I'm a few sets behind on my updates. I run a 630 card powered list. Here's a list of the cards I'm about to buy. I'd be curious to know if any of the cards on this list looked great and have already been cut. Ob Nixilis, The Adversary's a good example. Folks were calling for his ban early in his standard run and now he seems to see 0 play.
SNC:
Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
Titan of Industry
Workshop Warchief (iffy)
All-Seeing Arbiter (iffy)
Inspiring Overseer (iffy)
I'm a few sets behind on my updates. I run a 630 card powered list. Here's a list of the cards I'm about to buy. I'd be curious to know if any of the cards on this list looked great and have already been cut. Ob Nixilis, The Adversary's a good example. Folks were calling for his ban early in his standard run and now he seems to see 0 play.
SNC:
Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
Titan of Industry
Workshop Warchief (iffy)
All-Seeing Arbiter (iffy)
Inspiring Overseer (iffy)
I'm fine with most of these in my 540 cube. The only ones I'd still be iffy on if I were to expand my cube would be Inspiring Overseer / Serra Paragon.
Emeria's Call > Reveillark > Serra Paragon > Sun Titan
My thought process:
Decent effect on a land maindecked ~100% of the time > creature with amazing value if it dies; no need for mana payment > creature with amazing value if it doesn't die; often requires mana payment > great value even if it dies but costs 6 mana up front.
I'm a few sets behind on my updates. I run a 630 card powered list. Here's a list of the cards I'm about to buy. I'd be curious to know if any of the cards on this list looked great and have already been cut. Ob Nixilis, The Adversary's a good example. Folks were calling for his ban early in his standard run and now he seems to see 0 play.
SNC:
Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
Titan of Industry
Workshop Warchief (iffy)
All-Seeing Arbiter (iffy)
Inspiring Overseer (iffy)
- Ob, Nixilis can be incredible in the black-red aristocrats archetype, but at its core its more or less another rabblemaster variants. Its def a good card, but its also very replacable.
- Delayed Fireblast is a less flexible variant of the Earthquake X variants.
- Aether Channeler has been underwhelming, I would only play it if your cube has some form of Aluren loop
- Sheoldred is good .. I drafted her twice during Domanria and its been an absolute bomb. In many ways its a mono color Siege Rhino with wheel combo potential. She's even stronger in 2022 as heavier fair beats aren't too common in cube.
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I'm already running Brainstorm, Preordain, Ponder, and Consider. Looking to add at least one more. This is for a 465 card Powered cube.
Thanks!
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Rankings can differ depending on context: they're all good on their own, it's just a matter of what you want to support more:
- Chart a Course if you need more discard outlets. This is probably a top 3 blue discard outlet in my book alongside Occult Epiphany / Jace, Vryn's Prodigy.
- Gitaxian Probe if you need more graveyard critical mass (Delve / Uro / etc) / spells matters / storm support.
- Consider > Opt, a card is generally more useful in your graveyard than the bottom of your library. That being said you can't go wrong with either of them. These would be my choice to support draw / go.
- Sleight of Hand digs the deepest at 1 mana, probably the best choice if you need to bolster combo in general.
-Thalia
-Stoneforge
-Charming Prince
-Wall of Omens
would you cut some of them for some of the missing ones?
Selfless Spirit / Luminarch Aspirant / Lion Sash / Adanto Vanguard / Seasoned Hallowblade are all very solid. Could make an argument for them over Charming Prince / Wall of Omens if you want more aggro options.
My 420 card Unpowered Vintage Cube:
- Cube Cobra (up-to-date)
- MTG Salvation (outdated; my posts seem to have been deleted at some point, unfortunately)
SNC:
Ob Nixilis, the Adversary
Titan of Industry
Workshop Warchief (iffy)
All-Seeing Arbiter (iffy)
Inspiring Overseer (iffy)
D&D:
Minsc & Boo
Delayed-Blast Fireball
DOM:
Sheoldred
Ertai (iffy)
Cult Conscript
Evolved Sleeper (iffy)
Serra Paragon
Squee (iffy)
Aether Channeler
I'm fine with most of these in my 540 cube. The only ones I'd still be iffy on if I were to expand my cube would be Inspiring Overseer / Serra Paragon.
My High Octane Unpowered Cube on CubeCobra
Reveillark
Sun Titan
Emeria's Call?
Thanks!
Cheers,
rant
My Cube
CubeCobra: https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/5f5d0310ed602310515d4c32
Cube Tutor: http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1963
On spoiled card wishlisting and 'should-have-had'-isms:
My thought process:
Decent effect on a land maindecked ~100% of the time > creature with amazing value if it dies; no need for mana payment > creature with amazing value if it doesn't die; often requires mana payment > great value even if it dies but costs 6 mana up front.
This is still the best place for high-power-level cube chat & debate.
Here's to many more years at MTGS *clink*
- Reveillark is a monster in the Pod/ Rec/ Flicker archetype. It doesn't hold enough teeth on its own.
- Sun Titan isn't as good as it once was ...
- Ob, Nixilis can be incredible in the black-red aristocrats archetype, but at its core its more or less another rabblemaster variants. Its def a good card, but its also very replacable.
- Delayed Fireblast is a less flexible variant of the Earthquake X variants.
- Aether Channeler has been underwhelming, I would only play it if your cube has some form of Aluren loop
- Sheoldred is good .. I drafted her twice during Domanria and its been an absolute bomb. In many ways its a mono color Siege Rhino with wheel combo potential. She's even stronger in 2022 as heavier fair beats aren't too common in cube.
Vintage Cube Cards Explained
Here are some other articles I've written about fine tuning your cube:
1. Minimum Archetype Support
2. Improving Green Archetypes
3. Improving White Archetypes
4. Matchup Analysis
5. Cube Combos (Work in Progress)
Draft my Cube - https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/d8i
Opt
Gitaxian Probe
Sleight of Hand
Chart a Course
Consider
I'm already running Brainstorm, Preordain, Ponder, and Consider. Looking to add at least one more. This is for a 465 card Powered cube.
Thanks!
Cheers,
rant
My Cube
CubeCobra: https://cubecobra.com/cube/overview/5f5d0310ed602310515d4c32
Cube Tutor: http://cubetutor.com/viewcube/1963
Rankings can differ depending on context: they're all good on their own, it's just a matter of what you want to support more:
- Chart a Course if you need more discard outlets. This is probably a top 3 blue discard outlet in my book alongside Occult Epiphany / Jace, Vryn's Prodigy.
- Gitaxian Probe if you need more graveyard critical mass (Delve / Uro / etc) / spells matters / storm support.
- Consider > Opt, a card is generally more useful in your graveyard than the bottom of your library. That being said you can't go wrong with either of them. These would be my choice to support draw / go.
- Sleight of Hand digs the deepest at 1 mana, probably the best choice if you need to bolster combo in general.
My High Octane Unpowered Cube on CubeCobra
Cryptic Command vs Shark Typhoon
Typhoon ≥ Command
My 630 Card Powered Cube
My Article - "Cube Design Philosophy"
My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!
My cube
My cube on Cube tutor
I'm OP_Forever. I'll be putting this in my signature for a while so everyone know I change my nickname.
My High Octane Unpowered Cube on CubeCobra
My 630 Card Powered Cube
My Article - "Cube Design Philosophy"
My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!
Interested in Custom Card Creation.
My Cube:Cardinal Custom Cube
A custom version of a third modern masters: MM2019
(filter->rarity to see in set rarity).
As I was updating my Cube over the weekend I found a way to not include either.
W has a lot of really gas removal now so this is pretty doable unless the cube is huge.
Interested in Custom Card Creation.
My Cube:Cardinal Custom Cube
A custom version of a third modern masters: MM2019
(filter->rarity to see in set rarity).
My cube
My cube on Cube tutor
I'm OP_Forever. I'll be putting this in my signature for a while so everyone know I change my nickname.
-Thalia
-Stoneforge
-Charming Prince
-Wall of Omens
would you cut some of them for some of the missing ones?
Selfless Spirit / Luminarch Aspirant / Lion Sash / Adanto Vanguard / Seasoned Hallowblade are all very solid. Could make an argument for them over Charming Prince / Wall of Omens if you want more aggro options.
My High Octane Unpowered Cube on CubeCobra
(Please assume "normal" cube; no draw-7 theme)
1) I only have space for five green fatties, so which of these should I cut?
Old One Eye
Primeval Titan
Hornet Queen
Titan of Industry
Craterhoof Behemoth
Woodfall Primus
2) I only have space for six black 4- and 5-drops, so which two of these should I cut?
Braids, Cabal Minion
Ravenous Chupacabra
Rankle, Master of Pranks
Grief
Sheoldred, the Apocalypse
Shriekmaw
Custodi Lich
Necron Deathmark
Thank you!
- Cube Cobra (up-to-date)
- MTG Salvation (outdated; my posts seem to have been deleted at some point, unfortunately)
My cube
My cube on Cube tutor
I'm OP_Forever. I'll be putting this in my signature for a while so everyone know I change my nickname.
My 630 Card Powered Cube
My Article - "Cube Design Philosophy"
My Article - "Mana Short: A study in limited resource management."
My 50th Set (P)review - Discusses my top 20 Cube cards from OTJ!