Was wondering how to draft now that I have modified my cube to have the 5 colors, colorless, and Guilds. We don't winston much anymore in our 2 player games, because we mostly just top deck the whole time, and have gone to sealed. We currently fix 4 of each color, 4 colorless, and 6 guild, and randomize 4 of each color, 4 colorless, and 6 guild, which we shuffle together and divide between the two of us. We tried also to separate the guilds into their 10 piles, and randomly pick one each, and then do the rest of the above as normal (minus the guild fixed/random). This might work well for more than 2 players, but didn't work as well for 2. Also, I didn't know if there was a better way to do a 2 player draft. Should we separate out the guild lands and the gold, and fix some of each of those, instead of leaving them all together?
When we Winston, we just shuffle up the cube (lands, multicolour and all) and winston. Usually about 100 cards for 2 players. Seems to work just fine.
If it's not working for you, maybe you'd like to try Winchester Draft. Sealed is fine too, but not as fun in my opinion. I think the drafting is half the fun of cubing.
I'm not sure if its the actual drafting or the mocking of others picks just for fun that I enjoy most. I also love beating people with cards they passed on just to show them what could have been.
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Yes! The winchester draft seems FAR better. It appears to be scaleable to fit skill level as well. Perhaps 3 piles instead of 4, and/or adding a card to each pile only after each player has chosen a pile, etc. I'm excited to try it out!
The only question now is how to pick the 90 or so cards out of the cube to use. In my study of this, it seem like I just need to run more of each color, and less gold/colorless (gold especially). However, I currently have 4 NB lands that go with each guild, included in the guilds, for a total of 40. So, my question is this: should I take the 12 NB lands from my colorless section, and the 40 NB's from the guilds, and make a "land" pile that I fix from? This is how we USED to do it (Fix a certain amount of each color, colorless, gold, and lands). OR should I just leave the lands where they currently are, and just have a Colorless and a Guild pile that I fix from? Obviously this would cut down on how many NB's get into each draft, but is that a bad thing? I'm leaning toward 'no' right now, because as cool as they are, not having as many means you have to be much more selective in your card pics (which promotes better, and usually more fun play), and makes playing less colors more common (and sometimes neccessary).
The drawback I see is that it's possible for one player to get one or two key NB's, and the other to get none at all, creating a potentially severe handicap for the latter player.
Sorry if this sounds a bit noobish, but I just don't have the playtime most of you do, and I'm trying to catch up a bit and learn how to be a better player and drafter (and most importantly, CUBER).
I'll add another vote for sellecting your Winchester pool complletely randomly.
If your Cube's ballanced to have the percents of the various colors, gold, artifacts and land you want to play with, those percentages should be approximately what you end up with in your pool. If it isn't balanced to your prefered percentages, you should probably modify your cube so that it is.
It was a creature beatdown for my opponent, as I drafted heavy black/green and mostly creatures. Gravecrawler is just phenomenal, and Strangleroot Geist, followed by Vorapede gave me goosebumps, especially when S. Geist died twice, but then came BACK for another round with a well timed Gravedigger. The game was a tad lopsided in my favor, as I nailed the picks. Hate drafting Angelic Destiny and some other key cards he needed to make a truly solid deck didn't help him either.
Sunday will be the first Winchester draft with the cube, which will now have a foil Strangleroot Giest and Vorapede to lay down the law.
We are also going to try some variations of the Winchester to tailor it to our skill level. I'm thinking 3 piles instead of 4 as one option. Player 1 would turn 1 card up, and Player 2, 2. After the first pick, Player one would turn up 2, onto the other 2 piles created by player 2 the previous turn, and Player 2 would turn 1 onto the other pile.
The other option is to only flip cards after EACH player has picked.
Option 3 is to combine the above 2 (though I think that would be pushing it).
Just some of my thoughts.
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If it's not working for you, maybe you'd like to try Winchester Draft. Sealed is fine too, but not as fun in my opinion. I think the drafting is half the fun of cubing.
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"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less." -Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
The only question now is how to pick the 90 or so cards out of the cube to use. In my study of this, it seem like I just need to run more of each color, and less gold/colorless (gold especially). However, I currently have 4 NB lands that go with each guild, included in the guilds, for a total of 40. So, my question is this: should I take the 12 NB lands from my colorless section, and the 40 NB's from the guilds, and make a "land" pile that I fix from? This is how we USED to do it (Fix a certain amount of each color, colorless, gold, and lands). OR should I just leave the lands where they currently are, and just have a Colorless and a Guild pile that I fix from? Obviously this would cut down on how many NB's get into each draft, but is that a bad thing? I'm leaning toward 'no' right now, because as cool as they are, not having as many means you have to be much more selective in your card pics (which promotes better, and usually more fun play), and makes playing less colors more common (and sometimes neccessary).
The drawback I see is that it's possible for one player to get one or two key NB's, and the other to get none at all, creating a potentially severe handicap for the latter player.
Sorry if this sounds a bit noobish, but I just don't have the playtime most of you do, and I'm trying to catch up a bit and learn how to be a better player and drafter (and most importantly, CUBER).
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If your Cube's ballanced to have the percents of the various colors, gold, artifacts and land you want to play with, those percentages should be approximately what you end up with in your pool. If it isn't balanced to your prefered percentages, you should probably modify your cube so that it is.
Angelic Destiny
Vorapede
Gravecrawler
Foil Strangleroot Geist
Foil Graffdiggers Cage
It was a creature beatdown for my opponent, as I drafted heavy black/green and mostly creatures. Gravecrawler is just phenomenal, and Strangleroot Geist, followed by Vorapede gave me goosebumps, especially when S. Geist died twice, but then came BACK for another round with a well timed Gravedigger. The game was a tad lopsided in my favor, as I nailed the picks. Hate drafting Angelic Destiny and some other key cards he needed to make a truly solid deck didn't help him either.
Sunday will be the first Winchester draft with the cube, which will now have a foil Strangleroot Giest and Vorapede to lay down the law.
We are also going to try some variations of the Winchester to tailor it to our skill level. I'm thinking 3 piles instead of 4 as one option. Player 1 would turn 1 card up, and Player 2, 2. After the first pick, Player one would turn up 2, onto the other 2 piles created by player 2 the previous turn, and Player 2 would turn 1 onto the other pile.
The other option is to only flip cards after EACH player has picked.
Option 3 is to combine the above 2 (though I think that would be pushing it).
Just some of my thoughts.