I keep feeling like a populate mechanic here or there could be thrown in so long as it had a second really good usage. Something like the fog that can populate. Also since we are going W/G splash black (assuming) then it would be easy to add in 2-3 Armanda Wurm which is just an insanely good card. Thragtusk seems like an auto include as well as he also generates a token and lifegain is relevant.
it seems to be working pretty awesomely for me so far. at second glance, garruk relentless is awesome. but his 2 - abilities are worthless. basically, unless you want death touch wolves, never flip him, his 2/2 wolves are good. deathtouch however makes people hesitate.
hmm.. sideboard for sure, maybe 2 main? i like the idea of wiping, but still having a handfull of planeswalkers on the board. actually, that would probably equal a win in most cases. test 2-3?
also, maybe switch up the thread name to reflect the reformed concept? [Developing] Token Walkers? League of Legends? lol, im drawing a blank on superhero group names
EDIT: Thinking -1 Rancor and -1 Ajani for +2 Terminus, with 1 in Sideboard.
Ajani is good, but doesn't add as much to the token strategy is what i'm seeing.
My issue is how do you get to a Vraska ultimate? Opponents creatures are going to be gunning for him. I'd either build around Mutilate or Terminus with him. You need lots of removal in order to ensure Vraska gets pumped up.
yeah i think terminus. vraska is the main wincon, but now there is a ton of chump blockers to protect her, and faith's shield too
the more i solo, the sweeter the interactions im discovering. that's the beauty in my mind, with 2-4 planeswalkers in play, opponents are going to have a hard time. focus on one and another ultimates.
My issue is how do you get to a Vraska ultimate? Opponents creatures are going to be gunning for him. I'd either build around Mutilate or Terminus with him. You need lots of removal in order to ensure Vraska gets pumped up.
The beauty of Vraska is that If it comes down to it, she's a killspell even with her +1. That's not that bad considering we have so many walkers.
But yea, I'll be adding Terminus to ensure her survival if i'm riding on her ultimate.
Personally I prefer BUG. With bug you get access to Tamiyo and jace 4.0 in addition to cards like Cyclonic rift, snapcaster, forbidden alchemy, and a card that is amazing with vraska, Artful dodge. Additionally you can use the new sleep varient also help your tokens through.
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I think Avacyn's Pilgrim is weak here in comparison to Chromatic Lantern, because it gives merit to opponents removal, is killed by our own Terminus, and this deck doesn't really on early threats, moreso Turn 4-5 threats.
I also don't like 4 Faith's Shield.
I can envision times when 2-3 are stuck in your hand and you have no threats.
Same goes for Ajani, if you get 2-3 of him and no other PW, then he is worthless.
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It was originally posted as a G/B Vraska Unblockable deck, but that was too unreliable.
Now we are perfecting a G/B/W Walker Token deck. Using PW's including Liliana of the veil,
Sorin, Lord of innistrad,Garruk Relentless, and Vraska the Unseen to win us the game.
Sample Decklist:
4x Isolated Chapel
4x Overgrown Tomb
4x Woodland Cemetery
4x Temple Garden
2x Vault of the Archangel
1x Plains
2x Sunpetal Grove
1x Swamp
4x Garruk Relentless
3x Liliana of the Veil
4x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
4x Vraska the Unseen
Enchantments(4)
4x Intangible Virtue
2x Oblivion Ring
2x Chromatic Lantern
Instants(6)
4x Faith's Shield
Sorceries(11)
4x Lingering Souls
1x Entreat the Angels
2x Terminus
4x Farseek
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edit, disregard elspeth...
I would totally support that deck. Though Elspeth is no longer legal.
but a token spewing walker linup would be
I keep feeling like a populate mechanic here or there could be thrown in so long as it had a second really good usage. Something like the fog that can populate. Also since we are going W/G splash black (assuming) then it would be easy to add in 2-3 Armanda Wurm which is just an insanely good card. Thragtusk seems like an auto include as well as he also generates a token and lifegain is relevant.
Also never thought about faith's shield. That's one of the surest ways to get the kiddies to the pool.
This deck could get interesting, depending on the route it takes.
4 Vraska the Unseen
4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
4 Garruk Relentless // Garruk, the Veil-Cursed
2 Garruk, Primal Hunter
4 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
Spells
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Rancor
4 Farseek
4 Faith's Shield
4 Temple Garden
4 Overgrown Tomb
1 Sunpetal Grove
4 Isolated Chapel
1 Swamp
4 Forest
4 Plains
this is my first draft. just stuff thrown in a bag and shook up. havent even solitaired it yet
{edit} just realized that garruk relentless having sorin's lifelink vampire fight him makes you gain life lol. pretty coo
A walker tokens deck. now that's an idea.
Time to brew.
And in my tests it's working better than expected, even without moving around the numbers.
We might want to mainboard some O-rings, if only to kill the opponent's O-Rings.
omg! reread faith's sheild.... TARGET PERMANENT ! protect your walkers too!
Mother of god.......
Also, What do you think of Terminus?
also, maybe switch up the thread name to reflect the reformed concept? [Developing] Token Walkers? League of Legends? lol, im drawing a blank on superhero group names
Good plan. I'll get on that.
EDIT: Thinking -1 Rancor and -1 Ajani for +2 Terminus, with 1 in Sideboard.
Ajani is good, but doesn't add as much to the token strategy is what i'm seeing.
My list would start with
4x Vraska
4x Farseek
4x Mutilate
2-4x Abrupt Decay
and go from there.
Now in a Junk, token build, 4x Lingering Souls seems mandatory.
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the more i solo, the sweeter the interactions im discovering. that's the beauty in my mind, with 2-4 planeswalkers in play, opponents are going to have a hard time. focus on one and another ultimates.
The beauty of Vraska is that If it comes down to it, she's a killspell even with her +1. That's not that bad considering we have so many walkers.
But yea, I'll be adding Terminus to ensure her survival if i'm riding on her ultimate.
4 Temple Garden
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Wooded Cemetary
3 Isolated Chapel
2 Sunpetal Grove
2 Vault of the Archangel
2 Rogue's Passage
1 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Forest
Planeswalkers: 11
2 Liliana of the Veil
2 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
3 Garruk Relentless
4 Vraska the Unseen
2 Thragtusk
Enchantments/Artifact: 10
4 Intangible Virtue
2 Oblivion Ring
2 Underworld Connections
2 Chromatic Lantern
Instant/Sorcery: 13
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Farseek
4 Lingering Souls
2 Terminus
1 Entreat the Angels
3 Duress
3 Rest in Peace
3 Sundering Growth
1 Oblivion Ring
2 Thragtusk
2 Terminus
1 Entreat the Angels
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Could use the spots from dropping rancor to add more Abrupt Decay and Faith's Shields.
I would think this could be a home for Chromatic Lantern?
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4 Vraska the Unseen
4 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
4 Garruk Relentless // Garruk, the Veil-Cursed
4 Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Spells
4 Intangible Virtue
3 Farseek
4 Faith's Shield
2 Terminus
4 Lingering Souls
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
Lands
4 Forest
4 Plains
4 Temple Garden
4 Overgrown Tomb
1 Sunpetal Grove
4 Isolated Chapel
2 Swamp
i like the lingering souls thought. here's my 2nd draft! btw, ive never known what junk means, mind explaining please?
i do like blue, but- at least in my opinion- vraska to me is a great way to win, but im not focusing on her
Good points. Updated my list to reflect these.
I think Avacyn's Pilgrim is weak here in comparison to Chromatic Lantern, because it gives merit to opponents removal, is killed by our own Terminus, and this deck doesn't really on early threats, moreso Turn 4-5 threats.
I also don't like 4 Faith's Shield.
I can envision times when 2-3 are stuck in your hand and you have no threats.
Same goes for Ajani, if you get 2-3 of him and no other PW, then he is worthless.
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Chromatic Lantern is a good plan all around. It'll probably find a spot.
I agree with Rancor being a bit iffy.
Checkout my updated list, it seems to be getting there.
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Protects them for one turn? I'm not sure how valuable that card is. I think Maybe adding more sweepers/removal is just more valuable.
For example:
You play PW
Opponent plays creature.
Next turn they attack PW and you faith's shield walker.
Next turn they attack PW and kill it
or
You play PW
Opponent plays creature
You remove creature (Abrupt Decay, Oblivion Ring, etc) Don't have to worry about it for future turns.
I'm sure both strategies need to be tested, let me know how the 4x Faith's Shield goes.
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