MTG Salvation

Quote from wtwlf123

P hyrexian Reclamation is card disadvantage.

What? No it isn't. It returns things to your hand. If you get two cards back with it, then you're effectively up a card (albeit, down 4 life).

Quote from MrDumpkins

I honestly cannot fathom why they cut volrath's stronghold from the MODO cube, it just plain baffles me. Was it too good or something?

Don't think about the changes to the modo cube...it will just make your head hurt.

I think you meant haunted crossroads. Yes, haunted crossroads is card disadvantage. Phyrexian reclamation is card advantage if you use it twice.

Gravedigger is also card advantage, although clunky when costed at 4 and the advantage is quite minimal in the form of a bear.

Volrath's stronghold has singlehandedly won games around here where a player cannot answer the stronghold recursion of a bomb multiple times. The card is easily one of the best black cards in the cube for me.

The way CFB drafts cube makes me cringe...whenever they passed recurring nightmare I died a little inside. Or anything along those lines of passing recurring nightmare, as nightmare is an excellent card in nearly every deck. Quite splashable too.

Quote from Juju

What? No it isn't. It returns things to your hand. If you get two cards back with it, then you're effectively up a card (albeit, down 4 life).

Oh man, I confused it with Tortured Existence. Sorry.

Quote from eidolon232

I am happy to first pick this card and even consider splashing for it if it fits into my deck / mana base.

Word. I consider this one of the top 10 cards in black.

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definitely one of the best black land cards of all time. I love this with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth (or however you spell him)

Stronghold is just absurd. Not even that broken of a combo compared to what you can pull but I just absolutely love evoking Shriekmaw every turn with it.

Just got a copy of this. Very little discussion of this card lately. Five years later, what's the consensus?

I can't wait to play this in Loam / Eternal Witness shells.

An insane engine card. Guaranteeing threats and being able to use your graveyard as a toolbox as the gamestate evolves is just so good. I would cube this even in the very smallest of cube lists.

What wtwlf said. Stronghold is excellent.

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Yeah, Stronghold is just pretty superb. A spell that can turn-by-turn fish out dead answers from your GY or even just replay a huge threat that got doom bladed without even taking up a slot in your deck is pretty good. It's obviously not fast but it dominates when you're trying to grind out value.

It's a particularly important card for black midrange decks to have access to in their control matchups. And it allows threat-light decks to keep their threat density up without having to dedicate a non-land card to push the issue. The opportunity cost is just so low for the ceiling that it provides. If the mana base can even remotely justify it, it's a snap-include into my final 40.

As we keep getting more creatures with great ETB effects, having a way to keep reusing them only gets better. It's slow and grindy, but the opportunity cost of having this in your deck is minimal. I can't see this ever leaving my cube.

Same. When I first assembled my cube some nine years ago (!!!), this was the kind of card I wanted to play. I've never considered cutting Stronghold and I don't think I ever will.

Volrath's Stronghold was discussed here in the Random Cube Card of the Day Thread. I've all wrath for anyone who doesn't have a strong hold on the thread.

(Spoiler: An oldie but a goodie. A great source of card advantage to grind out a game, especially if you have a lot of ETB triggers.