait to see him be used to full affect.
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My actual cut for him would be Silverblade Paladin? Is Mentor better in your opinion?
I might also cut Hokori, Dust Drinker, but I rather cut a 3-drop because I don't want that section going below 6.
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I personally think he's great. White is one of the least splashed colours at the moment, as it tends to not do very broken stuff, with exceptions like Balance, Armageddon etc. Monastery Mentor is a shift in the right direction for white, as a splashable threat with a high power ceiling.
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Great! Wouldn't cut anything for it and think its the 2nd best 3 drop behind the Lion.
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In a large unpowered cube he's probably borderline to make the cut and certainly a low pick.
In a tight powered cube, mentor is amazing. Doesn't go in that many decks, but the decks he's meant for, he's extremly powerful.
You really need to be trigger him reasonably consistantly to play him, if you can trigger him multiple times in a turn he's absurd. Has one of the highest power ceilings of a creature in cube.
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to be fair a deck with 3 moxen in my cube tends to win even if the rest of the cards are 37 kird apes.
Monastery mentor is good even in balanced decks between creatures and noncreatures, a lot of the time he can just get you some incidental board advantage, which is neat.
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Iff it didn't, few of them can take over game like Monastery Mentor did.
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