Seriously guys though, I have to disagree with all of you putting Capsize first. I'm assuming this is P1P1; in which case, would you slam the Capsize the moment you saw it? I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't mind taking it, but I would look for other blue cards first (obviously, blue is where it's at in my cube). I would definitely take Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War, a Looter or a decent counter over it (as you can see), because while it's certainly powerful and can lock your opponent out of the game, it's too narrow; taking it P1P1 forces you to be U/x control; while that is a fine* archetype, sometimes it's not always possible; where as a Looter, a decent counter or Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War can go in any U/x or X/u deck.
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But, maybe it's just me. After all, three of you did put it first.
Seriously guys though, I have to disagree with all of you putting Capsize first. I'm assuming this is P1P1; in which case, would you slam the Capsize the moment you saw it? I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't mind taking it, but I would look for other blue cards first (obviously, blue is where it's at in my cube). I would definitely take Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War, a Looter or a decent counter over it (as you can see), because while it's certainly powerful and can lock your opponent out of the game, it's too narrow; taking it P1P1 forces you to be U/x control; while that is a fine* archetype, sometimes it's not always possible; where as a Looter, a decent counter or Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War can go in any U/x or X/u deck.
*Best
But, maybe it's just me. After all, three of you did put it first.
This makes me think that you've never had it beat you over the face, or you've never beat someone over the face with it. I was in the anti-capsize party for a while, then I actually saw how it worked.
I don't think it forces you into control... really, as long as your deck runs islands and can get up to 6 mana, it goes in.
Of course I've Capsize-locked and been Capsize-locked many a time, but I've wrecked somebody with Man-'O-War many more times, and half the time I wasn't even playing control. Although Mulldrifter/counters/Looters will not singlehandedly win you the game like Capsize can, their versatility is what makes them better for me.
Yeah, I'd take it well above Counterspell and the like and probably over Mulldrifter, though I'm not entirely sure about that. My cube runs both Flood and Rhystic Deluge too, so you can see how sick 20 islands.deck or GU ramp can be. And both need Capsize to work at all.
Capsize is probably the only card that is borderline broken in my cube, even though it's only so in a dedicated deck.
I don't play Pauper, but Pestilence has been such a house in my Peasant cube. All of my crew rave about it every time it hits the table. It's damn near broken in this format. I fully expect it to be the number one black card for Pauper.
And sweepers are even more important than normal in Pauper. I'll one up you, calibretto, and expect the two best ones (Pestilence and Crypt Rats) to take the top two.
02 Man-'O-War
03 Counterspell
04 Looter il-Kor
05 Merfolk Looter
06 Exclude
07 Remove Soul
08 Mana Leak
09 Impulse
10 Deep Analysis
11 Capsize
12 Repulse
13 Condescend
14 Infiltrator il-Kor
15 Mysteries of the Deep
16 Into the Roil
17 Foresee
18 Ninja of the Deep Hours
19 Shimmering Glasskite
20 Shaper Parasite
Wow. Still didn't get to Errant Ephemeron, Zuran Spellcaster, Power Sink, Rushing River, Repeal, Pestermite, Calcite Snapper, Echo Tracer... just goes to show how sick blue is in Pauper.
Seriously guys though, I have to disagree with all of you putting Capsize first. I'm assuming this is P1P1; in which case, would you slam the Capsize the moment you saw it? I probably wouldn't. I wouldn't mind taking it, but I would look for other blue cards first (obviously, blue is where it's at in my cube). I would definitely take Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War, a Looter or a decent counter over it (as you can see), because while it's certainly powerful and can lock your opponent out of the game, it's too narrow; taking it P1P1 forces you to be U/x control; while that is a fine* archetype, sometimes it's not always possible; where as a Looter, a decent counter or Mulldrifter/Man-'O-War can go in any U/x or X/u deck.
*Best
But, maybe it's just me. After all, three of you did put it first.
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This makes me think that you've never had it beat you over the face, or you've never beat someone over the face with it. I was in the anti-capsize party for a while, then I actually saw how it worked.
I don't think it forces you into control... really, as long as your deck runs islands and can get up to 6 mana, it goes in.
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12 Disturbed Burial
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14 Liliana's Specter
15 Tendrils of Corruption
16 Vendetta
17 Mindstab
18 Warren Pilferers
19 Duress
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A lot harder than blue...
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7 Disintegrate
8 Kaervek's Torch
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11 Staggershock
12 Incinerate
13 Vulshok Sorcerer
14 Ghitu Slinger
15 Flowstone Crusher
16 Viashino Fangtail
17 Aftershock
18 Burst Lightning
19 Firebolt
20 Gathan Raiders (not really red?)
2 Lightning Bolt
3 Rolling Thunder
4 Incinerate
5 Chain Lightning
6 Burst Lightning
7 Arc Lightning
8 Flame Slash
9 Ghitu Slinger
10 Barbed Lightning
11 Skirk Marauder
12 Aftershock
13 Viashino Fangtail
14 Lash Out
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16 Firebolt
17 Fireblast
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4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
5 Yavimaya Elder
6 River Boa
7 Mire Boa
8 Kodama's Reach
9 Cultivate
10 Llanowar Elves
11 Fyndhorn Elves
12 Vines of Vastwood
13 Wild Mongrel
14 Werebear
15 Presence of Gond
16 Gorilla Chieftain
17 Krosan Tusker
19 Simian Grunts
19 Harrow
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8 Harrow
9 Krosan Tusker
10 Cultivate
11 Kodama's Reach
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14 River Boa
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16 Wild Mongrel
17 Wild Dogs
18 Civic Wayfinder
19 Borderland Ranger
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04 Sakura-Tribe Elder
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06 Fyndhorn Elves
07 Yavimaya Elder
08 River Boa
09 Wickerbough Elder
10 Basking Rootwalla
11 Elephant Ambush
12 Borderland Ranger
13 Thornweald Archer
14 Krosan Tusker
15 Mire Boa
16 Vines of Vastwood
17 Simian Grunts
18 Centaur Courser
19 Wild Mongrel
20 Harrow
Wow, green is so underpowered.
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7 Mind Stone
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11 Whispersilk Cloak
12 Pyrite Spellbomb
13 Armillary Sphere
14 Serrated Arrows
15 Scuttlemutt
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17 Razor Golem
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20 Moonglove Extract
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