4/2 first striker sounds good. But I actually got hook'd on phonics with the Abyssal Presecutor, it really does have tons of synergies in this deck. :D!
Also, I'm trying a different spell-set to see how that goes. Its going to set up an earlier defense against boros decks and such.
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EDH UThada Adel AcquisitorU GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
Basically, I just took the curve from Gortzen's Jund deck, and applied it to Grixis Mid-Range. Sadly, the cascade cards available for Grixis seem a little weaker than those available to Jund, so I wasn't able to use that, but I hope that between Treasure Hunt and Jace, it will make up for it.
I think that Grim Discovery is a card advantage machine. If you up to 4 scalding tarn and 2 other fetch, it becomes two mana for a land drop and a waste of that removal your opponent played
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Because she's the hero standard deserves, but not the one it needs right now... and so we'll chase her... because she can take it... because she's not a hero... she's a silent guardian
I've tested Grim Discovery and it really slows down the flow of the deck. Sure it brings backa sclading tarn or a creature. It just wastes a spot.
Something that I'm going to test with is Kathari Bomber. It has great synergy with Siege-Gang Commander. It gives you tokens, plus unearths.
I actually am playing a jund deck right now. I actually won because of Kathari Bomber too. The tokens really help.
Another thing is, i took out Wrexial and I'm testing two others. Sedris, The Traitor King, and Prince Of Thralls . Though, Prince is pretty lame so I'm going to drop him an put two Sphinx's back in, and replace Wrexial for the Traitor king. :D!
Edit: Heres my new list, will be updating first post.
Grim Discovery is an excellent top deck after a Blightning, but I'm just not sure what to take out for it.
On another note, what do you all think of Swerve? Sideboard or Main Deck? It seems really useful against both Jund and U/W control. It reuses bolt, blightning, pulse, path, o-ring, and journey while countering all of U/W's counter magic (change the target to Swerve itself).
I actually have Swerve mainboard because it is simply just that good against everything that uses kill spells. The only thing that its not good against is Elfdrazi because they don't cast very many killspells and such. My Sideboard is pretty much made to face everything in general except for jacerator, and that such. To be honest no one runs jacerator or planeswalker control in my meta. If they did I have a few Pithing Needles, and probably then I'd use Grim Discoveryjust to keep a card advantage. Even though I do believe it doesn't help.
The thing that is really interesting about my new list is the Siege-Gang Commander to Kathari Bomber synergy. Serves a lot of purposes. Get cheap blockers/attacks/instant two damage. Its pretty nice. The only bad thing is that Kathari dies when it deals combat damage. Not saying thats a bad thing since you get a card advantage afterwards. i think it is a nice two for one.
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EDH UThada Adel AcquisitorU GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
The Bomber will make you tokens twice, and the Creeper either goes unblocked or takes 2+ creatures down with it, but the Gatekeeper is a BBB cost with kicker, and you never want to be stuck in just one color at the start of the game...
I'd go with the Bomber, but that's just my 2 cents.
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Now playing:
Standard-- UB Brains
Legacy-- UB Dredges
Commander-- U Sakashima
So I did what popertop suggested and ran Kedereckt. Luckily I got to test it against a white weenie deck. They had so many problems with two of them. Funniest thing, I got three lightning bolts in my hand. So pretty much hitting a hard 2-4 for a few turns then triple bolting for win. Haha.
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EDH UThada Adel AcquisitorU GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
So at this point, I have no idea which is better. Kathari is good against some decks, creeper is good against others. I'm thinkin about sb one, and mb the other. Suggestions?
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EDH UThada Adel AcquisitorU GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
Because I only run 3 of either. So, I'd have to drop something for one extra one of those. I honestly don't need to drop anything else on the creature board. Its really that 3 card slot thats hurting. Honestly, I'm thinking about just not putting either in and adding 1 presecutor, 1 nighthawk, and 1 sedraxis. But, in my oppinion I believe I need that extra creature. SO, between a basically unblockable 2/3 deathtoucher, and a 2/2 that when deals combat dmg gives you two tokens. Idk which to choose. Both can prove very liably.
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UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
(In response to the question posed in the thread's title)
I've been teating that decklist and it's quite flexible. Shambling remains isn't as good as nighthAwk tho
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
4 Crumbling Necropolis
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Mountain
3 Island
3 Swamp
3 Drowned Catacombs
2 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Dragonskull Summit
Creatures(17):
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Sedraxis Spector
3 Gatekeeper of Malakir
2 Siege-Gang Commander
3 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
1 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Blightning
3 Grixis Charm
4 Terminate
3 Jace, The Mind Sculptor
3 Thought Hemorrhage
3 Chain Reaction
3 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Anathemancer
3 Double Negative
I'm playing around with a decklist for this "Turmoils of Grixis" and I think it could be pretty interesting.
Currently Working on:
"All is fair in Love and Magic."
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Ch.3 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=6409825#post6409825
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In other words.
I like the way this deck runs.
Im just wondering why all of you guys dropped nicol.
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
4x scalding tarn
3x drowned catacombs
4x crumbling necropolics
2x dragonskull summit
3x creeping tar pit
3x island
2x mountain
3x swamp
4x kathari remnant
3x siege-gang commander
4x sedraxis specter
4x vampire nighthawk
2x Thraximunder
2x Wrexial, the Risen Deep
spells
1x cruel ultimatum
4x blightning
2x grixis charm
4x lightning bolt
2x terminate
2x basilisk collar
2x Jace, the mind sculptor
i have fun with it if nothing else.......wrexial maindeck has been working for me as i seem to only run up against decks running blue on MWS......
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
4 Crumbling Necropolis
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Swamp
4 Mountain
4 Island
4 Firefield Ogre
4 Sedraxis Spectre
4 Hellspark Elemental
4 Hell's Thunder
Spells: (20)
3 Grixis Charm
3 Blightning
3 Lightning Bolt
3 Essence Scatter
3 Terminate
2 Infest
3 Burning Inquiry
I think Firefield Ogre could work out nice in this deck.
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Ch.3 http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=6409825#post6409825
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Also, I'm trying a different spell-set to see how that goes. Its going to set up an earlier defense against boros decks and such.
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
4 Crumbling Necropolis
2 Dragonskull Summit
2 Lavaclaw Reaches
1 Drowned Catacomb
4 Creeping Tarpit
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Mountain
3 Island
3 Swamp
4 Tidehallow Strix
4 Sedraxis Specter
4 Singe-Mind Ogre
3 Siege-Gang Commander
3 Defiler of Souls
Other 15
4 Blightning
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Treasure Hunt
3 Soul Manipulation
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
Basically, I just took the curve from Gortzen's Jund deck, and applied it to Grixis Mid-Range. Sadly, the cascade cards available for Grixis seem a little weaker than those available to Jund, so I wasn't able to use that, but I hope that between Treasure Hunt and Jace, it will make up for it.
EllE:
Something that I'm going to test with is Kathari Bomber. It has great synergy with Siege-Gang Commander. It gives you tokens, plus unearths.
I actually am playing a jund deck right now. I actually won because of Kathari Bomber too. The tokens really help.
Another thing is, i took out Wrexial and I'm testing two others. Sedris, The Traitor King, and Prince Of Thralls . Though, Prince is pretty lame so I'm going to drop him an put two Sphinx's back in, and replace Wrexial for the Traitor king. :D!
Edit: Heres my new list, will be updating first post.
4 Crumbling Necropolis
3 Dragonskull Summit
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Drowned Catacomb
3 Island
4 Mountain
3 Swamp
Creature:
2 Siege-Gang Commander
3 Sedraxis Spector
3 Vampire Nighthawk
2 Abyssal Presecutor
3 Kathari Bomber
1 Sedris, The Traitor King
2 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
4 Lightning Bolt
2 Terminate
4 Blightning
3 Swerve
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
2 Jace, The Mind Sculptor
3 Grixis Charm
1 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
1 Wrexial, The Risen Deep
1 Terminate
3 Chain Reaction
3 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Double Negative
3 Basilisk Collar (Because I can!)
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
On another note, what do you all think of Swerve? Sideboard or Main Deck? It seems really useful against both Jund and U/W control. It reuses bolt, blightning, pulse, path, o-ring, and journey while countering all of U/W's counter magic (change the target to Swerve itself).
The thing that is really interesting about my new list is the Siege-Gang Commander to Kathari Bomber synergy. Serves a lot of purposes. Get cheap blockers/attacks/instant two damage. Its pretty nice. The only bad thing is that Kathari dies when it deals combat damage. Not saying thats a bad thing since you get a card advantage afterwards. i think it is a nice two for one.
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
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Um what do you people think is better here? Gatekeeper of Malakir, Kathari Bomber or Kederekt Creeper. Which would fit best in this deck?
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
I'd go with the Bomber, but that's just my 2 cents.
Now playing:
Standard-- UB Brains
Legacy-- UB Dredges
Commander-- U Sakashima
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
Whichever seems more powerful in testing is probably the right choice.
And I think Gatekeeper/Fleshbag is an auto-include, fleshbag being better for this builds mana-base.
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG
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UThada Adel AcquisitorU
GB Savara, Queen of the Golgori BG
GR Ulasht, the Hate Seed RG