Yeah, I smell what you're steppin' in, but there's not much else comparable in my colorless list (which I just posted in my previous comment). Any ideas?
Black Vise is expendable but we found five Swords too much at 400 let alone 360, and cut W+P a year back. It's powerful but by far the least interesting Sword. I would cut Vise first though.
I'm not sure if I should replace Grenzo with Daretti Ingenious which seems like the better card. What is needed to make Daretti really good? I do have cards like Goblin Welder, Kia and Pia Nalaar, Wurcoil Engine, Myr Battelsphere, Sundering Titan and Batterskull.
While it is a good card, I don't think Hangarback Walker is necessary for 360 cubes either.
Agreed. Walker is fine, but it's too awkward/underwhelming for too many decks to be in a cube that small. It's too slow for aggressive decks, clearly doesn't belong in control really (although it can definitely be a nice roadblock & good vs non-white control decks), and while fine in midrange it can be a bit slow in some match ups. If you could actually abuse hangar back with ETB it would be so much better, but only getting one realistic death trigger off of walker is a big ol' bummer.
I am very happy with Hangerback at 400. Not sure if it would survive the cut of 5-8 artifact cards to get down to 360, but quite probably not. It has many points in its favour though, as a good sac well, blocker and value piece, even if it's hardly the centrepiece for a given archetype.
This is interesting. I wouldn't think twice about cutting Sword of Light and Shadow and honestly, I don't think that card is actually very good. I guess just difference in opinion and playgroup preference.
Whereas I think L&S is tied for the 2nd best Sword. Fantastic protections, and the recursion ability keeps it in bodies to carry it, and can be used as an engine card for creature recursion & ETB trigger decks.
Whereas I think L&S is tied for the 2nd best Sword. Fantastic protections, and the recursion ability keeps it in bodies to carry it, and can be used as an engine card for creature recursion & ETB trigger decks.
I understand the reasoning behind it. It is strong against black, the color has no real way to deal with artifacts. Although, black often being paired with red or green. I think Light and Shadow fails to ever connect and even against the black decks, there are more than enough sacrifice effects and wraths to not worry about it.
This reminds me of the discussion around Ajani Goldmane. I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole, but others would consider him the pinnacle of white deck top ends.
Its a matter of perspective. The biggest factor in these discussions is playgroups, which is impossible to convey. Additionally, what each of us define as fun. I play power and think Necropotence is sooooo bad. But then again I play Regicide
While I don't have all the powered artifacts including Sol Ring in my 400 card cube I do have all 10 signets though which you can so easily pitch so easy to Daretti.
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Agreed. Walker is fine, but it's too awkward/underwhelming for too many decks to be in a cube that small. It's too slow for aggressive decks, clearly doesn't belong in control really (although it can definitely be a nice roadblock & good vs non-white control decks), and while fine in midrange it can be a bit slow in some match ups. If you could actually abuse hangar back with ETB it would be so much better, but only getting one realistic death trigger off of walker is a big ol' bummer.
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This is interesting. I wouldn't think twice about cutting Sword of Light and Shadow and honestly, I don't think that card is actually very good. I guess just difference in opinion and playgroup preference.
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I understand the reasoning behind it. It is strong against black, the color has no real way to deal with artifacts. Although, black often being paired with red or green. I think Light and Shadow fails to ever connect and even against the black decks, there are more than enough sacrifice effects and wraths to not worry about it.
This reminds me of the discussion around Ajani Goldmane. I wouldn't touch him with a 10ft pole, but others would consider him the pinnacle of white deck top ends.
Its a matter of perspective. The biggest factor in these discussions is playgroups, which is impossible to convey. Additionally, what each of us define as fun. I play power and think Necropotence is sooooo bad. But then again I play Regicide
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