Admittedly, I'm mostly guessing on the last two as I don't have actual cube experience with them.
Plague Belcher > Liliana > Ammit Eternal
Plague Belcher has been pretty solid. There are some sweet synergies for the -1/-1 counters that offset the drawback. It's five power with Menace more often than not. I currently prefer it slightly to Liliana, Heretical Healer, but honestly that could go either way. Ammit Eternal was a lot less impressive than I had hoped. It didn't last long in the cube.
Keep Smash to Smithereens, Earthshaker Khenra, and Glorybringer.
Keep Noose Constrictor, Yasova Dragonclaw, Tooth and Nail, and Rhonas the Indomitable. I've seen some negative feedback about Rhonas around here, but I thought he was pretty decent.
Thank you so much! I know there's a lot of questions in there but I definitely needed the help! If I could get at least two more responses on this I can proceed with some changes.
I posted my questions here and on Reddit and the responses have been really varied, but a few constants.
Angelic Destiny is definitely a cut. Most people ranked them 1) Entreat 2) Sumblime 3)Linvala 4)Destiny. I'm curious as to why you gave Linvala the edge Wtwlf. I think I agree to be honest, white 4CC is a crowded space with existing powerful Angels(Gisela, Resto, Exalted via morph), it is weak to red, wants you to have more creatures but to only attack with one. It seems to be a bit of a nonbo with itself except in instances where it alone can go unblocked in the air and get in for big damage. Linvala on the other hand has a worst case scenario of being a 5/5 flyer for 4WW but only when you're already ahead on life and creature count. If you're behind on Life she does a nice Thragtusk impression and if you're behind on board she nets you a whopping eight flying power over two bodies. This seems to be what control style decks want in my estimation. Also the 6CC creature spot in White has Sun Titan and that's it. The only other high CC drop in white is Elesh Norn.
Unfortunately, for my hopes of replacing Liliana most responses said she is the best of the three so she stays for now.
Aristocrat won out based on all responses. Grenzo and Vial Smasher seem very evenly matched and I'll probably test both.
For Red there was a consensus on Earthshaker Khenra and Glorybringer, but for the third card I got Smash to Smithereens, Hero of Oxid Ridge, and Hordeling Outburst
For Green there was consensus on Tooth and Nail and then Yasova, Rhonas, Constrictor, and Song all got the next most votes. Curse of Predation was a clear loser.
Aristocrat won out based on all responses. Grenzo and Vial Smasher seem very evenly matched and I'll probably test both.
Oh, man, I missed this one. We've been running Vial Smasher for a while now and he's always a crowd favorite. Aristocrat is likely the better card, but Smasher has been surprisingly fun. Him being a three drop as opposed to a four drop is also really nice. At the very least Vial Smasher has been quite a bit better than Grenzo ever was.
For Green there was consensus on Tooth and Nail and then Yasova, Rhonas, Constrictor, and Song all got the next most votes. Curse of Predation was a clear loser.
FWIW, I recently cut Rhonas and still run Curse of Predation. My advice for you to keep Rhonas was based on your lack of green aggro support. Anyone supporting green as an aggressive color should definitely be running Curse.
I would say Thassa = Obstructionist > Baral >> Riftwing Cloudskate >>> Clutch of Currents
Baneslayer is the clear cut as Lyra is nearly identical with a few modifications that on the whole are stronger. Ranking wise I would put Angel of Invention first, then Lyra/BSA, and Relic Seeker last though it doesn't obviously compete with the first two.
I'm curious as to why you gave Linvala the edge...
Because I don't think any of those cards are good, but at least Linvala is a remotely passable 6cc creature, of which there is only 1 other option in white. I wouldn't cube with any of those other white cards.
Hmmm....I'm not so sure. Entreat has been incredible on a frequent basis in my experience but YMMV. Sublime seems to be working for a lot of people as most responses (on twitter) put Sublime 1st or 2nd, but my experience does mirror yours on this one at least.
Sublime > Linvala = Entreat >> Angelic Destiny
Glorybringer, Earthshaker Khenra, Smash to Smithereens
Liliana > Ammit Eternal > Plague Bearer
Aristocrat = Smasher >> Grenzo
Song is the best card, I don't play green aggro so hard for me to comment on the rest.
Cube players must be loving durdles these days, 'cause Serendib Efreet hits people hard and ends games fast. There's not a lot comparable to him for blue-based Tempo decks imo.
I know I'm a little late to this one, but I've gotten to play a lot with Arcane Artisan, and it's really, really good. Definitely better than the other two.
Mage >> Efreet = Artisan (I think Mage is going to be a near staple, Efreet is decent in tempo, and Artisan was pretty bad in testing, and we tested a lot of it)
Pyromancer > Chaser > Shaman > Mauler > Fanatic (these are all super close and largely interchangeable)
Graverobber > Render (Render was lackluster in testing; I'd go with Graverobber still, though admittedly I like it more than most)
Vivien > Nissa (Nissa was weak in testing, so I'd play Vivien over it for now, to give her a fair shake)
Spiritkeeper > Crusader > Resplendent Angel > History of Benalia > Fairgrounds Warden. I'm not quite confident about HoB's place, so the last three might change places.
I'm guessing Isareth > Liliana > Hippie
I believe you meant the new Pegasus that exiles graveyards? I think it is >> Anafenza
Spiritkeeper > Crusader > Resplendent Angel > History of Benalia > Fairgrounds Warden. I'm not quite confident about HoB's place, so the last three might change places.
I'd have to respectfully disagree here. Fairgrounds Warden is imo leagues better than the others here, I don't think it's even remotely close.
Bramble Sovereign > Vizier of the Menagerie
Not a fan of either, but Legion's Landing > Stormfront Pegasus I guess.
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Entreat the Angels vs. Angelic Destiny vs. Sublime Archangel vs. Linvala, the Preserver
Liliana, Heretical Healer vs. Plague Belcher vs. Ammit Eternal
Falkenrath Aristocrat vs. Grenzo, Dungeon Warden vs. Vial Smasher the Fierce
Run Three (Only one of which may be a five-drop)
Smash to Smithereens
Staggershock
Hero of Oxid Ridge
Earthshaker Khenra
Hordeling Outburst
Tempt with Vengeance
Glorybringer or Goblin Dark-Dwellers
Run Four
Noose Constrictor
Rhonas the Indomitable
Yasova Dragonclaw
Tooth and Nail
Curse of Predation
Song of the Dryads
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Admittedly, I'm mostly guessing on the last two as I don't have actual cube experience with them.
Plague Belcher > Liliana > Ammit Eternal
Plague Belcher has been pretty solid. There are some sweet synergies for the -1/-1 counters that offset the drawback. It's five power with Menace more often than not. I currently prefer it slightly to Liliana, Heretical Healer, but honestly that could go either way. Ammit Eternal was a lot less impressive than I had hoped. It didn't last long in the cube.
Keep Smash to Smithereens, Earthshaker Khenra, and Glorybringer.
Keep Noose Constrictor, Yasova Dragonclaw, Tooth and Nail, and Rhonas the Indomitable. I've seen some negative feedback about Rhonas around here, but I thought he was pretty decent.
Don't move Dryad Militant.
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Liliana > Belcher = Eternal
Grenzo >> Aristocrat = Smasher
Khenra, Smash & Glorybringer
Tooth & Nail, Constrictor, Yasova & Song
Keep Militant in Selesnya (or if you do open a free slot, don't give it to Mirri)
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Angelic Destiny is definitely a cut. Most people ranked them 1) Entreat 2) Sumblime 3)Linvala 4)Destiny. I'm curious as to why you gave Linvala the edge Wtwlf. I think I agree to be honest, white 4CC is a crowded space with existing powerful Angels(Gisela, Resto, Exalted via morph), it is weak to red, wants you to have more creatures but to only attack with one. It seems to be a bit of a nonbo with itself except in instances where it alone can go unblocked in the air and get in for big damage. Linvala on the other hand has a worst case scenario of being a 5/5 flyer for 4WW but only when you're already ahead on life and creature count. If you're behind on Life she does a nice Thragtusk impression and if you're behind on board she nets you a whopping eight flying power over two bodies. This seems to be what control style decks want in my estimation. Also the 6CC creature spot in White has Sun Titan and that's it. The only other high CC drop in white is Elesh Norn.
Unfortunately, for my hopes of replacing Liliana most responses said she is the best of the three so she stays for now.
Aristocrat won out based on all responses. Grenzo and Vial Smasher seem very evenly matched and I'll probably test both.
For Red there was a consensus on Earthshaker Khenra and Glorybringer, but for the third card I got Smash to Smithereens, Hero of Oxid Ridge, and Hordeling Outburst
For Green there was consensus on Tooth and Nail and then Yasova, Rhonas, Constrictor, and Song all got the next most votes. Curse of Predation was a clear loser.
Finally, I won't include Mirri.
Oh, man, I missed this one. We've been running Vial Smasher for a while now and he's always a crowd favorite. Aristocrat is likely the better card, but Smasher has been surprisingly fun. Him being a three drop as opposed to a four drop is also really nice. At the very least Vial Smasher has been quite a bit better than Grenzo ever was.
FWIW, I recently cut Rhonas and still run Curse of Predation. My advice for you to keep Rhonas was based on your lack of green aggro support. Anyone supporting green as an aggressive color should definitely be running Curse.
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Thassa, God of the Sea
Nimble Obstructionist
Clutch of Currents
Baral, Chief of Compliance
Riftwing Cloudskate
Also trying to make the cut for Lyra Dawnbringer, how do folks rank these:
Baneslayer Angel
Angel of Invention
Relic Seeker
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Baneslayer is the clear cut as Lyra is nearly identical with a few modifications that on the whole are stronger. Ranking wise I would put Angel of Invention first, then Lyra/BSA, and Relic Seeker last though it doesn't obviously compete with the first two.
Because I don't think any of those cards are good, but at least Linvala is a remotely passable 6cc creature, of which there is only 1 other option in white. I wouldn't cube with any of those other white cards.
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Thassa moves to the top if you're actively trying to push a blue devotion strategy. Otherwise she might legitimately be at the bottom of that list.
Cloudskate > Obstructionist >> Clutch = Baral ≥ Thassa
Angel of Invention >> Lyra ≥ Baneslayer > Relic Seeker, though the latter doesn't really compete against the other three cards.
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Sublime > Linvala = Entreat >> Angelic Destiny
Glorybringer, Earthshaker Khenra, Smash to Smithereens
Liliana > Ammit Eternal > Plague Bearer
Aristocrat = Smasher >> Grenzo
Song is the best card, I don't play green aggro so hard for me to comment on the rest.
Obstructionist > Cloudskate > Baral > Clutch > Thassa
Angel of Invention > Lyra > Baneslayer > Seeker
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3 - Nezumi Graverobber vs Mindblade Render ?
4 - Vivien Reid vs Nissa, Vital Force ?
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I know I'm a little late to this one, but I've gotten to play a lot with Arcane Artisan, and it's really, really good. Definitely better than the other two.
Mage >> Efreet = Artisan (I think Mage is going to be a near staple, Efreet is decent in tempo, and Artisan was pretty bad in testing, and we tested a lot of it)
Pyromancer > Chaser > Shaman > Mauler > Fanatic (these are all super close and largely interchangeable)
Graverobber > Render (Render was lackluster in testing; I'd go with Graverobber still, though admittedly I like it more than most)
Vivien > Nissa (Nissa was weak in testing, so I'd play Vivien over it for now, to give her a fair shake)
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2 - Isareth, the Awakener vs Hypnotic Specter vs Liliana, Heretical Healer ? What order ?
3 - Metamorphic Alteration vs Vizier of Many Faces ?
4 - Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit vs Stormfront Pegasus ?
5 - Nissa, Vital Force vs Whisperwood Elemental ?
Spiritkeeper > Crusader > Resplendent Angel > History of Benalia > Fairgrounds Warden. I'm not quite confident about HoB's place, so the last three might change places.
I'm guessing Isareth > Liliana > Hippie
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I'd have to respectfully disagree here. Fairgrounds Warden is imo leagues better than the others here, I don't think it's even remotely close.