I recently started playing and I am looking to get two decks. I am interested in a G/W token deck after playing a couple of matches using a pre-packaged RtR dual pack. I'm not really sure of where to start. I want to keep both decks in the $20 range.
Rats would be cheaper to run. I bet you could pick up everything needed for it for about 9 or 10 dollars.
I built my token deck so that all it makes are Centaur tokens and it still does just fine. Granted, I larded the deck with a lot of cheap lifegain spells, but I like undoing the work of my opponents with a single spell.
Here are some cards to look for in the GW deck. You don't need to play all of them, obviously. The most expensive card in here would probably be Lingering Souls or Advent of the Wurm.
I'm not sure what the rat decks play, but I imagine Pack Rats and pretty much every cheap costed rat in standard. Maybe Ogre Slumlord. Definitely disruption and removal in the form of Victim of Night, Murder, Tragic Slip, Duress, Appetite for Brains, etc.
My rats deck is not dissimilar to Lladudno Elf's. Shadow Alley Denizen is a neat idea. Mine is UB, though for the big addition of Havengul Lich. Discarding to Pack Rat then casting is goodness. Recycling Ravenous Rats feels dirty. (In a good way.) Veilborn Ghoul is surprisingly good and a 3 of for me. 2 Ogre Slumlord, and 4 Vampire Nighthawk because the deck was having trouble with aggro. Pretty good alone, but being able to regrow with Lich, great. The Pack Rats give you some inevitability.
There are plenty of things here to upgrade/work with... could toss in a Crusader of Odric or three to get big bodies out early... but I've been messing around with a couple different lists running these cards, and putting a Rancor on your Precinct Captain is insanely good early game... then, of course, you can just start throwing down Intangible Virtue at every opportunity.
It's insanely good to cast a Lingering Souls and get two 3/3 fliers with vigilance that can keep on beating in the air.
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The Veilborn Ghoul is there to provide a discard outlet for the rats (it comes back when you play a Swamp). You could go up to 3 and cut 2 cards from elsewhere but in all honestly I never felt the need. I usually had enough dead cards to discard.
Duress is nice to have T1 and can occasionally be good later, but I was also happy to discard later copies of it to create rat tokens. The Shadow Alley Denizen is surprisingly powerful in this deck: when you populate, or create a token with Pack Rat, your biggest creature becomes unblockable 90% of the time. You'd sideboard it out for Gift of Orzhova or Ogre Slumlord if you're playing another deck full of black creatures or artifact creatures.
Other cards that have been in the deck at one point or another include:
it started more discard themed than anything else but pack rat goes so well with later game dead discard spells that i leaned more towards the rats. one card that has been a house for me is underworld connections. refilling your hand for more removal, or just to pitch to the rats is always good.
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Any help would be appreciated!
I built my token deck so that all it makes are Centaur tokens and it still does just fine. Granted, I larded the deck with a lot of cheap lifegain spells, but I like undoing the work of my opponents with a single spell.
Enchantments:
Token producing spells:
- Gather the Townsfolk
- Midnight Haunting
- Lingering Souls
- Selesya Charm
- Call of the Conclave
- Advent of the Wurm
(slightly expensive, but if you get more money down the line you definitely need to grab a set for the deck)Token producing creatures:
Other cards to consider:
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I'm not sure what the rat decks play, but I imagine Pack Rats and pretty much every cheap costed rat in standard. Maybe Ogre Slumlord. Definitely disruption and removal in the form of Victim of Night, Murder, Tragic Slip, Duress, Appetite for Brains, etc.
Precinct Captain
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Intangible Virtue
Rancor
Lingering Souls
Call of the Conclave
Parallel Lives
There are plenty of things here to upgrade/work with... could toss in a Crusader of Odric or three to get big bodies out early... but I've been messing around with a couple different lists running these cards, and putting a Rancor on your Precinct Captain is insanely good early game... then, of course, you can just start throwing down Intangible Virtue at every opportunity.
It's insanely good to cast a Lingering Souls and get two 3/3 fliers with vigilance that can keep on beating in the air.
UWGbant flashGWU
UBdimir mill-controlBU
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i love the idea for the white splash into rootborn and i hadnt even seen shadow alley denizen before.
here is my rat deck that i am running.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=519440&highlight=rats+on+rats+on+rats
it started more discard themed than anything else but pack rat goes so well with later game dead discard spells that i leaned more towards the rats. one card that has been a house for me is underworld connections. refilling your hand for more removal, or just to pitch to the rats is always good.