If you aren't running psychic spiral you really need extra aetherlings in case you get a pile like (aetherling, spell, land, land, land) twice in a row or they seize an aetherling. In that case if you have no more win conditions you are SOL. It's kind of a deckbuilding constraint of running augury.
If you aren't running psychic spiral you really need extra aetherlings in case you get a pile like (aetherling, spell, land, land, land) twice in a row or they seize an aetherling. In that case if you have no more win conditions you are SOL. It's kind of a deckbuilding constraint of running augury.
You've missed the point. Steam Augury and Aetherling don't even belong in the same deck. Steam Augury is best in a deck with threat diversity, not in a deck with a couple of wincons. A good example would be Counterburn. All of your cards effectively do the same thing, so most of the time you'll be agnostic to the pile you receive.
No Steam Augury works fine in a deck with about 3 win cons as long as they're resiliant ones.
If you have only one left in the deck you stop casting Augury but this doesn't happen often.
My three are: Aetherling, Elxixir of Immortality and Psychic Spiral (1 of each).
Your definition of "fine" differs very much from mine, but feel free to continue to play suboptimal cards in your deck. Opportunity and even Thoughtflare are better choices in control decks.
Not really different to having your aetherlings slaughter games or pithing needled. You need the back plan anyway. I only have the two I am yet to lose both aetherlings myself.
Oh joy. People arguing about Steam Augury and what to run alongside it.
I have one Aetherling, 2 Assemble the Legion, and 2 Elspeth in my 60.
I pretty much only play Steam Augury when I have one of those in my hand.
Now, it's easy to say that Augury is a dead card if that play-style is adopted, but in a pinch you can emergency it.
Consider this scenario from the past Friday ..
My opponent plays Burning Earth. FML.
I respond with Augury, segue into my best 5 to date, and it is..
Wear // Tear
Land
Detention Sphere
Elspeth
Revelation
I made D Sphere, Revelation, Land & Wear // Tear, Elspeth
Next turn I took 2 damage to D Sphere, next end step I revved into Verdict and Aetherling.
Luck was a factor, but my post is meant to illustrate that Augury CAN be used in a Control shell profitably.
"If fetch lands are reprinted I really believe they will be in allied colors (aka Onslaught fetches). If the fetch lands are reprinted you better believe that we'll all be fetching up basics. This would lead me to believe that the set after THS may have a reprint as the temples can't be fetched but it's pure speculation." - posted 03/22/2014 proved correct during Khans spoiler season.
"The set releases for fall 2015 (Blood, Sweat and Tears) and fall 2016 (Lock, Stock and Barrel). One or both of those 2 blocks (I'm betting) are going to contain either Fetch reprints or (more likely) Filter reprints. Filter lands still need a reprint. They are getting pretty high up there and it's been longer than ZEN so it makes a little more sense that Filter lands would see print earlier that fetches." - posted 03/22/2014 proved incorrect about filters coming earlier than fetches, still pending on filters in Origins block.
frankly speaking I've never really hit anything really bad with steam so far, i mean there was once I hit a jace with 4 lands but that was fine since I already had a jace in play. Just had to cycle the extra lands with Izzet Charm
I imagine something like this:
It's late game, opponent casts spell that would finish you (Rakdos' Return let's say)
You cast Augury in response with some mana open and you see counterspell, you split 1 v 4.
Opp: DOES HE HAVE THAT COUNTERSPELL IN HAND??
I will gladly give 4 lands over 1 counterspell in that situation. It's the difference between a guaranteed situation over a possible situation.
I run a R/U control build that has gone: Dissolve, Dissolve, Counterflux, Land, Jace before in response to such a play. It was truly silly.
I've missed 2 land drops already and have elspeth, elspeth, dissolve, and planar cleansing in hand
I'm at 4 land and topdeck steam augury to get land, land, land, land, revelation
I play a land that turn and play land + elspeth the next turn riding her to victory.
Steam Augury's no fact or fiction, but it gets the job done.
I've missed 2 land drops already and have elspeth, elspeth, dissolve, and planar cleansing in hand
I'm at 4 land and topdeck steam augury to get land, land, land, land, revelation
I play a land that turn and play land + elspeth the next turn riding her to victory.
Steam Augury's no fact or fiction, but it gets the job done.
It has been instant speed mulch a lot for me. I have modified my deck to run both.. steam augury and straight draw cards so I can draw when I want action and augury when I need lands. plus the obvious bonuses when you flip up a lot of action.
but what about the best.
I just flipped up Aetherling, Aetherling, Ral Zerek, Far//Away, Land.
End of turn.. Steam Augury you lose.
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I disagree. Four Aetherlings in a deck seems like two too many.
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You've missed the point. Steam Augury and Aetherling don't even belong in the same deck. Steam Augury is best in a deck with threat diversity, not in a deck with a couple of wincons. A good example would be Counterburn. All of your cards effectively do the same thing, so most of the time you'll be agnostic to the pile you receive.
If you have only one left in the deck you stop casting Augury but this doesn't happen often.
My three are: Aetherling, Elxixir of Immortality and Psychic Spiral (1 of each).
Your definition of "fine" differs very much from mine, but feel free to continue to play suboptimal cards in your deck. Opportunity and even Thoughtflare are better choices in control decks.
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GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
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R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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I have one Aetherling, 2 Assemble the Legion, and 2 Elspeth in my 60.
I pretty much only play Steam Augury when I have one of those in my hand.
Now, it's easy to say that Augury is a dead card if that play-style is adopted, but in a pinch you can emergency it.
Consider this scenario from the past Friday ..
My opponent plays Burning Earth. FML.
I respond with Augury, segue into my best 5 to date, and it is..
Wear // Tear
Land
Detention Sphere
Elspeth
Revelation
I made D Sphere, Revelation, Land & Wear // Tear, Elspeth
Next turn I took 2 damage to D Sphere, next end step I revved into Verdict and Aetherling.
Luck was a factor, but my post is meant to illustrate that Augury CAN be used in a Control shell profitably.
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Dispel
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Hallowed Fountain (The land I needed to make him discard hand with Dispel up)
Game.
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"The set releases for fall 2015 (Blood, Sweat and Tears) and fall 2016 (Lock, Stock and Barrel). One or both of those 2 blocks (I'm betting) are going to contain either Fetch reprints or (more likely) Filter reprints. Filter lands still need a reprint. They are getting pretty high up there and it's been longer than ZEN so it makes a little more sense that Filter lands would see print earlier that fetches." - posted 03/22/2014 proved incorrect about filters coming earlier than fetches, still pending on filters in Origins block.
Yeah, solid deck though...
I will gladly give 4 lands over 1 counterspell in that situation. It's the difference between a guaranteed situation over a possible situation.
I run a R/U control build that has gone: Dissolve, Dissolve, Counterflux, Land, Jace before in response to such a play. It was truly silly.
I've missed 2 land drops already and have elspeth, elspeth, dissolve, and planar cleansing in hand
I'm at 4 land and topdeck steam augury to get land, land, land, land, revelation
I play a land that turn and play land + elspeth the next turn riding her to victory.
Steam Augury's no fact or fiction, but it gets the job done.
haha Steam Augury... instant speed mulch.
It has been instant speed mulch a lot for me. I have modified my deck to run both.. steam augury and straight draw cards so I can draw when I want action and augury when I need lands. plus the obvious bonuses when you flip up a lot of action.
Also It combines well with izzet charms loot
Just having raw draw and dig power is important.
sometimes.... flipping up multiple power cards aren't the "best" reveals.
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UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
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R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
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