Simple and to the point. Been looking at a lot of Frites list and almost all play this as a 4 of.
Is this card a must 4 of for this deck to be competitive. I only own 1 with 1 on order. If I need 2 more, I want to know now. I've tested without this card on Deckbuilder and it performs very well even without it.
How much better is this deck with it and is it a must 4 of?
Absolutely a powerhouse, but it can make you succeptible to Slaughter Games if its in your meta. However, it aids in graveyard recursion, doubles as removal and it's strapped to an evasive beatstick. I'm running 3 with 2 Griselbrand, but 4 would not be a mistake. My rule of thumb is:
4: want to see evey game in opening hand
3: want to see frequently, often mid to late game.
2: want to have the option of, wont always see, but won't be sad to not see
1: see once in a while. Not unhappy to draw late game. Don't want in opening hand.
Legendary creatures and planeswalkers skew this a bit, running 3 at most unless its a primary wincon or you need to win the battle (Geist of Saint Traft or liliana of the veil for example)
Angel of Serenity is weird on this scale. You don't want it opening hand unless you have a discard outlet, but you want to win the angel war. If your opponent is rocking Angel's, you want to be able to tuck them under yours. You don't want to be in a position where your opponent has 4 Angels cycling, whereas you only have 3.
Standard Mardu Midrange Modern 4 Colour Delver, Naya Midrange CommanderSidisi 1v1, Sliver Overlord, Intet the Dreamer, Mayael the Anima (shameless plug http://youtu.be/4zu4QRvGSo8)
Alright, so lets say your commander is Riku of Two Reflections. Combo commander, to be sure, but lets push this into the realm of absurd. You cast Palinchron and do your Riku thing to make infinite mana because we're going to need it. Forget about your extra Palinchron tokens. A million flying 4/5s is boring. So now you cast Enter the Infinite, because drawing your deck is important. Follow it up with a Obstinate Familiar because not decking yourself is equally important. Laboratory Maniac could work here too, but we're gonna go some more levels deep. Cast a Greater Good because we want a tasteful sac outlet. Follow this up with Parallel Lives, Doubling Season,Copy Enchantment, Clever Impersonator, Mycosynth Latice, Phyrexian Metamorph, and Copy Artifact giving you 6 double token effects. Here's where it gets fun now. Cast a Reef Worm. Sac it to greater good and get 256 Fish, which you sac to get 65,536 whales, which you sac to get 16,777,216 Krakens. Are we done yet? Nope! Cast Thromok the Insatiable, devouring all your krakens to make a 281,474,976,710,656/281,474,976,710,656 Thromok. Where do we go from here though? Let your opponent cast Death Mutation on him! Why, that's 7.20575940x10^16 tokens! Good thing we have Body Double to make another Thromok the Insatiable who will be a 5.19229686x10^33/5.19229686x10^33! Seems big enough, but not for us! Since we're red anyways, lets cast a Furnace of Rath, Dictate of the Twin Gods, and a Fire Servant! Now it's time to Fling your guy, dealing a spicy 4.15383749x10^34 damage to your opponent. To put that in perspective, there are an estimated 3x10^23 stars in the known universe. You dealt more damage than there are stars. That'll give your opponent something to think about. PROTIP: Dodge Spellskite decks
It's the best card in the deck. The main thing is does is make you less vulnerable to hate. You can get cards back from the 'yard if they Grafdiggers Gage and you can recur creatures if they Slaughter Gamesunburial rights. Just a great card. Now, they can Slaughter GamesAngel of Serenity as well, but that's a lot of hate and you should still have Thragtusks and other beaters left over anyway.
Absolute 4 of, in my opinion. Not to mention that it's basically a sweeper against aggro decks.
Keirmageddon, if you don't have a discard outlet, how are playing Frights?
It's the best card in the deck. The main thing is does is make you less vulnerable to hate. You can get cards back from the 'yard if they Grafdiggers Gage and you can recur creatures if they Slaughter Gamesunburial rights. Just a great card. Now, they can Slaughter GamesAngel of Serenity as well, but that's a lot of hate and you should still have Thragtusks and other beaters left over anyway.
Absolute 4 of, in my opinion. Not to mention that it's basically a sweeper against aggro decks.
Keirmageddon, if you don't have a discard outlet, how are playing Frights?
You can play frites without a solid discard outlet. Grisly Salvage and Mulch will still chuck **** into your yard, and a 4 of for each is pretty mandatory. You can have the frites archetype playing those two and not running lotleth troll, faithless looting or liliana, but ideally you'd have them. Just saying frites sans discard is possible.
Standard Mardu Midrange Modern 4 Colour Delver, Naya Midrange CommanderSidisi 1v1, Sliver Overlord, Intet the Dreamer, Mayael the Anima (shameless plug http://youtu.be/4zu4QRvGSo8)
Alright, so lets say your commander is Riku of Two Reflections. Combo commander, to be sure, but lets push this into the realm of absurd. You cast Palinchron and do your Riku thing to make infinite mana because we're going to need it. Forget about your extra Palinchron tokens. A million flying 4/5s is boring. So now you cast Enter the Infinite, because drawing your deck is important. Follow it up with a Obstinate Familiar because not decking yourself is equally important. Laboratory Maniac could work here too, but we're gonna go some more levels deep. Cast a Greater Good because we want a tasteful sac outlet. Follow this up with Parallel Lives, Doubling Season,Copy Enchantment, Clever Impersonator, Mycosynth Latice, Phyrexian Metamorph, and Copy Artifact giving you 6 double token effects. Here's where it gets fun now. Cast a Reef Worm. Sac it to greater good and get 256 Fish, which you sac to get 65,536 whales, which you sac to get 16,777,216 Krakens. Are we done yet? Nope! Cast Thromok the Insatiable, devouring all your krakens to make a 281,474,976,710,656/281,474,976,710,656 Thromok. Where do we go from here though? Let your opponent cast Death Mutation on him! Why, that's 7.20575940x10^16 tokens! Good thing we have Body Double to make another Thromok the Insatiable who will be a 5.19229686x10^33/5.19229686x10^33! Seems big enough, but not for us! Since we're red anyways, lets cast a Furnace of Rath, Dictate of the Twin Gods, and a Fire Servant! Now it's time to Fling your guy, dealing a spicy 4.15383749x10^34 damage to your opponent. To put that in perspective, there are an estimated 3x10^23 stars in the known universe. You dealt more damage than there are stars. That'll give your opponent something to think about. PROTIP: Dodge Spellskite decks
If you are playing a version of frites without Loleth troll or faithless looting, 3 is probably passable, but I would probably still want four as that version of the deck probably has mana dorks to power her out ahead of curve.
She is arguably the decks best removal spell + a card advantage engine.
I could see a case for running 3, but personally I think that that is a mistake. I've never had an issue running 4, and think it's the optimal number. As has been said, it makes it hurt a bit more if it is the target of Slaughter Games, but its power level in the deck is just too high to ignore.
I've been running this type of deck since back when we were allowed to use Elesh Norn and when I built my first version with RtR I only played 2 Angel of Serenity
After 1 tournament with that deck I quickly picked up 2 more copies and never looked back it was unquestionably the best reanimation target out there
Just cracked my third Angel and immediately threw her in my deck - and I'll do it again if I crack a fourth (please god, please god...).
AoS is crazy good, can single-handedly swing a game completely around. Ideally nabbing a couple guys on their side and one thing out of your own graveyard to replay should she die. Very versatile though, and I've never been sorry to draw her or reanimate her.
Especially fun to keep Lotleth Troll alive by pitching her and then immediately reanimating her.
Just cracked my third Angel and immediately threw her in my deck - and I'll do it again if I crack a fourth (please god, please god...).
AoS is crazy good, can single-handedly swing a game completely around. Ideally nabbing a couple guys on their side and one thing out of your own graveyard to replay should she die. Very versatile though, and I've never been sorry to draw her or reanimate her.
Especially fun to keep Lotleth Troll alive by pitching her and then immediately reanimating her.
If by cracking packs you mean drafting... And if not.. WHY?! Just buy your forth immediately and make your deck better haha
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Cracking Booster Packs is negative value... It's like arguing that buying lottery tickets is an investment because you win once in awhile. Magic is not as expensive as it seems if you're smart with your money.
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You can play frites without a solid discard outlet. Grisly Salvage and Mulch will still chuck **** into your yard, and a 4 of for each is pretty mandatory. You can have the frites archetype playing those two and not running lotleth troll, faithless looting or liliana, but ideally you'd have them. Just saying frites sans discard is possible.
I'm actually running Pack Rat as a budget discard outlet.
Is this card a must 4 of for this deck to be competitive. I only own 1 with 1 on order. If I need 2 more, I want to know now. I've tested without this card on Deckbuilder and it performs very well even without it.
How much better is this deck with it and is it a must 4 of?
Thanks.
Angel of Serenity
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4: want to see evey game in opening hand
3: want to see frequently, often mid to late game.
2: want to have the option of, wont always see, but won't be sad to not see
1: see once in a while. Not unhappy to draw late game. Don't want in opening hand.
Legendary creatures and planeswalkers skew this a bit, running 3 at most unless its a primary wincon or you need to win the battle (Geist of Saint Traft or liliana of the veil for example)
Angel of Serenity is weird on this scale. You don't want it opening hand unless you have a discard outlet, but you want to win the angel war. If your opponent is rocking Angel's, you want to be able to tuck them under yours. You don't want to be in a position where your opponent has 4 Angels cycling, whereas you only have 3.
Standard Mardu Midrange
Modern 4 Colour Delver, Naya Midrange
CommanderSidisi 1v1, Sliver Overlord, Intet the Dreamer, Mayael the Anima (shameless plug http://youtu.be/4zu4QRvGSo8)
Absolute 4 of, in my opinion. Not to mention that it's basically a sweeper against aggro decks.
Keirmageddon, if you don't have a discard outlet, how are playing Frights?
You can play frites without a solid discard outlet. Grisly Salvage and Mulch will still chuck **** into your yard, and a 4 of for each is pretty mandatory. You can have the frites archetype playing those two and not running lotleth troll, faithless looting or liliana, but ideally you'd have them. Just saying frites sans discard is possible.
Standard Mardu Midrange
Modern 4 Colour Delver, Naya Midrange
CommanderSidisi 1v1, Sliver Overlord, Intet the Dreamer, Mayael the Anima (shameless plug http://youtu.be/4zu4QRvGSo8)
She is arguably the decks best removal spell + a card advantage engine.
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After 1 tournament with that deck I quickly picked up 2 more copies and never looked back it was unquestionably the best reanimation target out there
you can do it turn 3 if you're playing mana dorks
AoS is crazy good, can single-handedly swing a game completely around. Ideally nabbing a couple guys on their side and one thing out of your own graveyard to replay should she die. Very versatile though, and I've never been sorry to draw her or reanimate her.
Especially fun to keep Lotleth Troll alive by pitching her and then immediately reanimating her.
If by cracking packs you mean drafting... And if not.. WHY?! Just buy your forth immediately and make your deck better haha
Cracking Booster Packs is negative value... It's like arguing that buying lottery tickets is an investment because you win once in awhile. Magic is not as expensive as it seems if you're smart with your money.
I'm actually running Pack Rat as a budget discard outlet.
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