I was looking on a site today, and i stumpled on a very instresting deck. it was UG beats. It was weird because i was just thinking about a deck like this but never had the motive to make it. Well here is a list that got top 8 at regionals.
The deck is very intresting indeed, with Shackles playing a diffrent roll as it does in MUC, you take there creautres to Elimnate potential blockers and deal extra damage. You also don't lose that good MUC match-up that MGB has, and you have a good match-up against that. This deck has a lot of potential and im going to star playtesting it... anyone else intrested?
it looks like an interesting deck, but its mana curve looks like it would like Mana Leak more than Condescend since it doesn't want to sit back on a whole lot of mana.
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I was thinking that to also, adding Meloku would be good. Since there is no way we can't play Beacon we could use the extra creatures. Also maybe cutting a Jitte for a Sword.... because the sword gives you more card draw. Also i fell that we need to work on the sidebored, it seems rather random.
With adding that many islands to the deck, would you think at least playtesting Kira, Great Glass Spinner be worth some effort. I'd say yes if the deck ran Aether Vials, as most removal is targeted and she really does a nice job of shutting down opposing Shackles. may not be worth it as only Eternal Witness, Magpie, and Simulacrums are susceptable to Shackles and 2 of those due most of their job just coming into play.
Yea, I believe it was at magic-league where I saw this, it did very well in a large tournament.
However, I must say, the deck is really a fluke in my opinion. It's good specifically in an MUC metagame which is what magic-league is. Decks like RG Beats and Tooth and Nail would really stomp a hole in it.
This deck top 8'd at a regionals, not magic-league. And Magic-League dosen't really count, almost all the players on there suck, only once in ahwile i play good players on there. But further more this deck is great in a heavy MGB and MUC meta-game and i don't think RG has a good match-up vs this.
Yeah, thats magic-league for ya. Most of the people on their are just a bunch of JSS net deckers. Some of them don't and some of them are good players but you don't find them much.
But i think this could be a very good deck with the right playtesting and right modifacations, this deck could be golden. I will try to work on it tonigh at my local store but i don't think i will have enough time.
Yeah, thats magic-league for ya. Most of the people on their are just a bunch of JSS net deckers. Some of them don't and some of them are good players but you don't find them much.
But i think this could be a very good deck with the right playtesting and right modifacations, this deck could be golden. I will try to work on it tonigh at my local store but i don't think i will have enough time.
for the 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999th time, there's nothing wrong with netdecking
I like the Idea of this deck seems to have a good amtchup against MUC but not so much against cloud or Tooth. I think it might be susceptible to burn also making Kira a board option? Just some thoughts ill play around with it and see how well It does.... BTW what where did it top eight at which region?
Hmmm... Maybe plow under main deck that gives it more control over tooth.
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yes turning of the tide that was a nice, props on breaking the deck
I really do not mean to come across insulting, but this seems to me like a cross-breed between MUC and MGA. I can see how it would win as it does use Trolls, but that does not mean it is great or anything. I seriously think you would be better off choosing one color or the other or go with u/g control.
Anyway, I will go ahead and try it out when I get MWS up and running just so I don't have to eat my words.
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I really do not mean to come across insulting, but this seems to me like a cross-breed between MUC and MGA. I can see how it would win as it does use Trolls, but that does not mean it is great or anything. I seriously think you would be better off choosing one color or the other or go with u/g control.
Anyway, I will go ahead and try it out when I get MWS up and running just so I don't have to eat my words.
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Well surprsing but this deck is very consitent and good. It is a really fun deck and it runs simply amazing. So by no means is it a bad deck or should just change to a MUC or MGB its a good deck and it only has one real bad match-up wich is Tooth.
Well surprsing but this deck is very consitent and good. It is a really fun deck and it runs simply amazing. So by no means is it a bad deck or should just change to a MUC or MGB its a good deck and it only has one real bad match-up wich is Tooth.
Yeah, well Tooth has been known to ruin everyone's day from time to time. Like I said, I will give it a try eventually. At first glance, it looked kinda lame duck but you never know how good something is until you play it.
My MbC constantly beats this build, I went 2-0 in my last FnM against this 3 times. (it has bcome increasingly popular.) I have also been beating MuC on a regular basis.
P.S. MaRo, you haven't been returning my Emails. :disgust4: Come on man, where's the love?
My MbC constantly beats this build, I went 2-0 in my last FnM against this 3 times. (it has bcome increasingly popular.) I have also been beating MuC on a regular basis.
P.S. MaRo, you haven't been returning my Emails. :disgust4: Come on man, where's the love?
Squigles, this has no help for us. We are not talking about MBC here. Also not to many people play MBC because it isn't very good and it wouldnt be a problem for this deck then.
Well GL mark, i will be playing it for FNM today, maybe i can win or maybe not... but hey... i guess i will have fun either way.
P.S. MaRo, you haven't been returning my Emails. :disgust4: Come on man, where's the love?
Man, I guess I'm just too busy. Just in case you're serious, I ain't the real MaRo.
@Chalupa: Good luck with that. It sure seems that there is a well balanced meta that is widely diverse. I am sure there is room for all kinds of different things. Anyway, I should finally get MWS in 2 weeks or so. I just got my taxes back so I can get a laptop. WOO-HOO!!!
My MbC constantly beats this build, I went 2-0 in my last FnM against this 3 times. (it has bcome increasingly popular.) I have also been beating MuC on a regular basis.
P.S. MaRo, you haven't been returning my Emails. :disgust4: Come on man, where's the love?
Say something that's useful to the conversation other than saying "Oh, I beat this with that, the end".
Plus, MBC is MUC's best matchup. MBC has no games against it as it has no way of killing shackles and half its cards are creature kills - which is the reason why that your build is so effective against any creature heavy deck.
I have ansewers for MuC. Plenty. About 9 SB slots to be exact. Do you want my Decklist for MbC? PM me. Otherwise, just believe that MbC is a way more stable build than MuC.
First off dont come here telling people whut to believe...
Second ur not talking anbout the deck of the thread at all...
Third the MUC people u play against must be half asleep if u win against them with MBC
This deck is designed for a MUC heavy metagame and would work well against it but it would have problems against a lot of other decks like MBC and WW not to mention the more traditional UG builds.
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The deck is very intresting indeed, with Shackles playing a diffrent roll as it does in MUC, you take there creautres to Elimnate potential blockers and deal extra damage. You also don't lose that good MUC match-up that MGB has, and you have a good match-up against that. This deck has a lot of potential and im going to star playtesting it... anyone else intrested?
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cards like mana leak or, even more relevant, spiketail hatchling would be better in those slots.
However, I must say, the deck is really a fluke in my opinion. It's good specifically in an MUC metagame which is what magic-league is. Decks like RG Beats and Tooth and Nail would really stomp a hole in it.
Huh...the guy at magic-league must have netdecked it.
Go figure
But i think this could be a very good deck with the right playtesting and right modifacations, this deck could be golden. I will try to work on it tonigh at my local store but i don't think i will have enough time.
for the 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999th time, there's nothing wrong with netdecking
Hmmm... Maybe plow under main deck that gives it more control over tooth.
Anyway, I will go ahead and try it out when I get MWS up and running just so I don't have to eat my words.
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Well surprsing but this deck is very consitent and good. It is a really fun deck and it runs simply amazing. So by no means is it a bad deck or should just change to a MUC or MGB its a good deck and it only has one real bad match-up wich is Tooth.
Since this deck runs both BOP and STE, it probably has no problem using cranial extraction as well.
Sideboarding becomes the weapon against the rest of the meta when you have STE / BOP.
Yeah, well Tooth has been known to ruin everyone's day from time to time. Like I said, I will give it a try eventually. At first glance, it looked kinda lame duck but you never know how good something is until you play it.
P.S. MaRo, you haven't been returning my Emails. :disgust4: Come on man, where's the love?
Squigles, this has no help for us. We are not talking about MBC here. Also not to many people play MBC because it isn't very good and it wouldnt be a problem for this deck then.
Well GL mark, i will be playing it for FNM today, maybe i can win or maybe not... but hey... i guess i will have fun either way.
Man, I guess I'm just too busy. Just in case you're serious, I ain't the real MaRo.
@Chalupa: Good luck with that. It sure seems that there is a well balanced meta that is widely diverse. I am sure there is room for all kinds of different things. Anyway, I should finally get MWS in 2 weeks or so. I just got my taxes back so I can get a laptop. WOO-HOO!!!
Say something that's useful to the conversation other than saying "Oh, I beat this with that, the end".
Plus, MBC is MUC's best matchup. MBC has no games against it as it has no way of killing shackles and half its cards are creature kills - which is the reason why that your build is so effective against any creature heavy deck.
Second ur not talking anbout the deck of the thread at all...
Third the MUC people u play against must be half asleep if u win against them with MBC
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