No updates for a while so here is the latest version of my deck. My maindeck is very hateful against creature based strategies, in particular the Saheeli decks, while being completely creatureless which is a concept I enjoy. Because of all the creature related cards, maindeck is weaker to control decks but not impossible. That matchup is improved by extensive sideboarding which usually removes creature removal with other forms of removal and hand attack. The only creature based sideboard option is the replacing of 1 Shock and 2 Anguished Unmaking for the 3 Radiant Flames for go wide creature strategies. Authority of the Consuls + Nahiri, the Harbinger make such a great combo.
I'm most excited about Canyon Slough, Liliana, and never return. However, for the more aggressive varients I bet the new Gideon will be a fantastic follow up to heart of Kiran or Oath of Chandra
I made this list last night and have been testing hands for most of the day. I know that it is not complete, as I know I want Harsh Mentor and Cast Out, with Cast out likely to replace Snare and Harsh Mentor for Shock and UD in the side board as a side tech against Mardu Vehicles. I also know that I want one more land as the land constancy in my test hands hasn't been the greatest.
My preference is I've found Nahiri to be better for me than Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Also running 3 Sorin's with 24 lands is putting a large strain on your manabase. I'd recommend trimming some cards for 26 lands or trimming down the Sorin's to 1 if you're only going to run 24 lands.
While Authority is one mana cheaper (and a different color) than Curse, Curse hurts the enemy instead of disrupting them and I feel that that is more important as drain damage adds up quick.
On the land issue, I did mention that I intended to add more land. Will look into grasp and oath of Chandra. Thraben Inspector is card I forgot about, thank you for reminding me of it. I don't have Nahiri, hence why she's not here in the list.
On the issue of 2 mana discard spells, why Lay Bare the Heart over Transgress the Mind? I've seen people say that it's better, but haven't seen an explanation. Both still hit Gideon, both cat combo pieces, while transgress can nail legendaries and lay can hit 1 and 2 drops.
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Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
Saheeli hate
I suppose you could bring curse in against tokens and perhaps zombies where they play lots of creatures and try and force through damage. Thus making the card more versatile than authority by having more uses. However, if you're only concern is countering saheeli combo authority is able to get on the board before they have negate mana up and you can play it without having to give up casting a discard spell on turn two or a planeswalkers later on as you can just play authority and something else with ease due to it's cheap cost.
Thraben
He's been fantastic for me and I went up to 4 in my list. I haven't updated my list for amonkhet just yet as I'm waiting to see how the meta pans out and the deck is pretty solid anyway as is.
Discard
There aren't that many legendaries right now compared to how many cards 3 or > restrict. It's just more likely to actually hit something. Transgress is better against decks with Torrential or Liliana, however our decks are already strong in those matchups so I like having the more consistent option. It's really just a matter of preference and your expected meta.
I'd really like to try out Heart of Kiran and the new Gideon however I'm waiting for after the next ban announcement to buy cards as I'm worried they will be banned.
Welp. With Saheeli combo banned we can go back to playing more sorcery removal. Grasp of Darkness is still pretty good for Gideon and heart of Kiran though so I'll keep some of those. Fatal Push will still be fine too as a cheap removal. Most likely will be trimming down on unlicensed Disintegration and added Second Sun and more Oaths back to the deck.
3 Authority of the Consuls
3 Fatal Push
3 Oath of Liliana
3 Shock
3 Oath of Chandra
2 Painful Truths
2 Anguished Unmaking
4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
3 Nahiri, the Harbinger
2 Liliana, the Last Hope
2 Sorin, Grim Nemesis
3 Inspiring Vantage
3 Concealed Courtyard
3 Smoldering Marsh
3 Shambling Vent
1 Needle Spires
5 Mountain
3 Plains
2 Swamp
3 Fragmentize
2 Quarantine Field
3 Transgress the Mind
2 Lost Legacy
3 Radiant Flames
2 Release the Gremlins
[Commander: Kess, Dissident Mage]
I'm most excited about Canyon Slough, Liliana, and never return. However, for the more aggressive varients I bet the new Gideon will be a fantastic follow up to heart of Kiran or Oath of Chandra
Martyr Proc Thread
Esper Relicblade Thread
Standard:
Mardu Superfriends
Turbofog
2 Noxious Gearhulk
Instants (13)
3 Fatal Push
3 Shock
2 Blessed Alliance
2 Anguished Unmaking
3 Unlicensed Disintegration
Sorceries (7)
2 Transgress the Mind
3 Painful Truths
2 Fumigate
Enchantments (4)
3 Oath of Liliana
1 Stasis Snare
2 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
3 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2 Ob Nixilis Reignited
3 Sorin, Grim Nemisis
Land (24)
4 Concealed Courtyard
4 Inspiring Vantage
3 Mountain
3 Plains
4 Shambling Vent
4 Smoldering Marsh
2 Swamp
2 By Force
2 Release the Gremlins
1 Shock
2 Trespasser's Curse
3 Dispossess
2 Stasis Snare
1 Unlicensed Disintegration
I made this list last night and have been testing hands for most of the day. I know that it is not complete, as I know I want Harsh Mentor and Cast Out, with Cast out likely to replace Snare and Harsh Mentor for Shock and UD in the side board as a side tech against Mardu Vehicles. I also know that I want one more land as the land constancy in my test hands hasn't been the greatest.
Trespasser's Curse would come in against Copy Cat, as the drain for each token entering is a wonderful deterrent to combo-ing off, while By Force, Release the Gremlins, and Dispossess all combat Vehicles in some form.
Any suggestions on the tweaks for the list?
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
My preference is I've found Nahiri to be better for me than Gideon, Ally of Zendikar. Also running 3 Sorin's with 24 lands is putting a large strain on your manabase. I'd recommend trimming some cards for 26 lands or trimming down the Sorin's to 1 if you're only going to run 24 lands.
Martyr Proc Thread
Esper Relicblade Thread
Standard:
Mardu Superfriends
Turbofog
On the land issue, I did mention that I intended to add more land. Will look into grasp and oath of Chandra. Thraben Inspector is card I forgot about, thank you for reminding me of it. I don't have Nahiri, hence why she's not here in the list.
On the issue of 2 mana discard spells, why Lay Bare the Heart over Transgress the Mind? I've seen people say that it's better, but haven't seen an explanation. Both still hit Gideon, both cat combo pieces, while transgress can nail legendaries and lay can hit 1 and 2 drops.
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
I suppose you could bring curse in against tokens and perhaps zombies where they play lots of creatures and try and force through damage. Thus making the card more versatile than authority by having more uses. However, if you're only concern is countering saheeli combo authority is able to get on the board before they have negate mana up and you can play it without having to give up casting a discard spell on turn two or a planeswalkers later on as you can just play authority and something else with ease due to it's cheap cost.
Thraben
He's been fantastic for me and I went up to 4 in my list. I haven't updated my list for amonkhet just yet as I'm waiting to see how the meta pans out and the deck is pretty solid anyway as is.
Discard
There aren't that many legendaries right now compared to how many cards 3 or > restrict. It's just more likely to actually hit something. Transgress is better against decks with Torrential or Liliana, however our decks are already strong in those matchups so I like having the more consistent option. It's really just a matter of preference and your expected meta.
I'd really like to try out Heart of Kiran and the new Gideon however I'm waiting for after the next ban announcement to buy cards as I'm worried they will be banned.
Martyr Proc Thread
Esper Relicblade Thread
Standard:
Mardu Superfriends
Turbofog
Martyr Proc Thread
Esper Relicblade Thread
Standard:
Mardu Superfriends
Turbofog
3 Goblin Dark-Dwellers
Spells:31
2 Blessed Alliance
3 Grasp of Darkness
3 Lay Bare the Heart
2 Oath of Chandra
3 Liliana, the Last Hope
3 Oath of Liliana
3 Painful Truths
2 Sweltering Suns
3 Chandra, Torch of Defiance
3 Nahiri, the Harbinger
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 Descend upon the Sinful
2 Sorin, Grim Nemesis
4 Concealed Courtyard
4 Evolving Wilds
2 Foreboding Ruins
2 Inspiring Vantage
1 Mountain
1 Needle Spires
2 Plains
4 Shambling Vent
3 Smoldering Marsh
3 Swamp
3 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
1 Goblin Dark-Dwellers
1 By Force
2 Fragmentize
2 Magma Spray
2 Transgress the Mind
1 Sweltering Suns
2 Unburden
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited
Once I can get some of the new cards this is where I'm going to start.
Martyr Proc Thread
Esper Relicblade Thread
Standard:
Mardu Superfriends
Turbofog