ok so i know boss naya is the new cool thing... but what about a naya build that more closely mimics zoo in extended. I mean zoo seems to be if not the biggest a very large portion of the extended field. Its hard to argue with that
disclaimer* i didnt really include the mana base in these lists. im also substituting loam lion for kird ape, maybe not ideal but pretty close
ok so cards we're mising from domain zoo (not including sideboard) Tarmogofy - So I realize this is a huge piece to be missing but for one more mana and a little more color intensity we've got wolly throctar not exactly a exact substitution but hey we gotta make due lightning helix - staying on the theme of a bolt with a little something extra we could do searing blaze ... once again not ideal tribal flames ummmmmm ok not gonna try on this one. especially since we don't have the ravinica dual lands to hit a domain trigger very well gaddock teeg -once again the world isnt perfect
ok so cards missing from naya zoo (not including sidebaord) Tarmogoyf lightning helix
2! only 2!
Ok so I realize the lists aren't exactly comprehensive but to me that seems like an awful big percentage of an extended deck thats available to standard. I think that seems pretty rare.
The lands are obviously an issue. but i guess we'll just have to deal with a little shakier mana base, it worked for LSV with boss naya.
ok so i know boss naya is the new cool thing... but what about a naya build that more closely mimics zoo in extended. I mean zoo seems to be if not the biggest a very large portion of the extended field. Its hard to argue with that
disclaimer* i didnt really include the mana base in these lists. im also substituting loam lion for kird ape, maybe not ideal but pretty close
ok so cards we're mising from domain zoo (not including sideboard) Tarmogofy - So I realize this is a huge piece to be missing but for one more mana and a little more color intensity we've got wolly throctar not exactly a exact substitution but hey we gotta make due lightning helix - staying on the theme of a bolt with a little something extra we could do searing blaze ... once again not ideal tribal flames ummmmmm ok not gonna try on this one. especially since we don't have the ravinica dual lands to hit a domain trigger very well gaddock teeg -once again the world isnt perfect
ok so cards missing from naya zoo (not including sidebaord) Tarmogoyf lightning helix
2! only 2!
Ok so I realize the lists aren't exactly comprehensive but to me that seems like an awful big percentage of an extended deck thats available to standard. I think that seems pretty rare.
The lands are obviously an issue. but i guess we'll just have to deal with a little shakier mana base, it worked for LSV with boss naya.
thoughts?
Hi, my name is TigerBreak, and i'm an extended player. (sits down)
Story time.
But seriously - I love my extended zoo deck (domain zoo) - it's just alot of fun to play, and plays well. Given that, I wanted to build a zoo deck for my friend coming out to play FNM for the first time in 8 years. So I built something like this:
The problem I found with this is it matches up poorly with just about every tier 1 and 1.5 strategy in standard.
White Weenie has a better aggro rush
Blue White Control has better tools
Vamps has more removal and lifelink
Jund has more card advantage
Burn has more reach
Grixis and RUW has more removal
Extended can run toolbox decks - standard can't. The retooled deck I run (boss naya) is full of card advantage - which is a must for today's standard.
Any Naya deck in standard has to run the main CA engines to be good, IMO
Decks in the hopper... Standard - R/G Aggro RG Standard - Book Burning UR Modern - U/W Tempo UW Legacy - Master of Affinity XX Vintage - Burnination RR
disclaimer* i didnt really include the mana base in these lists. im also substituting loam lion for kird ape, maybe not ideal but pretty close
ok so cards we're mising from domain zoo (not including sideboard)
Tarmogofy - So I realize this is a huge piece to be missing but for one more mana and a little more color intensity we've got wolly throctar not exactly a exact substitution but hey we gotta make due
lightning helix - staying on the theme of a bolt with a little something extra we could do searing blaze ... once again not ideal
tribal flames ummmmmm ok not gonna try on this one. especially since we don't have the ravinica dual lands to hit a domain trigger very well
gaddock teeg -once again the world isnt perfect
ok so cards missing from naya zoo (not including sidebaord)
Tarmogoyf
lightning helix
2! only 2!
Ok so I realize the lists aren't exactly comprehensive but to me that seems like an awful big percentage of an extended deck thats available to standard. I think that seems pretty rare.
The lands are obviously an issue. but i guess we'll just have to deal with a little shakier mana base, it worked for LSV with boss naya.
thoughts?
Hi, my name is TigerBreak, and i'm an extended player. (sits down)
Story time.
But seriously - I love my extended zoo deck (domain zoo) - it's just alot of fun to play, and plays well. Given that, I wanted to build a zoo deck for my friend coming out to play FNM for the first time in 8 years. So I built something like this:
3 Goblin Guide
3 Loam Lion
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Steward of Valeron
3 Woolly Thoctar
2 Ranger of Eos
3 Explore
2 Path to Exile
2 Trace of Abundance
3 Rest for the Weary
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Ajani Vengeant
2 Sunpetal Grove
2 Rootbound Crag
1 Raging Ravine
1 Stirring Wildwood
7 Mountains
4 Plains
5 Forest
The problem I found with this is it matches up poorly with just about every tier 1 and 1.5 strategy in standard.
White Weenie has a better aggro rush
Blue White Control has better tools
Vamps has more removal and lifelink
Jund has more card advantage
Burn has more reach
Grixis and RUW has more removal
Extended can run toolbox decks - standard can't. The retooled deck I run (boss naya) is full of card advantage - which is a must for today's standard.
Any Naya deck in standard has to run the main CA engines to be good, IMO
Standard - R/G Aggro RG
Standard - Book Burning UR
Modern - U/W Tempo UW
Legacy - Master of Affinity XX
Vintage - Burnination RR
Find me on Modo under Tigerbreak
Also Qasali pridemage.
And Rest for the Weary is just glaring. Also Bloodbraid Elf.
Seriously, that's a pretty bad Zoo list, as far as I can tell.