If you're trying to limit incidental fixing for 4-5c control decks, Idol can be a safer inclusion. It also plays better in dedicated control decks as a manland of sorts that can animate and attack post-wrath. And it's also a free source of C into the cube, if that matters for you. I think Stone is probably a better face-value card (fixing mana, entering untapped, etc) but Idol can serve more specific roles.
Imprisoned in the Moon > Wharf Infiltrator > Psionic Blast
Blast is not a good card against aggro so it is only great in tempo decks. Imprisoned is always played. Infiltrator is among the best looters but can be skipped if you like other card selection and/or discard outlets more. I think it is a less important card for the color as it is much more replaceable.
Kargan Dragonlord: At a quick glance your Cube (like mine) does not play fast mana, and I really like it in this context.
Of the three cards you suggest, I'd probably add Lightning Mauler and Hellspark Elemental. I am not a fan of "player burn creatures" in general, but Hellspark does have good synergies (not only with sacrifice outlets but also with looters).
Black has a hole at the 5cc slot and a ton of great 3cc spells, so it wouldn't be a bad change for curve purposes. I could see it. Lich is really good.
Having a hard time cutting 1.
Kalonian Hydra is just such a boss,
but Thragtusk and Hermit have more interactions,
Slime is so good at removing pesky artifacts / lands / enchantments.
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I'd cut either Hydra or Slime, depending on the rest of green's creature composition. But even then, the cut would be hard. You could cut Primal Command and keep all 4, which is probably what I'd do.
I also agree with cutting Primal Command over those four creatures. If that isn't an option, I would cut Kalonian Hydra, because it is the least interesting and least needed card. It is a super efficient beater, but the other three 5-drops fill important roles or just have more interesting interactions.
Wharf Infiltrator has been steaming hot garbage in every cube I've played it in. In turns out you almost never want to pay the 2 for a 3/2, and skulk on a 1/1 is still *****ty.
Hero, as heroic is barely triggered meaning the X/1 body is the major liability when comparing the three.
I'm not a fan of any of those cuts. Maybe Ruinous Path? That could still be better, but it's definitely more redundant whereas Void is super unique. Tombstalker? Perhaps I underrate the stalker but I've never been a huge fan. If I had to cut one it would be Command, as it's a slight bit slow for a powered cube, but I like the versatility it provides and would prob cut Ruinous Path before.
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Imprisoned in the Moon > Wharf Infiltrator > Psionic Blast
Blast is not a good card against aggro so it is only great in tempo decks. Imprisoned is always played. Infiltrator is among the best looters but can be skipped if you like other card selection and/or discard outlets more. I think it is a less important card for the color as it is much more replaceable.
Arc Lightning > Collective Defiance
Stone comes into play untapped and sometimes even produces colored mana, it is much better.
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Choose 2, likely replacing Altac Bloodseeker and Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh:
Keldon Marauders
Lightning Mauler
Hellspark Elemental
I'm leaning toward Hellspark Elemental as one of the two, because of it's synergy with the sacrifice theme in black, and (on color) Purphoros, God of the Forge/Outpost Siege.
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Mogg War Marshal is a good token card.
Kargan Dragonlord: At a quick glance your Cube (like mine) does not play fast mana, and I really like it in this context.
Of the three cards you suggest, I'd probably add Lightning Mauler and Hellspark Elemental. I am not a fan of "player burn creatures" in general, but Hellspark does have good synergies (not only with sacrifice outlets but also with looters).
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I'm interested in adding Sin Prodder so which card would you guys cut of the following:
Sin Prodder vs Arc Lightning vs Purphoros, god of the forge vs fireblast
I'm so indecisive...maybe sin prodder isn't even worth the slot...
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I like all those cards more than Sin Prodder.
Going by your cubetutor list, I just can't find a good cut. Fire Imp, perhaps?
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Having a hard time cutting 1.
Kalonian Hydra is just such a boss,
but Thragtusk and Hermit have more interactions,
Slime is so good at removing pesky artifacts / lands / enchantments.
It's cut's like this that make me want to have a bigger cube
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This is a much better idea than cutting any of those creatures.
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Please rank these from best to worst:
Shardless Agent vs Kiora, Master of the Depths vs Sagu Mauler vs Trygon Predator
Managorger Hydra vs Boon Satyr vs Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
Uril, the Miststalker RGW -- Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre C -- Vhati il-Dal BG -- Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer RW -- Animar, Soul of Elements URG
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker R -- Maga, Traitor to Mortals B -- Ghave, Guru of Spores BGW -- Sliver Hivelord WUBRG
Swap Kiora and Mauler if you have more of a morph package
Selvala > Boon Satyr > Hyrda
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Trygon Predator (needed), Shardless Agent (fun factor), Kiora, Sagu Mauler (boring card for multicolor)
Selvala, Hydra, Boon
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I guess Sin Prodder isn’t going in afterall.
Last few for me:
I want to add in Arcane Savant (this card is ridiculous), which card should I cut for it:
Jace Beleran, Wharf Infiltrator, Waterfront Bouncer, Imprisoned in the Moon, Trinket Mage
Cut one card in the 1 black drop section:
Vampire Lacerator, Sarcomancy, Tormented Hero
Cut one card so I can slot in a Nether Void:
Profane Command, Exhume, Living Death, or Chainer’s Edict (I’m thinking chainer’s edict since I already run diabolic edict) or anything else you can think of
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Hero, as heroic is barely triggered meaning the X/1 body is the major liability when comparing the three.
I'm not a fan of any of those cuts. Maybe Ruinous Path? That could still be better, but it's definitely more redundant whereas Void is super unique. Tombstalker? Perhaps I underrate the stalker but I've never been a huge fan. If I had to cut one it would be Command, as it's a slight bit slow for a powered cube, but I like the versatility it provides and would prob cut Ruinous Path before.
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I was leaning on tormented hero as well.
Yeah, the nethervoid cut is a hard one. Maybe I can cut exhume instead since there's quite a bit of redundancy in recursion spells.
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Selvala > Hydra > Satyr
Cut Imprisoned
Cut Lacerator
I don't like any of those black cuts. Perhaps Ruinous Path instead?
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