MTG Salvation

Didn't see this in here yet. Not too bad a card... it's certainly going to be relevant for uncommon cubes.

Interesting. I like modal cards where both options are solid. My white 2cc spells are mostly enchantment/artifact/creature removal. Unfortunately, this card's modes both seem better against control or midrange. I don't think Stance does enough against aggro to warrant inclusion. Using it on the block feels bad when they bolt in response, and keeping mana up for it after playing a guy seems tough.

It's a good card for Standard, but I don't think I like it for the cube.

Modal cards are my friend, I'm praying for a cycle.

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It's a good card for Standard, but I don't think I like it for the cube.

Maybe not for smaller cubes, but I think this thing looks sweet. It's conditional removal attached to a relevant combat trick / counterspell.

I think the cost is pretty great too. It'd obviously be much better as a single white spell, but I don't think the extra colorless hurts it that much.

On the fence at 540, leaning towards including. Most of white's removal spells are better in control decks, but this one seems like a great option for supporting white-based aggro. More combat tricks are always a welcome sight as well. The competition is pretty tight though, especially with Unexpectedly Absent, Council's Judgement, and Banishing Light all being added lately.

I prefer to run as little noncreature spells as possible for white unless they are really good. Not sure whether this is good enough.

Definitely a must have for me. Modal/flexi spells are hard to come by, especially those at monocolored. They either are too expensive or too lousy. I think this card makes the mark.

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Charming

I see what you did there.

Give me a red one that destroys an artifact or deals 4 damage to target creature please.

Oh I see, ya. Don't know. A Shatter and an instant Trash for Treasure would be cool at 2R.

What about Nature's Claim and Nature's Spiral for 2G?

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What about Nature's Claim and Nature's Spiral for 2G?

It would need to be a Naturalize instead of a Nature's Claim, because that would be an unacceptably bad disenchant effect at 3 mana.

Having a choice is good, not being able to kill so many relevant cube creatures is not. Adding the ability to occasionally be a trick/removal counterspell is nice, but it's not worth losing the ability to kill what I would guess is more than half the creatures in an average cube. White just has too much other, better removal.

I don't have much experience with C/Ubes, but I wouldn't doubt it could find a home there though.

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It's a good card for Standard, but I don't think I like it for the cube.

This card does not seem fit for Standard. It's too conditional and a 2cc give my thing indestructible is almost useless.

It kills Rhinos, Coursers and Rocs, and prevents your Rhinos from being swept away by End Hostilities. I think it will have at least a splash impact. It also kills the W/U heroic threats and Butchers, while simultaneously having defensive value in the decks that run those cards.

It's pretty awesome IN WU Heroic, for sure, at least in the sideboard when you have to play 'Protect the Queen' since it doesn't provide protection (and therefore won't make enchantments fall off).

-AA

I only see 64 cards in my 500 that have >=4 toughness, and some of those aren't technically valid targets for destroying. So I'd guess ~10% targets.

Seems way too niche and the indestructible also seems situational. Too narrow for me.

Would have been interested at W, no way at 1W. There aren't enough 4 toughness creatures that you're excited about killing.

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What about Nature's Claim and Nature's Spiral for 2G?

Make it cost GG and it'd be a natural fit for cube. B)

I think there are too many sacrifice and RFG effects in cube, which push the effects of this card down. If you ran a lower power-level cube, this starts gaining steam IMHO. Had this come out a few years ago, we may have had a different argument. I really like the flexibility of [removal] or [protection]...but cubes pack cards "just better" than this.