Can you guys think of any other piles that might make adding Doomsday worthwhile? They don't have to already be in the cube list. List here: http://www.cubetutor.com/visualspoiler/22136
I don't think any pile could possibly make Doomsday worth running in a limited deck. It makes sense in a constructed combo deck, but not in cube. It's one of those cards that, while good in constructed, is a "move along, nothing to see here" in a cube. Other examples would be stuff like Arcbound Ravager (in a non artifact heavy cube), Glimpse of Nature etc.
Edit: I've thought about it quite a bit, and despite the example you gave being a cute, and not bad soft lock, that makes it hard for an opponent to win, it's still outrageous. It's a combo that requires huge amounts of time, and a fair bit of different coloured mana to pull off. I mean, it's not like you're casting Doomsday turn three here. You ideally want 7 mana, in case you get Platinum angel in your hand. I just can't see it working in limited, and I wouldn't try, personally.
If you want to do broken things that only work some times, try supporting Storm Combo. Doomsday is most likely a fruitless endeavor.
In actual fact, Doomsday is a good card in storm combo.
Too bad there are zero storm cards in Core Sets.
That does make it harder to support storm, yes.
In fact, are there any good combo style decks you can make using just core sets from 6th onward? I'm going to hesitantly say that it's probably impossible to make a good one in 60 card constructed, let alone cube. Early Harvest and Vernal Bloom are nice combo cards in core sets, but I don't think they have any kind of support.
One of the combos that this cube can actually support is Intruder Alarm / Mana Elves / Ant Queen or other token producers. Granted, it's not a *great* combo, but it is fun when you can pull it off.
I am also playing around with the idea of adding 4 of each UrzaTron land to the cube, and try to make artifacts go big. If it is worth it, it may make Planar Portal or Ring of Three Wishes worth including also.
Regarding mana dudes + Intruder Alarm, you've got Mobilization, Dragon Roost, and Jade Mage. Maybe a few more. Jade Mage is definitely a solid card for a lower-power cube and Mobilization can be too.
Because it's slow at work, here are all the "core set" creatures that can produce mana for this combo:
I have a Core Set Cube (6th Edition and up), and am considering adding Doomsday. So far, the one pile I might consider "decent" would be:
Can you guys think of any other piles that might make adding Doomsday worthwhile? They don't have to already be in the cube list. List here: http://www.cubetutor.com/visualspoiler/22136
Thanks!
450 Invasion Cube
540 All Ravnica Cube
450 Odyssey Cube
450 Kamigawa Cube
360 Mercadian Masques Cube
540 6ED+ Core Set Cube new!
Would love to see your decks/feedback!
Edit: I've thought about it quite a bit, and despite the example you gave being a cute, and not bad soft lock, that makes it hard for an opponent to win, it's still outrageous. It's a combo that requires huge amounts of time, and a fair bit of different coloured mana to pull off. I mean, it's not like you're casting Doomsday turn three here. You ideally want 7 mana, in case you get Platinum angel in your hand. I just can't see it working in limited, and I wouldn't try, personally.
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Add Shelldock Isle so someone can draft that with Emrakul. Cloud of Faeries is optional to go along with that and possibly support other archetypesedit: nevermind, just realized you said core set cube and none of those cards are core set
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450 Odyssey Cube
450 Kamigawa Cube
360 Mercadian Masques Cube
540 6ED+ Core Set Cube new!
Would love to see your decks/feedback!
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In actual fact, Doomsday is a good card in storm combo.
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Former DCI L2 Judge
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That does make it harder to support storm, yes.
In fact, are there any good combo style decks you can make using just core sets from 6th onward? I'm going to hesitantly say that it's probably impossible to make a good one in 60 card constructed, let alone cube. Early Harvest and Vernal Bloom are nice combo cards in core sets, but I don't think they have any kind of support.
Juju Alters - Altered MTG Cards
Former DCI L2 Judge
My old Cube podcast on ManaDeprived, with Goodking and artbcnco: http://manadeprived.com/podcasts/mtgin3d/
You can find me on Twitter as well.
I am also playing around with the idea of adding 4 of each UrzaTron land to the cube, and try to make artifacts go big. If it is worth it, it may make Planar Portal or Ring of Three Wishes worth including also.
450 Invasion Cube
540 All Ravnica Cube
450 Odyssey Cube
450 Kamigawa Cube
360 Mercadian Masques Cube
540 6ED+ Core Set Cube new!
Would love to see your decks/feedback!
Because it's slow at work, here are all the "core set" creatures that can produce mana for this combo:
And token producers:
Some of those are kind of janky or not infinite.