Plus, it's easier to get relevant bodies out of CGR. You can attack with a 3/3 and leave three 1/1s back. Or attack with three 1/1s and leave a 3/3 back.
Cloudgoat is white's siege-gang. I don't think I could ever dream of cutting this army in a can. Especially now that cards like curse of predation and spear are in the cube, he is one deadly 5 drop. Not to mention the lovely bounce interactions.
Based on the high-powered cubes I've experienced, I think cloudgoat's days are either done or very close to done.
Most P1P1 pickable cube cards incentivize the majority of the field to go over the top (either via control, combo or ramp). Therefore, midrange threats requiring synergy to be playable like cloudgoat ranger become poorly positioned.
Synergy heavy token or blink synergy decks get trumped by bigger decks. Leaving them an underdog to the majority of the format.
As a "good stuff" card, he's not strong enough.
He still finds a good home every now and then (opposition decks mostly), but it's become a narrow 5 drop, competing against 3 other strong 5 drops, in a format that is hostile to 5 drops.
I cut it and don't think I'm looking back.
Note: He's a LOT better in unpowered cubes with deep anthem support or if your cube/playgroup has a heavy agro meta (35-50% agro decks most drafts).
I play a semi powered cube 450, and it's still a solid performer. Not the best creature in the cube, but if I'm playing white, I'm always happy to see him.
As said in the Random Card thread, Cloudgoat is a better cube card than Baneslayer Angel. I'll be cutting that 5-drop way before I cut Cloudgoat and I'm no where near cutting Baneslayer, so I think the big Kithkin is safe for a while.
White 5-drops received some interesting new cards this set. This is causing me to examine the current ones I'm running. I'm running Angel of Invention, Cloudgoat, Solitude & Timeless Dragon.
Where would you rank Cloudgoat among all white 5-drops? 4 bodies for 5 mana is a good deal but wondering how people feel this card is aging in a modern Cube environment?
White 5-drops received some interesting new cards this set. This is causing me to examine the current ones I'm running. I'm running Angel of Invention, Cloudgoat, Solitude & Timeless Dragon.
Where would you rank Cloudgoat among all white 5-drops? 4 bodies for 5 mana is a good deal but wondering how people feel this card is aging in a modern Cube environment?
Cloudgoat Ranger is my least favorite of the bunch since it's the most redundant. Still a serviceable card, but there's so many good options these days that you can diversify while still maintaining the same level of power / consistency.
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Most P1P1 pickable cube cards incentivize the majority of the field to go over the top (either via control, combo or ramp). Therefore, midrange threats requiring synergy to be playable like cloudgoat ranger become poorly positioned.
Synergy heavy token or blink synergy decks get trumped by bigger decks. Leaving them an underdog to the majority of the format.
As a "good stuff" card, he's not strong enough.
He still finds a good home every now and then (opposition decks mostly), but it's become a narrow 5 drop, competing against 3 other strong 5 drops, in a format that is hostile to 5 drops.
I cut it and don't think I'm looking back.
Note: He's a LOT better in unpowered cubes with deep anthem support or if your cube/playgroup has a heavy agro meta (35-50% agro decks most drafts).
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Where would you rank Cloudgoat among all white 5-drops? 4 bodies for 5 mana is a good deal but wondering how people feel this card is aging in a modern Cube environment?
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Cloudgoat Ranger is my least favorite of the bunch since it's the most redundant. Still a serviceable card, but there's so many good options these days that you can diversify while still maintaining the same level of power / consistency.
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It's definitely starting to show its age but not to the point where I would be surprised to see it in a list (90% sure its still in mine).
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