I like that version of the cryptologist a lot more.
I dunno how I feel about the Raiders. That's pretty darn close to just "Draw a card", which is fine except it probably shouldn't come on a body that's already slightly pushed, especially when you look at Elvish Visionary
I agree that Red should get the ability to interact with exile, as its biggest enemies are the ones most likely to do it (Swords to Plowshares, Dissipate), but the head designer of Magic has some issues with that (namely, let's not turn Exile into just a second graveyard), so we'll likely never see it.
Ok how about protecting against exile?
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Spells or abilities your opponent controls cannot exile permanents or spells you control.
4/1
Or punishment for exile?
Wreath of fire1R
Enchantment
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 3 damage to target opponent
I have no idea how to cost it, or the damage size. It would have to allow you to exile your own stuff to do the effect otherwise it would be too narrow. Maybe include a sac outlet on it but lower the damage.
Wreath of fire1R
Enchantment
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 1 damage to target opponent 0 Exile target permanent you control
OR does it need to get strapped to a body
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Creature Goblin
Protection from Blue and White
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 3 damage to target opponent
2/2
The best way is probably taking a card that's already fine without the hosing and throw a little hosing on top of it.
Ragar the Unbound 1R
Legendary Creature - Human Barbarian
Haste, Protection from white
Whenever a spell or ability an opponent controls exiles a spell or permanent you control, Ragar deals 3 damage to that opponent
2/1
Also:
Aven Squadron 2WW
Creature - Bird Soldier
Flying
When Aven Squadron enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 white bird tokens with flying onto the battlefield
Whenever Aven Squadron deals combat damage to a player, you may return it to your hand
2/1
I really like the Aven Squadron but the greedy part of me would want to give it flash.
Some other ideas
Mundungus, Slime Lord3GGG
Legendary Creature Slime
Hexproof, Trample
When Mundungus, Slime Lord dies, put a 3/3 green Slime creature token with hexproof and a 3/3 green Slime creature token with Trample onto the battlefield. Each of those tokens have "When this creature dies put three 1/1 green Slime tokens onto the battlefield.
6/6
And I am not sure how to costs this fairly enough and make it playable I have a few options.
Molitov Goblin1R
Sorcery
Do one damage to target creature or player. Put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Flashback R Pay 2 life
Or
Molitov Goblin2R
Sorcery
Do two damage to up to two target creatures or players or Put two 1/1 red Goblin goblins token with haste onto the battlefield.
Entwine: Pay 2 life
Maybe
Molitov Goblin1R
Sorcery
Do one damage to target creature or player. Put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Rebound
Or for the wacky
GoblinBall
Enchantment
Suspend X - Rx, X can't be 0
When you remove a Suspend counter, do one damage to target creature or player and put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Creatures you control get +1/+0
Maybe it would make more sense as a creature
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Creature Goblin
Suspend X - RRx, X can't be 0
When you remove a Suspend counter, do one damage to target creature or player and put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Other Goblins you control get +1/+0
Goblin Baller's power and toughness are equal to the number of goblins you control.
*/*
I was just about to post my green 6-drop idea, and it's really similar to yours, lol.
Enginecoil Wurm4GG
Artifact Creature - Wurm [M]
Trample G: Regenerate Enginecoil Wurm. (The next time this creature would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat.)
When Enginecoil Wurm dies, put a 3/3 green Wurm artifact creature token with trample and a 3/3 green Wurm artifact creature token with "G: Regenerate this creature." onto the battlefield.
6/6
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I'm not sure Enginecoil Wurm is terribly much stronger than Silvos, Rogue Elemental.
I mean, obviously getting the tokens is a plus. And being an artifact means you can Tinker into it. But Silvos has a lot more Power.
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I would gladly give up the 2 power for a better casting cost and the death trigger against edicts and wraths. Any day of the week. I don't think it's even close.
Maybe I'm just underestimating it, especially the token generation part.
And the fact that it's Tinkerable really makes it, I suppose, but I'm not seeing a strong justification as to *why* it's an artifact, so if we were to see this card, it would likely be without that line.
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Acidic Ancestor4GGG
Creature - Ooze {M}
Deathtouch
When Acidic Ancestor enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.
When Acidic Ancestor dies, if it wasn't a token, put two tokens onto the battlefield that are copies of it.
2/2
I think it's too small of an initial impact for 7 mana. A 2/2 and a Bramblecrush is too little for 4GGG. And it would need to be a LTB trigger rather than a death one; it's too low-impact to run the risk of being exiled.
At six mana, that was probably fine.
At seven, I feel like it should be something like this:
Acidic Ancestor 4GGG
Creature - Ooze
Deathtouch
When Acidic Ancestor enters the battlefield, destroy up to three target noncreature permanents and put 2 2/2 green ooze tokens with deathtouch onto the battlefield
2/2
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Maybe I'm just underestimating it, especially the token generation part.
And the fact that it's Tinkerable really makes it, I suppose, but I'm not seeing a strong justification as to *why* it's an artifact, so if we were to see this card, it would likely be without that line.
I too someday dream of an green artifact fatty. It is not so much that wtwlf123 is so good( I like Silvos better on the battlefield myself). It is just so damn flexible, fits in so many decks, with so many interactions that would make it a synergy bonanza. But you are right, there is no reason it is an artifact creature. If anything it might be a green creature that made artifacts or maybe an artifact creature that turned into green tokens. But then it would exile itself, to be more like curse of the swine type cards.
In the history of magic there has been 4 green artifact creatures. Trasnguild Courier and Reaper King are 5 colors, then we are left with Thundering Tanadon( a cycle filler for new phyrexia), and shardless agent. So it seems to me there are 3 ways to make an artifact green creature, and because I really really want one, I will try all 3.
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Strawman of OzWUBRG (Or combination like the Reaper King)
Legendary Creature-Scarecrow
Other creatures you control are scarecrow in addition to their other types.
Scarecrows you control gain Reach and Persist
When a scarecrow attacks or blocks, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
2/2
2. Return to New Phyrexia (Or Other places that will let us cheat on flavor for artifact set theme)
Silvos, Crystalized6GGG should be phyrexian
Legendary Artifact Creature
Indestructible, Trample
When Silvos, Crystalized attacks untap any number of artifacts, creatures and lands
8/5
3. Randomness to support a special set like planechase or commander
Harry, the Hungry Heap4GG
Legendary Artifact Creature - Harry
When Harry, the Hungry Heap enters the battlefield you may remove any number of counters from any number of permanents. Harry enters the battlefield with that many +1/+1 counters.
When Harry, the Hungry Heap dies, you may distribute +1/+1 that were on Harry among any number of target creatures.
0/0
Note that Shardless Agent was an artifact as a throwback to Alara, which had colored artifacts in the Esper Shard. The Planar Chaos deck was a post-Conflux Alara, where the shard lines were no longer so rigid, so they bled the Esper shtick into other colors.
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Inspired by the discussion in the Khans thread. The idea is for a creature that uses Morph as an alternate casting mode when you're flooded, rather than the other way around. This is my first design with that in mind.
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Creature - Beast [R]
Foliage Thrasher can't block.
When Foliage Thrasher is turned face up, creatures you control get +3/+3 and trample until end of turn.
Morph 4GG(You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
2/1
Ranger of the Elements2GG
Creature - Human Wizard
Trample
Morph 3GG (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Ranger of the Elements is turned faced up, target land becomes a 4/4 Elemental creature with trample.
4/4
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Crossbow Aven3WW
Creature - Bird Soldier
Flying, lifelink
Morph 2RW (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Crossbow Aven is turned faced up, it deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
3/2
@wtwlf: I can almost guarantee that this design space will be explored during the block at some point. It's the third time they are visiting this mechanic, so the design space left is somewhat constricted already and this is a perfect move in the right direction.
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Sort of like a souped-up Show and Tell that works with Walkers, Instants, and Sorceries, but also makes it so the spells can be countered (and gives you Eldrazi triggers)
Do want! And to me that seems reasonable, but I fear nowadays it would cost something horrible like UURR.(Compare plasm capture and mana drain) But in the world of cube this wouldn't be over the top. I just don't know if we will ever see the like of tinker, natural order, show and tell, eureka, or sneak attack again. Maybe strapping them on over cost creatures?
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Creature Druid Advisor t: Sacrifice Naturist of the order, search your library for a green creature card and put it onto the battlefield. Then shuffle your library.
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Creature Human Wizard t: Sacrifice Teller of Shows, Each player chooses a nonland card in his or her hand. Then, starting with you, each player casts the card he or she chose without paying its mana cost.
0/2
It's been a while, so the templating is probably not 100% right.
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Destroy all other creatures than target creature.
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Instant
Counter target spell.
Deal 3 damage to target creature or player.
Gain 3 life.
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Dicard a card.
Then return up to one target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield,
return up to one target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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Creature - Berserker!!!
Haste, Double Strike
~ gain a +1/+1 counter each time it deals damage.
2/3
Temur Groundpounder GUR
Creature - Big guy
Trample
5/8
It's been a while, so the templating is probably not 100% right.
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Destroy all other creatures than target creature.
I really don't seem them printing a 3 mana sweeper, even at 3 colors, specifically one with upside. Maybe if it let the opponent choose which of your creatures is kept. Or if you had to choose one creature for each player.
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Then return up to one target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield,
return up to one target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield,
and you may play target a instant or sorcery card from your graveyard without paying it's mana cost.
No, just no. A 3 mana reanimate plus playing a card from graveyard are insane enough and should make this this cost 6. The land thing is worth another mana. And the discard is a bonus here, so I count about 8 mana worth of spells. And there are plenty of commander decks that would play it at 5UBG
It's been a while, so the templating is probably not 100% right.
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Creature - Berserker!!!
Haste, Double Strike
~ gain a +1/+1 counter each time it deals damage.
2/3
Temur Groundpounder GUR
Creature - Big guy
Trample
5/8
Resolution seems like it belongs in the WRB wedge, since those are the three colors of mass destruction.
Mind Trick seems like it needs to cost 4, if not more. Compare to Punish Ignorance.
Sultai Swap seems BONKERS. 3 mana gets you a Zombify, a Restore, AND a [c]Sins of the Past[/c}?
Mardu Berserker likewise seems overly pushed. It swings for 5 with haste, and then next turn hits for 9? For three mana?
Likewise, the Groundpounder seems rather insane. Last time we got three color cards, a mana cost of BCE got us a 5/4 vanilla. You think we'll see trample AND +4 toughness at the same cost?
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Ok how about protecting against exile?
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Spells or abilities your opponent controls cannot exile permanents or spells you control.
4/1
Or punishment for exile?
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Enchantment
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 3 damage to target opponent
I have no idea how to cost it, or the damage size. It would have to allow you to exile your own stuff to do the effect otherwise it would be too narrow. Maybe include a sac outlet on it but lower the damage.
Wreath of fire1R
Enchantment
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 1 damage to target opponent
0 Exile target permanent you control
OR does it need to get strapped to a body
Shroud Burner1R
Creature Goblin
Protection from Blue and White
If a card you own is exiled, you may do 3 damage to target opponent
2/2
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Yup, oh well I guess I will leave that space alone unless I can think of some tricky way out that is not too narrow.
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StaffRagar the Unbound 1R
Legendary Creature - Human Barbarian
Haste, Protection from white
Whenever a spell or ability an opponent controls exiles a spell or permanent you control, Ragar deals 3 damage to that opponent
2/1
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Aven Squadron 2WW
Creature - Bird Soldier
Flying
When Aven Squadron enters the battlefield, put two 1/1 white bird tokens with flying onto the battlefield
Whenever Aven Squadron deals combat damage to a player, you may return it to your hand
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Mundungus, Slime Lord 3GGG
Legendary Creature Slime
Hexproof, Trample
When Mundungus, Slime Lord dies, put a 3/3 green Slime creature token with hexproof and a 3/3 green Slime creature token with Trample onto the battlefield. Each of those tokens have "When this creature dies put three 1/1 green Slime tokens onto the battlefield.
6/6
And I am not sure how to costs this fairly enough and make it playable I have a few options.
Molitov Goblin 1R
Sorcery
Do one damage to target creature or player. Put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Flashback R Pay 2 life
Or
Molitov Goblin 2R
Sorcery
Do two damage to up to two target creatures or players or Put two 1/1 red Goblin goblins token with haste onto the battlefield.
Entwine: Pay 2 life
Maybe
Molitov Goblin 1R
Sorcery
Do one damage to target creature or player. Put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Rebound
Or for the wacky
GoblinBall
Enchantment
Suspend X - Rx, X can't be 0
When you remove a Suspend counter, do one damage to target creature or player and put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Creatures you control get +1/+0
Maybe it would make more sense as a creature
GoblinBaller
Creature Goblin
Suspend X - RRx, X can't be 0
When you remove a Suspend counter, do one damage to target creature or player and put a 1/1 red Goblin goblin token with haste onto the battlefield.
Other Goblins you control get +1/+0
Goblin Baller's power and toughness are equal to the number of goblins you control.
*/*
Enginecoil Wurm 4GG
Artifact Creature - Wurm [M]
Trample
G: Regenerate Enginecoil Wurm. (The next time this creature would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat.)
When Enginecoil Wurm dies, put a 3/3 green Wurm artifact creature token with trample and a 3/3 green Wurm artifact creature token with "G: Regenerate this creature." onto the battlefield.
6/6
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StaffI mean, obviously getting the tokens is a plus. And being an artifact means you can Tinker into it. But Silvos has a lot more Power.
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StaffAnd the fact that it's Tinkerable really makes it, I suppose, but I'm not seeing a strong justification as to *why* it's an artifact, so if we were to see this card, it would likely be without that line.
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Deathtouch
When Acidic Ancestor enters the battlefield, destroy target noncreature permanent.
When Acidic Ancestor dies, if it wasn't a token, put two tokens onto the battlefield that are copies of it.
2/2
Would you play this value machine? It's Acidic Slime meets Hornet Queen.
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StaffAt seven, I feel like it should be something like this:
Acidic Ancestor 4GGG
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2/2
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I too someday dream of an green artifact fatty. It is not so much that wtwlf123 is so good( I like Silvos better on the battlefield myself). It is just so damn flexible, fits in so many decks, with so many interactions that would make it a synergy bonanza. But you are right, there is no reason it is an artifact creature. If anything it might be a green creature that made artifacts or maybe an artifact creature that turned into green tokens. But then it would exile itself, to be more like curse of the swine type cards.
In the history of magic there has been 4 green artifact creatures. Trasnguild Courier and Reaper King are 5 colors, then we are left with Thundering Tanadon( a cycle filler for new phyrexia), and shardless agent. So it seems to me there are 3 ways to make an artifact green creature, and because I really really want one, I will try all 3.
1. 5 Color Artifact Creature
Strawman of Oz WUBRG (Or combination like the Reaper King)
Legendary Creature-Scarecrow
Other creatures you control are scarecrow in addition to their other types.
Scarecrows you control gain Reach and Persist
When a scarecrow attacks or blocks, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
2/2
2. Return to New Phyrexia (Or Other places that will let us cheat on flavor for artifact set theme)
Silvos, Crystalized6GGG should be phyrexian
Legendary Artifact Creature
Indestructible, Trample
When Silvos, Crystalized attacks untap any number of artifacts, creatures and lands
8/5
3. Randomness to support a special set like planechase or commander
Harry, the Hungry Heap 4GG
Legendary Artifact Creature - Harry
When Harry, the Hungry Heap enters the battlefield you may remove any number of counters from any number of permanents. Harry enters the battlefield with that many +1/+1 counters.
When Harry, the Hungry Heap dies, you may distribute +1/+1 that were on Harry among any number of target creatures.
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Foliage Thrasher can't block.
When Foliage Thrasher is turned face up, creatures you control get +3/+3 and trample until end of turn.
Morph 4GG (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
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Creature - Human Wizard
Trample
Morph 3GG (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Ranger of the Elements is turned faced up, target land becomes a 4/4 Elemental creature with trample.
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Creature - Bird Soldier
Flying, lifelink
Morph 2RW (You may cast this face down as a 2/2 creature for 3. Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
When Crossbow Aven is turned faced up, it deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
3/2
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Sort of like a souped-up Show and Tell that works with Walkers, Instants, and Sorceries, but also makes it so the spells can be countered (and gives you Eldrazi triggers)
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Do want! And to me that seems reasonable, but I fear nowadays it would cost something horrible like UURR.(Compare plasm capture and mana drain) But in the world of cube this wouldn't be over the top. I just don't know if we will ever see the like of tinker, natural order, show and tell, eureka, or sneak attack again. Maybe strapping them on over cost creatures?
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Creature Druid Advisor
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Creature Human Wizard
t: Sacrifice Teller of Shows, Each player chooses a nonland card in his or her hand. Then, starting with you, each player casts the card he or she chose without paying its mana cost.
0/2
Abzan Resolution WBG
Sorcery
Destroy all other creatures than target creature.
Jeskai Mindtrick URW
Instant
Counter target spell.
Deal 3 damage to target creature or player.
Gain 3 life.
Sultai Swap BGU
Sorcery
Dicard a card.
Then return up to one target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield,
return up to one target land card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Mardu Berserker RWB
Creature - Berserker!!!
Haste, Double Strike
~ gain a +1/+1 counter each time it deals damage.
2/3
Temur Groundpounder GUR
Creature - Big guy
Trample
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I really don't seem them printing a 3 mana sweeper, even at 3 colors, specifically one with upside. Maybe if it let the opponent choose which of your creatures is kept. Or if you had to choose one creature for each player.
Printable. Analogues right now cost a little more but I am fine with this if a little pushed.
No, just no. A 3 mana reanimate plus playing a card from graveyard are insane enough and should make this this cost 6. The land thing is worth another mana. And the discard is a bonus here, so I count about 8 mana worth of spells. And there are plenty of commander decks that would play it at 5UBG
I can see this as a 1/3 that got counters for player damage.
Nope for 3 colors of mana you get a 5/4 no trample and that is in Naya. This is more what I would expect from those colors.
Temur Groundpounder GUR
Creature - Beast
Cascade
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StaffResolution seems like it belongs in the WRB wedge, since those are the three colors of mass destruction.
Mind Trick seems like it needs to cost 4, if not more. Compare to Punish Ignorance.
Sultai Swap seems BONKERS. 3 mana gets you a Zombify, a Restore, AND a [c]Sins of the Past[/c}?
Mardu Berserker likewise seems overly pushed. It swings for 5 with haste, and then next turn hits for 9? For three mana?
Likewise, the Groundpounder seems rather insane. Last time we got three color cards, a mana cost of BCE got us a 5/4 vanilla. You think we'll see trample AND +4 toughness at the same cost?
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