Originally Posted by Massive Marc
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
In all seriousness, I think four Talrand might be a bit much only because your going to be sitting on your counters, removal and maybe even charms. Not enough pro-active instant/sorcery's to exploit him.
I am going to sideboard the pillars and go with spearing spears.
I personally like Rakdos's Return over Bonfire because of the hand advantage, and the burn is obviously nice too (although, not the entirety of why I'm playing it). I was considering Rakdos Keyrune because it is so good, and it really helps with Thragtusk, but Pillar is so good right now, and the 3 CMC cast and then the 2 CMC to actually play him when I could use stuff to directly counter and what not is debatable. It's a card I am thinking about though.
Oh, and Mortars is also nice, but I decided to not tech that in and put in Liliana as a side option, as well as Jace. There are other things I would take out for Mortars though if you have specific suggestions. I'm torn between multiple options though.
Less talrand the sky summoner bc he is legendary. Some kind or board sweeper to deal with hexproof creatures like geist so mizzium mortars. bonfire of the dammed. or rolling tembor or instead of sweepers force sacs with tribute to hunger. and barter in blood
Less talrand the sky summoner bc he is legendary. Some kind or board sweeper to deal with hexproof creatures like geist so mizzium mortars. bonfire of the dammed. or rolling tembor or instead of sweepers force sacs with tribute to hunger. and barter in blood
Actually decided to replace all my Pillar of Flame's with Mizzium Mortars.
Eh. Shimian Specter might be OK in Limited, but Standard runs too much removal, and a drop 4 with a 2/2 base that's not an ETB or provides field control, on top of its requirements is eh. I would run it since I have enough removal, but I don't regard it as better than Olivia, who gets rid of tokens, steals monsters, ect, or Talrand, which is a win condition for me.
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4 Augur of Bolas
4 Olivia Voldaren
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Talrand, Sky Summoner
Instant
3 Dissipate
4 Forbidden Alchemy
4 Izzet Charm
3 Think Twice
2 Ultimate Price
Sorcery
3 Dreadbore
3 Mizzium Mortars
2 Rakdos's Return
2 Blood Crypt
2 Dragonskull Summit
3 Drowned Catacomb
4 Sulfur Falls
1 Steam Vents
2 Island
3 Mountain
3 Swamp
3 Ash Zealot
3 Vampire Nighthawk
1 Liliana of the Veil
3 Essence Scatter
3 Slaughter Games
2 Sever the Bloodline
Basis of the deck is to have constant outs to Creatures, good hand advantage with Think Twice, Augur of Bolas, and Forbidden Alchemy, and have Talrand, Sky Summoner put down a lot of tokens because of the large amount of Instants and Sorcery's.
Here's a demo of what the deck can do. Not going to put every game I've had with this deck against the T1 decks, but most of the match-ups have been turning out like this, more or less. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv6qu0_grixis-control-vs-bant-control_videogames#.UKkIsIbk2Sr
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
In all seriousness, I think four Talrand might be a bit much only because your going to be sitting on your counters, removal and maybe even charms. Not enough pro-active instant/sorcery's to exploit him.
In my opinion.
rackdos Keyrune is very powerful.
I am going to sideboard the pillars and go with spearing spears.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
I personally like Rakdos's Return over Bonfire because of the hand advantage, and the burn is obviously nice too (although, not the entirety of why I'm playing it). I was considering Rakdos Keyrune because it is so good, and it really helps with Thragtusk, but Pillar is so good right now, and the 3 CMC cast and then the 2 CMC to actually play him when I could use stuff to directly counter and what not is debatable. It's a card I am thinking about though.
Oh, and Mortars is also nice, but I decided to not tech that in and put in Liliana as a side option, as well as Jace. There are other things I would take out for Mortars though if you have specific suggestions. I'm torn between multiple options though.
Actually decided to replace all my Pillar of Flame's with Mizzium Mortars.