UW Delver post RTR

  • #1
    UW delver can be close to gone in RTR with more uncounterable spells and a 1drop hate against snapcaster mage its really hard to go to UW. But still im gona try my luck ive been a UW delver player for 4 months and its very good to play here is the list im going to try to run post RTR.

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    Uw delver players, should we go UR, URW or just go with the midrange game?
    Current decks

    BR Zombies 28-12-2
    RWB Tokens 11-1-0

    Currently Brewing:
    Naya Agro

    Retired Standards

    GW Humans 40-18-6
    GBUW Tokens 21-9-5
    GW Agro 13-10-1
    UR Delver 4-2-2
    Mono White Humans 12-4-4
  • #2
    For what it's worth, I'm not a Delver player. But this is a terrible idea. Delver itself still has game for sure. But you're losing everything that makes the current Delver build work.

    Index doesn't stand in for Ponder at all. Gix Probe is out as is Gut Shot. Just...nothing about this deck functions the way it needs to after rotation. The current delver list is a finely balanced machine that really only works with all its parts. Even then, it needs a metagame without any new cards that are capable of increasing everyone else's ability to play against it.

    Playtest your new list maybe. But I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than a failure. Sorry to be a downer.
  • #3
    I think RU Delver seems to be the way to go, or RWU if you really want to abuse Traft.

    Delver is still a superior threat for its mana efficiency, so early game it will still be ahead. It just wont hold up in the long run without its tempo cards and all the hate on snapcaster. The loss of ponder also means your consistency went off the cliff.

    RTR however has the izzet guild that is devoted to instants and sorceries with a decent keyword to go with it. Just hope that it brings enough goodies (like the charm) for Snappy to work with, so you can make a decent aggro/burn deck.

    Traft probably belongs more in bant lists after rotation, where there are more tools to get him through and make him live.
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  • #4
    There aren't nearly enough decent instants/sorceries to stay in UW. Even branching into R is still suspect. You lost all of the non-creature spells that made the deck what it was, it's not ever going to be the same. Unsummon is not Vapor Snag, no matter how many people tell you it is. That's 3-4 life over the course of the game that you can't get anywhere else. That's how delver was always "ahead"...it was playing a turn fewer than everyone else.
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  • #5
    maybe i should just go american midrange?
    Current decks

    BR Zombies 28-12-2
    RWB Tokens 11-1-0

    Currently Brewing:
    Naya Agro

    Retired Standards

    GW Humans 40-18-6
    GBUW Tokens 21-9-5
    GW Agro 13-10-1
    UR Delver 4-2-2
    Mono White Humans 12-4-4
  • #6
    What do you guys think of making a more mid range tempo build for the current rotation?

    We have Azorious charm, Peel from reality, and crippling chill to use which could provide decent tempo combined with snap/detain. Peel from reality can be pretty brutal when combined with the Detain creatures to provide a serious lead.

    It's either Detain route or a burn route it seems for now, until more gets spoiled.
  • #7
    It's hard to say where Delver should go now. In UW build are superior creatures but no real instant/sorceries. In UR build there is some burn but creatures are just bad. I think UW should go into midrange player and UR should try to stay the way it was. Maybe after Gatecrash we will get more for URW build with Boros guild.
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