UW delver can be close to gone in RTR with more uncounterable spells and a 1drop hate against snapcaster mage its really hard to go to UW. But still im gona try my luck ive been a UW delver player for 4 months and its very good to play here is the list im going to try to run post RTR.
For what it's worth, I'm not a Delver player. But this is a terrible idea. Delver itself still has game for sure. But you're losing everything that makes the current Delver build work.
Index doesn't stand in for Ponder at all. Gix Probe is out as is Gut Shot. Just...nothing about this deck functions the way it needs to after rotation. The current delver list is a finely balanced machine that really only works with all its parts. Even then, it needs a metagame without any new cards that are capable of increasing everyone else's ability to play against it.
Playtest your new list maybe. But I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than a failure. Sorry to be a downer.
There aren't nearly enough decent instants/sorceries to stay in UW. Even branching into R is still suspect. You lost all of the non-creature spells that made the deck what it was, it's not ever going to be the same. Unsummon is not Vapor Snag, no matter how many people tell you it is. That's 3-4 life over the course of the game that you can't get anywhere else. That's how delver was always "ahead"...it was playing a turn fewer than everyone else.
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Standard:
Bident Layers B Devotion RG Devotion UW Control Modern:
Jund
UW Control
Combo Pod Legacy: DeathBlade RUG Delver BUG Control
What do you guys think of making a more mid range tempo build for the current rotation?
We have Azorious charm, Peel from reality, and crippling chill to use which could provide decent tempo combined with snap/detain. Peel from reality can be pretty brutal when combined with the Detain creatures to provide a serious lead.
It's either Detain route or a burn route it seems for now, until more gets spoiled.
Uw delver players, should we go UR, URW or just go with the midrange game?
BR Zombies 28-12-2
RWB Tokens 11-1-0
Currently Brewing:
Naya Agro
Retired Standards
GW Humans 40-18-6
GBUW Tokens 21-9-5
GW Agro 13-10-1
UR Delver 4-2-2
Mono White Humans 12-4-4
Index doesn't stand in for Ponder at all. Gix Probe is out as is Gut Shot. Just...nothing about this deck functions the way it needs to after rotation. The current delver list is a finely balanced machine that really only works with all its parts. Even then, it needs a metagame without any new cards that are capable of increasing everyone else's ability to play against it.
Playtest your new list maybe. But I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than a failure. Sorry to be a downer.
Bident Layers
B Devotion
RG Devotion
UW Control
Modern:
Jund
UW Control
Combo Pod
Legacy:
DeathBlade
RUG Delver
BUG Control
BR Zombies 28-12-2
RWB Tokens 11-1-0
Currently Brewing:
Naya Agro
Retired Standards
GW Humans 40-18-6
GBUW Tokens 21-9-5
GW Agro 13-10-1
UR Delver 4-2-2
Mono White Humans 12-4-4
We have Azorious charm, Peel from reality, and crippling chill to use which could provide decent tempo combined with snap/detain. Peel from reality can be pretty brutal when combined with the Detain creatures to provide a serious lead.
It's either Detain route or a burn route it seems for now, until more gets spoiled.